# The President Elimination Game

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-president-elimination-game/511317>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [September 24, 2009, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-president-elimination-game/511317 "2009-09-24T01:36:57Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 15

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**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2009, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-president-elimination-game/511317/281 "2009-10-24T16:14:17Z")

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Hiram Ulysses Grant, a great general who proved unequal to the presidency, is the 11th President eliminated. Abraham Lincoln now stands alone in a 30-year period bookending the Civil War.

George Washington (None, 1789-1797)  
John Adams (Federalist, 1797-1801)  
Thomas Jefferson (Democratic-Republican, 1801-1809)  
James Madison (Democratic-Republican, 1809-1817)  
James Monroe (Democratic-Republican, 1817-1825)  
John Quincy Adams (Democratic-Republican, 1825-1829)  
Martin Van Buren (Democrat, 1837-1841)  
John Tyler (Whig, 1841-1845)  
James Polk (Democrat, 1845-1849)  
Zachary Taylor (Whig, 1849-1850)  
Abraham Lincoln (Republican, 1861-1865)  
Chester Arthur (Republican, 1881-1885)  
Grover Cleveland (Democrat, 1885-1889, 1893-1897)  
Benjamin Harrison (Republican, 1889-1893)  
William McKinley (Republican, 1897-1901)  
Theodore Roosevelt (Republican, 1901-1909)  
William Howard Taft (Republican, 1909-1913)  
Woodrow Wilson (Democrat, 1913-1921)  
Calvin Coolidge (Republican, 1923-1929)  
Franklin Delano Roosevelt (Democrat, 1933-1945)  
Henry Truman (Democrat, 1945-1953)  
Dwight Eisenhower (Republican, 1953-1961)  
John Fitzgerald Kennedy (Democrat, 1961-1963)  
Lyndon Baines Johnson (Democrat, 1963-1969)  
Gerald Ford (Republican, 1974-1977)  
James Earl Carter (Democrat, 1977-1981)  
George Herbert Walker Bush (Republican, 1989-1993)  
William Jefferson Clinton (Democrat, 1993-2001)

Eliminated Presidents:

1. James Buchanan (Democrat, 1857-1861)
2. Franklin Pierce (Democrat, 1853-1857)
3. Andrew Johnson (National Union, 1865-1869)
4. Warren Harding (Republican, 1921-1923)
5. Milliard Filmore (Whig, 1850-1853)
6. Richard Milhous Nixon (Republican, 1969-1974)
7. Herbert Hoover (Republican, 1929-1933)
8. Ronald Reagan (Republican, 1981-1989)
9. Andrew Jackson (Democrat, 1829-1837)
10. Rutherford Hayes (Republican, 1877-1881)
11. Ulysses Grant (Republican, 1869-1877)

Madison once again.

Voting will remain open until 11:15 Central Time on Tuesday; if there are not 20 votes by that time, it will remain open for a further 2 days or until 20 votes are recorded.

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**Author:** ![MsWhatsit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/eb8c5e/32.png) [@MsWhatsit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MsWhatsit)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2009, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-president-elimination-game/511317/282 "2009-10-24T16:19:08Z")

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Madison for me as well.

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**Author:** ![amarone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e0b2c6/32.png) [@amarone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amarone)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2009, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-president-elimination-game/511317/283 "2009-10-24T16:33:33Z")

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Carter

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**Author:** ![Pulp\_Friction](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/2acd7d/32.png) [@Pulp\_Friction](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pulp_Friction)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2009, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-president-elimination-game/511317/284 "2009-10-24T17:09:16Z")

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Holy shite, have you folks never heard of John Tyler? He stumbled into the presidency only because Harrison came down with the rockin’ pneumonia. He defended slavery. He opposed the Missouri Compromise. He was the object of the first impeachment proceedings against a president in American history, with accusations of “corruption, official misconduct, and other high crimes and misdemeanors”. He was renounced by his own party while still in office because he 180’d on most every statement he made while running for VP. His entire cabinet (save one) resigned on him.

And I haven’t even mentioned his horse-face: [http://www.morallaw.org/images/John\_Tyler.png](http://www.morallaw.org/images/John_Tyler.png)

Tippecanoe, but Tyler’s poo.

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**Author:** ![Sternvogel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bc79bd/32.png) [@Sternvogel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sternvogel)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2009, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-president-elimination-game/511317/285 "2009-10-24T17:22:27Z")

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I had noticed that [“His Accidency”](http://www.intothewoods.us/HikerMama/Patriots/PresidentTyler.html) was slipping under the voters’ collective radar, but I’ll second **Pulp Friction** ’s nomination.

