# The President Elimination Game **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [September 24, 2009, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-president-elimination-game/511317 "2009-09-24T01:36:57Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 10
**Author:** ![Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/f04885/32.png) [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qin_Shi_Huangdi)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2009, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-president-elimination-game/511317/181 "2009-10-11T02:15:51Z")
> [@amarone](#): > > Are we allowed to change our vote if the final tally has not been taken? If so, I will drop Jackson and replace with Carter. Yes you may. ---
**Author:** ![ToeJam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/dfb087/32.png) [@ToeJam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ToeJam)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2009, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-president-elimination-game/511317/182 "2009-10-11T02:23:38Z")
So we’re still stuck with a need for 2 more voters? How long do we wait? ---
**Author:** ![Cullain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/d26b3c/32.png) [@Cullain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cullain)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2009, 5:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-president-elimination-game/511317/183 "2009-10-11T05:55:40Z")
> [@Ro0sh](#): > > So we’re still stuck with a need for 2 more voters? > How long do we wait? I joined the forum just to move this along. I’ll vote Reagan, for now. ---
**Author:** ![CyclopticXander](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/59ef9b/32.png) [@CyclopticXander](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CyclopticXander)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2009, 6:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-president-elimination-game/511317/184 "2009-10-11T06:58:33Z")
I’m not so sure a minimum requirement is a good idea, we can’t really expect this to get 20 votes every time without waiting forever. just picks a number (like 20) and a time period ( like 5 days), and the round ends after either of those marks are reached. Does that sound ok? ---
**Author:** ![Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/d9b06d/32.png) [@Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boozahol_Squid_P.I)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2009, 9:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-president-elimination-game/511317/185 "2009-10-11T09:33:54Z")
> [@Cullain](#): > > I joined the forum just to move this along. I’ll vote Reagan, for now. Welcome aboard! Initiation starts in an hour. I hope you’re not allergic to latex gloves or goats. ---
**Author:** ![St.Anger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5daacb/32.png) [@St.Anger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/St.Anger)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2009, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-president-elimination-game/511317/186 "2009-10-11T18:57:46Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > Blaming Carter for the Iranian Revolution is like blaming Obama for the credit crunch. No, it’s not. Jimmy Carter pursued a foreign policy of supporting countries based on their human rights record and as a result withdrew total, committed support support for the Shah of Iran, which emboldened his enemies and triggered the events that lead to the Iranian Revolution. > [@](#): > > Plus, there are a dozen threads clearly explaining why military action was not an option in the hostage crisis (other than a furtive rescue mission, which was tried, and failed spectacularly). I suggest you read them. I wish I had all that free time. Let me ask one simple question: would the government of Iran allowed the US Embassy attacked and hostages held if Reagan were President? Don’t you think the Ayatollah and his cronies were emboldened by the fact that Carter was weak-kneed? (OK that was 2 questions! But there! :)) ---
**Author:** ![StusBlues](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dc4da7/32.png) [@StusBlues](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StusBlues)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2009, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-president-elimination-game/511317/187 "2009-10-12T17:58:20Z")
If we’re now allowed to change votes, I’ll change mine to Reagan. _ **YogSosoth** _ convinced me. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2009, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-president-elimination-game/511317/188 "2009-10-12T18:59:35Z")
My vote for Madison still stands. Let’s do this thang. ---
**Author:** ![ToeJam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/dfb087/32.png) [@ToeJam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ToeJam)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2009, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-president-elimination-game/511317/189 "2009-10-13T16:00:37Z")
I think we broke the game… ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2009, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-president-elimination-game/511317/190 "2009-10-13T16:05:32Z")
