# The President Elimination Game

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-president-elimination-game/511317>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [September 24, 2009, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-president-elimination-game/511317 "2009-09-24T01:36:57Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![ToeJam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/dfb087/32.png) [@ToeJam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ToeJam)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2009, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-president-elimination-game/511317/481 "2009-11-16T01:17:06Z")

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What’s the vote count at?

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2009, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-president-elimination-game/511317/482 "2009-11-16T02:00:51Z")

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I make it a four-way tie for ouster:

Adams: 4  
Coolidge: 4  
Harrison: 4  
Taylor: 4  
Arthur: 1  
Ford: 1

Feel free to double-check my counting, though.

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**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2009, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-president-elimination-game/511317/483 "2009-11-16T02:22:26Z")

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Wow.

What’s your tiebreaking procedure? Wait for someone else to chime in?

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2009, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-president-elimination-game/511317/484 "2009-11-16T02:28:05Z")

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Dig them up and make them fight it out as zombies.

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**Author:** ![StusBlues](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dc4da7/32.png) [@StusBlues](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StusBlues)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2009, 12:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-president-elimination-game/511317/485 "2009-11-16T12:29:41Z")

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I switch my vote to Harrison to save Taylor.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2009, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-president-elimination-game/511317/486 "2009-11-16T16:11:59Z")

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Rock, paper, scissors? Or have a lightning round limited to the top four vote-getters?

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**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2009, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-president-elimination-game/511317/487 "2009-11-16T16:17:54Z")

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If there’s a tie, the first President to receive a new or switched vote is eliminated. At the moment, Harrison is in the lead (I came up with the same count as Gyrate, but of course stu switched his vote).

(We did this once already, in the Grant-Carter-Madison showdown for #11).

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**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2009, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-president-elimination-game/511317/488 "2009-11-16T16:23:57Z")

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Silent Cal Coolidge.

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**Author:** ![Trepa\_Mayfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@Trepa\_Mayfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trepa_Mayfield)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2009, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-president-elimination-game/511317/489 "2009-11-16T16:51:11Z")

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I would say Cleavland, but in order to break the tie: Cooldige.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2009, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-president-elimination-game/511317/490 "2009-11-16T19:20:29Z")

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Can’t vote if you misspell both.

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**Author:** ![Highpockets](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e19adc/32.png) [@Highpockets](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Highpockets)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2009, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-president-elimination-game/511317/491 "2009-11-16T19:34:03Z")

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Coolidge

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**Author:** ![Swords\_to\_Plowshares](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b38774/32.png) [@Swords\_to\_Plowshares](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Swords_to_Plowshares)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2009, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-president-elimination-game/511317/492 "2009-11-16T19:56:48Z")

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Coolidge.

(I came to this thread late, but he would have been my choice before the tiebreaker)

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**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2009, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-president-elimination-game/511317/493 "2009-11-16T20:02:07Z")

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Vote count:

Coolidge 8  
Harrison 5  
Taylor 4  
Adams 3  
Arthur\* 1  
Ford\*\* 1

- not Dent  
\*\* not Prefect

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**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2009, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-president-elimination-game/511317/494 "2009-11-16T20:04:05Z")

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Calvin Coolidge loses.

George Washington (None, 1789-1797)  
John Adams (Federalist, 1797-1801)  
Thomas Jefferson (Democratic-Republican, 1801-1809)  
James Monroe (Democratic-Republican, 1817-1825)  
John Quincy Adams (Democratic-Republican, 1825-1829)  
James Polk (Democrat, 1845-1849)  
Zachary Taylor (Whig, 1849-1850)  
Abraham Lincoln (Republican, 1861-1865)  
Chester Arthur (Republican, 1881-1885)  
Grover Cleveland (Democrat, 1885-1889, 1893-1897)  
Benjamin Harrison (Republican, 1889-1893)  
William McKinley (Republican, 1897-1901)  
Theodore Roosevelt (Republican, 1901-1909)  
William Howard Taft (Republican, 1909-1913)  
Franklin Delano Roosevelt (Democrat, 1933-1945)  
Henry Truman (Democrat, 1945-1953)  
Dwight Eisenhower (Republican, 1953-1961)  
John Fitzgerald Kennedy (Democrat, 1961-1963)  
Lyndon Baines Johnson (Democrat, 1963-1969)  
Gerald Ford (Republican, 1974-1977)  
George Herbert Walker Bush (Republican, 1989-1993)  
William Jefferson Clinton (Democrat, 1993-2001)

Eliminated Presidents:

1. James Buchanan (Democrat, 1857-1861)
2. Franklin Pierce (Democrat, 1853-1857)
3. Andrew Johnson (National Union, 1865-1869)
4. Warren Harding (Republican, 1921-1923)
5. Millard Fillmore (Whig, 1850-1853)
6. Richard Milhous Nixon (Republican, 1969-1974)
7. Herbert Hoover (Republican, 1929-1933)
8. Ronald Reagan (Republican, 1981-1989)
9. Andrew Jackson (Democrat, 1829-1837)
10. Rutherford Hayes (Republican, 1877-1881)
11. Ulysses Grant (Republican, 1869-1877)
12. John Tyler (Whig, 1841-1845)
13. James Earl Carter (Democrat, 1977-1981)
14. James Madison (Democratic-Republican, 1809-1817)
15. Martin Van Buren (Democrat, 1837-1841)
16. Woodrow Wilson (Democrat, 1913-1921)
17. Calvin Coolidge (Republican, 1923-1929)

I’m going to be inconsistent and switch my vote to John Adams.

Voting will close on Thursday at 2 PM.

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**Author:** ![Swords\_to\_Plowshares](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b38774/32.png) [@Swords\_to\_Plowshares](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Swords_to_Plowshares)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2009, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-president-elimination-game/511317/495 "2009-11-16T20:21:39Z")

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John Quincy Adams was a great Secretary of State but a poor president (largely due to the Tariff of Abominations and the subsequent nullification fiasco). He gets my vote.

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**Author:** ![Algorithm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/algorithm/32/12204_2.png) [@Algorithm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Algorithm)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2009, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-president-elimination-game/511317/496 "2009-11-16T21:07:50Z")

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John Adams.

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**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2009, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-president-elimination-game/511317/497 "2009-11-16T21:14:37Z")

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Not the Adamses!

Sticking with Harrison, although keeping my eye on Taylor if it goes badly for him.

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**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2009, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-president-elimination-game/511317/498 "2009-11-16T21:16:27Z")

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George HW Bush. If only because he hasn’t gotten any votes yet.

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**Author:** ![StusBlues](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dc4da7/32.png) [@StusBlues](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StusBlues)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2009, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-president-elimination-game/511317/499 "2009-11-16T21:30:20Z")

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John Adams. Anyone who would stand by while an opposition congressman was thrown in jail – for no reason other than being an opposition congressman – barely deserves to be called an American, let alone a president.

Am I being a little hyperbolic? Sure, but I’m not distorting the truth. I don’t always agree with my country’s actions, but I must believe in her highest principles, and Adams violated them. In spades.

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**Author:** ![Leiko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Leiko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leiko)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2009, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-president-elimination-game/511317/500 "2009-11-16T21:53:33Z")

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I know it’s getting boring, but Zachary Taylor is still my vote.

(Also, as a fangirl of the musical 1776, I am going through cycles of being offended that Adams is so heavily voted for and acceptance, because he is “obnoxious and disliked, that cannot be denied.”)

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