Tyler.

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**Author:** ![Makeitstop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/bb73d2/32.png) [@Makeitstop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Makeitstop)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2009, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-president-elimination-game/511317/286 "2009-10-24T17:42:21Z")

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Still gotta go with Carter.

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**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2009, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-president-elimination-game/511317/287 "2009-10-24T18:57:41Z")

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Somehow I missed this round of voting (I think I didn’t notice the results at the end of the previous page, probably due to the board doing one of its random “unread posts” resettings, and assumed that Hayes was still on the ballot). Since I likely would have gone for Grant as well, no harm no foul.

This time it’s Tyler, tho if he goes I’ll likely spring [del]for[/del] against Carter next round.

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**Author:** ![CyclopticXander](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/59ef9b/32.png) [@CyclopticXander](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CyclopticXander)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2009, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-president-elimination-game/511317/288 "2009-10-24T19:42:36Z")

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I concur with Tyler, come to think of it he is definitely the worst remaining.

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**Author:** ![StusBlues](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dc4da7/32.png) [@StusBlues](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StusBlues)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2009, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-president-elimination-game/511317/289 "2009-10-24T21:31:15Z")

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I’ll join the Tyler zeitgeist. It was a coinflip between him and JEC last round.

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**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2009, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-president-elimination-game/511317/290 "2009-10-24T21:55:48Z")

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I’ll vote for Tyler, if only to keep Jimmy Carter alive another round.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2009, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-president-elimination-game/511317/291 "2009-10-24T23:35:15Z")

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Still effin’ Van Buren.

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**Author:** ![Polycarp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/82dd89/32.png) [@Polycarp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Polycarp)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2009, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-president-elimination-game/511317/292 "2009-10-25T00:06:45Z")

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John Calvin Coolidge, again, for pity’ sake.

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**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2009, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-president-elimination-game/511317/293 "2009-10-25T01:04:18Z")

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Would Coolidge be the closest thing to an empty suit in the office? Not a figurehead, but someone who didn’t do anything of note for four years? I think we have a thread around here on whether no president would have been better than Bush Jr.

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**Author:** ![ToeJam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/dfb087/32.png) [@ToeJam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ToeJam)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2009, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-president-elimination-game/511317/294 "2009-10-25T01:24:16Z")

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Hey- coolidge had some great quips- and he was a quiet man. I can get behind that. Plus- he’s got one of the greatest Sexuality phenomenons labeled after himself (Coolidge Effect anyone?)

Give Tyler the Boot and let Silent Cal stay til the end!

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2009, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-president-elimination-game/511317/295 "2009-10-25T01:43:53Z")

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No, no, no. Tyler at least established the principle that the Vice President _becomes_ President upon the death or resignation of the President. He didn’t do enough bad to be booted now; certainly not as bad as Madison stumbling into the War of 1812 and getting the White House burned. Sheesh.

Madison once again.

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**Author:** ![cuauhtemoc](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ecb155/32.png) [@cuauhtemoc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cuauhtemoc)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2009, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-president-elimination-game/511317/296 "2009-10-25T02:07:41Z")

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This thread has no right to be as interesting as it is.

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**Author:** ![Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/f04885/32.png) [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qin_Shi_Huangdi)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2009, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-president-elimination-game/511317/297 "2009-10-25T02:43:34Z")

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Madison, get rid of him for God’s sake!

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**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2009, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-president-elimination-game/511317/298 "2009-10-25T03:15:12Z")

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Madison consistently rated from 8 to 18 in the link given in post #252, again YMMV. Tyler however was always in the bottom 4th, the threshold of which we are about to cross now. I don’t think the War of 1812 was the abject disaster that some of you feel it is.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2009, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-president-elimination-game/511317/299 "2009-10-25T03:51:06Z")

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In its outcome, no. It was essentially a draw. But what part of “got the White House burned” don’t you understand? :mad: 😉

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**Author:** ![Pulp\_Friction](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/2acd7d/32.png) [@Pulp\_Friction](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pulp_Friction)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2009, 4:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-president-elimination-game/511317/300 "2009-10-25T04:22:17Z")

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> [@](#):
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> No, no, no. Tyler at least established the principle that the Vice President _becomes_ President upon the death or resignation of the President.

And _ **why** _ did he do this? Choose one:

1. For the good of the country
2. On account of he’d get to be president.

I’ll choose door number 2, Monte.

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