Heck with it. _I_ find the exercise interesting. St. Ronald Reagan, the greatest leader in the history of Western Civilization, has been ousted by a Communist plot. George Washington (None, 1789-1797) John Adams (Federalist, 1797-1801) Thomas Jefferson (Democratic-Republican, 1801-1809) James Madison (Democratic-Republican, 1809-1817) James Monroe (Democratic-Republican, 1817-1825) John Quincy Adams (Democratic-Republican, 1825-1829) Andrew Jackson (Democrat, 1829-1837) Martin Van Buren (Democrat, 1837-1841) John Tyler (Whig, 1841-1845) James Polk (Democrat, 1845-1849) Zachary Taylor (Whig, 1849-1850) Abraham Lincoln (Republican, 1861-1865) Ulysses Grant (Republican, 1869-1877) Rutherford Hayes (Republican, 1877-1881) Chester Arthur (Republican, 1881-1885) Grover Cleveland (Democrat, 1885-1889, 1893-1897) Benjamin Harrison (Republican, 1889-1893) William McKinley (Republican, 1897-1901) Theodore Roosevelt (Republican, 1901-1909) William Howard Taft (Republican, 1909-1913) Woodrow Wilson (Democrat, 1913-1921) Calvin Coolidge (Republican, 1923-1929) Franklin Delano Roosevelt (Democrat, 1933-1945) Henry Truman (Democrat, 1945-1953) Dwight Eisenhower (Republican, 1953-1961) John Fitzgerald Kennedy (Democrat, 1961-1963) Lyndon Baines Johnson (Democrat, 1963-1969) Gerald Ford (Republican, 1974-1977) James Earl Carter (Democrat, 1977-1981) George Herbert Walker Bush (Republican, 1989-1993) William Jefferson Clinton (Democrat, 1993-2001) Eliminated Presidents: 1. James Buchanan (Democrat, 1857-1861) 2. Franklin Pierce (Democrat, 1853-1857) 3. Andrew Johnson (National Union, 1865-1869) 4. Warren Harding (Republican, 1921-1923) 5. Milliard Filmore (Whig, 1850-1853) 6. Richard Milhous Nixon (Republican, 1969-1974) 7. Herbert Hoover (Republican, 1929-1933) 8. Ronald Reagan (Republican, 1981-1989) Back to Madison. International relations 101: find out who the most powerful country in the world is. Then don’t get into a war with them. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2009, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-president-elimination-game/511317/191 "2009-10-13T16:49:25Z")
Madison, enthusiastically seconded. ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2009, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-president-elimination-game/511317/192 "2009-10-13T16:52:24Z")
Oh, ground rules, since the coup: 20 votes or 5 days, whichever is sooner. I may or may not be around on Sunday at 11:05 AM; if someone else feels like doing the tally & posting the next ballot, feel free. Else, I’ll do it as soon as possible thereafter. ---
**Author:** ![Sternvogel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bc79bd/32.png) [@Sternvogel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sternvogel)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2009, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-president-elimination-game/511317/193 "2009-10-13T19:25:36Z")
Okay, since **notfrommensa** cast a vote for Arthur in the last round, I have some support. Let’s get Chester out of there! ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2009, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-president-elimination-game/511317/194 "2009-10-13T19:33:34Z")
Arthur pushed forward with civil-service reform after Garfield died, and started the modernization of the Navy. He had interesting facial hair. Even Mark Twain admitted he liked Arthur as President. Madison couldn’t keep enemy troops from burning the White House. 'Nuff said. ---
**Author:** ![ToeJam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/dfb087/32.png) [@ToeJam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ToeJam)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2009, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-president-elimination-game/511317/195 "2009-10-13T20:45:33Z")
I’m still not a fan of Lyndon Baines Johnson. ---
**Author:** ![YogSothoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/8edcca/32.png) [@YogSothoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YogSothoth)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2009, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-president-elimination-game/511317/196 "2009-10-13T20:51:14Z")
Andrew Jackson, for the whole Trail of Tears thing. I don’t care how manly or tough he allegedly was, this was a monumentally dickish thing to do, and borders on genocide. ---
**Author:** ![Thudlow\_Boink](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thudlow_boink/32/320_2.png) [@Thudlow\_Boink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thudlow_Boink)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2009, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-president-elimination-game/511317/197 "2009-10-13T20:57:05Z")
Okay, I’ll throw in for Jackson. ---
**Author:** ![StusBlues](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dc4da7/32.png) [@StusBlues](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StusBlues)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2009, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-president-elimination-game/511317/198 "2009-10-13T21:11:36Z")
Jackson was a rat bastard, and Madison certainly had an oops moment, but Rutherford B. Hayes sqandered a great opportunity for egalitarian democracy. He’s the Robert Mugabe of US History. Get him out of here. ---
**Author:** ![MsWhatsit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/eb8c5e/32.png) [@MsWhatsit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MsWhatsit)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2009, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-president-elimination-game/511317/199 "2009-10-13T21:45:27Z")
Hayes. Again! ---
**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2009, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-president-elimination-game/511317/200 "2009-10-13T22:35:13Z")
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