"The President [doesn't care about] black people." (ed. title)

I think we all learned a long time ago, Bush doesn’t care about peoples opinions and perceptions. He does what he wants, and if others don’t like it, too bad.

The flood in NO is a NATURAL DISASTER and was uncontrolled by the government. People elected to stay there in their homes and now they need to play the hand that was dealt to them and get out.

Bush does not hate or dislike the black community. As seen in many different areas and situations you can’t please everyone all the time, just a few some of the time. No one gets his/her way all the time and most white communities have learned to adjust to this; however, the black communities continue to say that they are being left behind or mistreated using any event to paint pictures that the government hates them because they are black and the truth is they just could not get what they wanted. Well wake up neither do the white, Asian, Latino nor any other ethnic group get its way 100% off the time. It is a sad state when people are missing or dead and the black communities attempt to place blame even though they were warned about what might happen. People chose to live there; the government did not forced people to live there.

“Natural disaster, natural disaster!” Right out of the White House songbook.

Blaming “nature” an inadequate defense in a number of ways. For one thing, the problem wasn’t so much the hrricane but the levee break and the levee break was a human failure, not a natural one. Moreover, it disingenuously evades the issue that the levee break was predicted far in advance and provides no excuse for the lack of advance planning, the obscene incompetence of “Brownie” in running FEMA or the seeming indifference of the federal government in providing any sort of relief or guidance to the victims left in the city.

Most of those people did not “elect” to stay there. They were the city’s poorest and most vulnerable people who had no ABILITY to leave the city. Is it really possible that you haven’t been informed of that yet?

The people had no CHOICE but to stay there. And what’s wrong with placing blame where blame is due? It’s called ACCOUNTABILITY.

Really? A hell of a lot of candidates have addressed that organization, including a lot of Republicans, but how hostile have they ever been?

All he might have accomplished would have been to show that he intended to be President of ALL the United States, every one of us. That he embraced rather than separated himself from a large sector of our society.

As for your opinion of the NAACP, where the hell does that load of bile come from? Do you know anything about it or its history or its views or its historical importance?

More likely that’s of a piece with his handlers’, or his own, huge reluctance to face *any * audience in *any * situation that hasn’t already been prescreened for loyalty or at least reliable support of the GOP agenda. We saw that throughout his last campaign and we continue to see it in his limiting his public appearances almost exclusively to military audiences. It isn’t courage at all, it’s cowardice.

Sure. He had the choice every other candidate has always had, and almost always taken, without negative consequences either. But it’s cost him, oh yes, it’s cost him, and it’s cost his party a generation’s worth of progress as well.

Yep. He firmly announced to white America that they had nothing to fear from having their (future) president actually paying attention to those other people.

How many years have the people of Big Easy known that the levees were rated for a category III hurricane only? If people insist on pointing a finger and placing blame on someone or some entity, it should be the mayor. :smack: Dhuuuu!

Yes, he should have stamped his foot until the Army Corp of Engineers spent $100 million dollars to upgrade the levees. They hate when you stamp your foot.

Or, have an evacuation plan that includes using the hundreds of school buses and other public transportation he left unused. Oh wait, he HAD a plan that said that, only he didn’t follow it.

Then what’s this?

I’m curious about how this hostility might have arisen prior to his decision to shun them.

Sorry, rjung, I don’t consider warehousing poor people in the Superdome with inadequate supplies and no officials in charge and no police for protection to be the same as evacuating the city. I think Bush bears blame for putting unqualified cronies in charge of FEMA, gutting the department of FEMA intended to set preparation for these disasters, and allowing the CoE project to rebuild the levees to be halted before the City border, but the decisions to wait until the last minute to make the evacuation mandatory, to not send police out to enforce the evacuation, and to call a Titanic-deck-chair-shuffling action inside the city an evacuation lies squarely in the lap of the mayor.

Not to mention anything about the later evacuation to the Astrodome. Y’know the Astrodome had those cots and supplies, a plan and the means for housing people for five years.

They have this town called Galveston, see. Which they figured might get hit by a hurricane so that it was only prudent to lay in some supplies and have a plan.


As for the OP. I agree. Bush doesn’t care about black people. For that matter, I don’t care about black people either.

I personally think most of us don’t frame things in terms of race, unless somebody does it for us. I don’t think in terms of race too often. It’s just not particularly important or useful.

In the world I live in, the people who make a big deal about race are almost always activists. Coming from privilege, I doubt ole Dubya spends his days worrying about race.

Framing this in terms of race, or making a racial issue of it, is IMO disgusting, fallacious and useless.

I hope and think Bush doesn’t care about black people. It’s a bad way to look at things. I simply hope he cares about people.

NAACP = All black people?

Nope. Why do you ask?

Well it appears it existed both before:

And after:

I think it’s pretty amazing that Bond has the gall to criticize someone for playing the race card.

Ring, talking about the NAACP says:

To which you reply

It sounds like you’re saying that snubbing the NAACP is the same thing as snubbing black people as a whole.

It’s not black people Dubya doesn’t care about, it’s poor people.

I don’t usually give a second thought to wheelchair access. Are the aisles too narrow? Are there ramps? Can you turn around? Can the items/buttons I may need be reached while I’m sitting?
Which doesn’t mean those aren’t important or useful considerations, I just don’t have to think about them.

Some people in the country are lucky enough not to have frame things in terms of race very often, if at all. Some of us don’t get that choice.

Not snubbing blacks, specifically, or equating blacks to the NAACP, but showing his “strength” and “independence” to his core white constituency by ignoring any non-white ethnic advocacy group (while demonstrating the same “strength” by “bravely” showing solidarity with his religious brethren at the (until recently, unaccreditable and frequently racist) institution, Bob Jones U.).

OK, I think I get what you’re saying.