# The President Elimination Game

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-president-elimination-game/511317>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [September 24, 2009, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-president-elimination-game/511317 "2009-09-24T01:36:57Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Scuba\_Ben](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/278dde/32.png) [@Scuba\_Ben](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scuba_Ben)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2009, 1:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-president-elimination-game/511317/41 "2009-09-25T13:28:31Z")

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T. Jefferson. His election dang near tore the country apart, he reversed just about every foreign policy decision of his predecessor, and he almost turned the country into a French puppet state.

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**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2009, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-president-elimination-game/511317/42 "2009-09-25T15:25:30Z")

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Nixon is next.

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**Author:** ![DaphneBlack](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/daphneblack/32/5389_2.png) [@DaphneBlack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DaphneBlack)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2009, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-president-elimination-game/511317/43 "2009-09-25T17:59:06Z")

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Andrew Johnson!

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**Author:** ![YogSothoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/8edcca/32.png) [@YogSothoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YogSothoth)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2009, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-president-elimination-game/511317/44 "2009-09-25T18:21:35Z")

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Hoover

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**Author:** ![Sternvogel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bc79bd/32.png) [@Sternvogel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sternvogel)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2009, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-president-elimination-game/511317/45 "2009-09-25T19:35:43Z")

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[Harding](http://www.essortment.com/all/warrengharding_rkpr.htm) again. He didn’t exactly get nominated on the first ballot in 1920, though, so I guess it’s somehow appropriate he’s still around in this game.

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**Author:** ![MsWhatsit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/eb8c5e/32.png) [@MsWhatsit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MsWhatsit)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2009, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-president-elimination-game/511317/46 "2009-09-25T20:09:07Z")

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Fillmore again. Fillmore or bust!

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**Author:** ![Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/f04885/32.png) [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qin_Shi_Huangdi)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2009, 11:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-president-elimination-game/511317/47 "2009-09-25T23:09:19Z")

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Franklin Pierce has been eliminated

George Washington (None, 1789-1797)  
John Adams (Federalist, 1797-1801)  
Thomas Jefferson (Democratic-Republican, 1801-1809)  
James Madison (Democratic-Republican, 1809-1817)  
James Monroe (Democratic-Republican, 1817-1825)  
John Quincy Adams (Democratic-Republican, 1825-1829)  
Andrew Jackson (Democrat, 1829-1837)  
Martin Van Buren (Democrat, 1837-1841)  
John Tyler (Whig, 1841-1845)  
James Polk (Democrat, 1845-1849)  
Zachary Taylor (Whig, 1849-1850)  
Milliard Filmore (Whig, 1850-1853)  
Abraham Lincoln (Republican, 1861-1865)  
Andrew Johnson (National Union, 1865-1869)  
Ulysses Grant (Republican, 1869-1877)  
Rutherford Hayes (Republican, 1877-1881)  
Chester Arthur (Republican, 1881-1885)  
Grover Cleveland (Democrat, 1885-1889, 1893-1897)  
Benjamin Harrison (Republican, 1889-1893)  
William McKinley (Republican, 1897-1901)  
Theodore Roosevelt (Republican, 1901-1909)  
William Howard Taft (Republican, 1909-1913)  
Woodrow Wilson (Democrat, 1913-1921)  
Warren Harding (Republican, 1921-1923)  
Calvin Coolidge (Republican, 1923-1929)  
Herbert Hoover (Republican, 1929-1933)  
Franklin Delano Roosevelt (Democrat, 1933-1945)  
Henry Truman (Democrat, 1945-1953)  
Dwight Eisenhower (Republican, 1953-1961)  
John Fitzgerald Kennedy (Democrat, 1961-1963)  
Lyndon Baines Johnson (Democrat, 1963-1969)  
Richard Milhous Nixon (Republican, 1969-1974)  
Gerald Ford (Republican, 1974-1977)  
James Earl Carter (Democrat, 1977-1981)  
Ronald Reagan (Republican, 1981-1989)  
George Herbert Walker Bush (Republican, 1989-1993)  
William Jefferson Clinton (Democrat, 1993-2001)

Eliminated Presidents:

1. James Buchanan (Democrat, 1857-1861)
2. Franklin Pierce (Democrat, 1853-1857)

Milliard Filmore is next!

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**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2009, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-president-elimination-game/511317/48 "2009-09-25T23:18:33Z")

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Staying with James Madison. Getting your capital burned is bad.

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**Author:** ![CyclopticXander](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/59ef9b/32.png) [@CyclopticXander](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CyclopticXander)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2009, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-president-elimination-game/511317/49 "2009-09-26T02:34:17Z")

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Andrew Johnson. A thousand times Andrew Johnson!

If he really survives another round then you peeps need to go back to history class:)

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2009, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-president-elimination-game/511317/50 "2009-09-26T02:35:01Z")

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Still gotta go with Nixon. Did more to undermine American democracy than any other President.

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**Author:** ![Ulf\_the\_Unwashed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/b4bc9f/32.png) [@Ulf\_the\_Unwashed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ulf_the_Unwashed)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2009, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-president-elimination-game/511317/51 "2009-09-26T02:50:15Z")

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Oh, you’re all correct about the evils of Nixon and A. Johnson, but really…Warren Harding…I mean…

Harding. Again.

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**Author:** ![racer72](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/racer72/32/3075_2.png) [@racer72](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/racer72)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2009, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-president-elimination-game/511317/52 "2009-09-26T03:51:39Z")

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As a graduate of Franklin Pierce High School, I wanted to vote for him. Oh well, I’ll go for. Rutherford Hayes.

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**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2009, 3:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-president-elimination-game/511317/53 "2009-09-26T03:53:46Z")

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Grant

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**Author:** ![Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/d9b06d/32.png) [@Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boozahol_Squid_P.I)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2009, 4:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-president-elimination-game/511317/54 "2009-09-26T04:05:40Z")

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Andy Johnson

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**Author:** ![CyclopticXander](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/59ef9b/32.png) [@CyclopticXander](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CyclopticXander)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2009, 4:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-president-elimination-game/511317/55 "2009-09-26T04:51:36Z")

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> [@racer72](#):
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> As a graduate of Franklin Pierce High School, I wanted to vote for him. Oh well, I’ll go for. Rutherford Hayes.

Ouch, he’s one of my faves:)

I understand why he is largely forgotten because it was a pretty uneventful term comparatively speaking, but I really don’t see what would make him bad by any standard. He was an entirely decent person, his incorruptible nature did a lot to help the party heal from the nasty parts of the Grant administration, civil service reform became a priority, he was committed to the rights of African Americans, He pulled the feds out of the south exactly when it needed to be done, he dealt with the railroad strike of 1877 very well…I could really go on and on.

Lay off Rud:)

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**Author:** ![Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/d9b06d/32.png) [@Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boozahol_Squid_P.I)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2009, 6:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-president-elimination-game/511317/56 "2009-09-26T06:31:33Z")

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You forgot to mention RBH’s absolutely fantastic beard. I think most of those late 19th century guys should get a few bonus points just for fantastic facial hair.

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**Author:** ![StusBlues](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dc4da7/32.png) [@StusBlues](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StusBlues)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2009, 10:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-president-elimination-game/511317/57 "2009-09-26T10:29:38Z")

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Rutherford B. Hayes. By caving to Southern demends, he set the nation on a road to Civil Rights inequality that would not be substantively addressed for 87 years. He also called out the army against striking workers, killing 70 in the process. Many would say these things were “necessary”. Hogwash. Hayes’ response to crisis was right up there with Pierce’s and Buchanan’s.

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**Author:** ![CyclopticXander](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/59ef9b/32.png) [@CyclopticXander](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CyclopticXander)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2009, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-president-elimination-game/511317/58 "2009-09-26T14:45:22Z")

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> [@stuthehistoryguy](#):
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> Rutherford B. Hayes. By caving to Southern demends, he set the nation on a road to Civil Rights inequality that would not be substantively addressed for 87 years. He also called out the army against striking workers, killing 70 in the process. Many would say these things were “necessary”. Hogwash. Hayes’ response to crisis was right up there with Pierce’s and Buchanan’s.

Well the war had ended over a decade prior, just how long do you think occupation of the south should have continued in order to prevent the ensuing century of racial inequality? Puhlease…

I must remind myself this is not GD:)

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**Author:** ![StusBlues](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dc4da7/32.png) [@StusBlues](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StusBlues)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2009, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-president-elimination-game/511317/59 "2009-09-26T15:18:49Z")

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> [@CyclopticXander](#):
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> Well the war had ended over a decade prior, just how long do you think occupation of the south should have continued in order to prevent the ensuing century of racial inequality?

As of today, the Voting rights act has been in force for 45 years–and it has been renewed for another 20+ years. That will make over 65 years wherein the former confederacy will not have had control over its voting laws.

And that didn’t come until a \*century \*after the war.

There’s no way to make Hayes right on this one. Anyone who has Andrew Johnson on their list of bad presidents has to have Hayes right there next to him. And that’s not even addressing all those railroad worker deaths.

If you’d like to discuss this further, it may be best to open a GD thread on this topic to avoid this thread being hijacked further.

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**Author:** ![ToeJam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/dfb087/32.png) [@ToeJam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ToeJam)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2009, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-president-elimination-game/511317/60 "2009-09-26T15:34:09Z")

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Andrew Johnson’s gotta go.

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