# The President Elimination Game

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-president-elimination-game/511317>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [September 24, 2009, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-president-elimination-game/511317 "2009-09-24T01:36:57Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 9

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**Author:** ![StusBlues](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dc4da7/32.png) [@StusBlues](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StusBlues)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2009, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-president-elimination-game/511317/161 "2009-10-07T18:57:21Z")

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> [@YogSosoth](#):
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> Reagan. Many of the other presidents are too long gone to still affect us. It can be said that America survived their disaster. The ushering in of Reagan was a turning point in the religious right gaining power, whose vehement vitriol seems to have no end in sight. Politics may forever be diminished because of Reagan and what he represented.

Well, I must admit you’ve got a point there.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2009, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-president-elimination-game/511317/162 "2009-10-07T18:57:48Z")

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> [@St.Anger](#):
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> Thanks to his mishandling of the Iranian Revolution, we can thank Jimma for Iran being run by radical zealots who are about to build a nuclear bomb. America was humiliated in front of the world by the Iranian hostage crisis for over a year. Jimma was unable to control inflation. He gave away the Panama Canal, which could one day prove to be a colossal strategic blunder.

Blaming Carter for the Iranian Revolution is like blaming Obama for the credit crunch.

Plus, there are a dozen threads clearly explaining why military action was not an option in the hostage crisis (other than a furtive rescue mission, which was tried, and failed spectacularly). I suggest you read them.

Otherwise, you might as well blame Carter for global warming, teen pregnancy and the dismal plight of the Notre Dame football program.

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**Author:** ![CyclopticXander](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/59ef9b/32.png) [@CyclopticXander](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CyclopticXander)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2009, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-president-elimination-game/511317/163 "2009-10-07T20:55:54Z")

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Van Buren

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2009, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-president-elimination-game/511317/164 "2009-10-07T23:41:22Z")

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Madison, as President, was worse than any of those mentioned this round (although Grant would certainly be in the running, and probably ought to go next). So Madison it is.

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**Author:** ![Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/f04885/32.png) [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qin_Shi_Huangdi)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2009, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-president-elimination-game/511317/165 "2009-10-09T01:30:18Z")

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Rekindling interest in game.

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**Author:** ![ToeJam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/dfb087/32.png) [@ToeJam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ToeJam)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2009, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-president-elimination-game/511317/166 "2009-10-09T03:29:48Z")

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Who won the last round though? (or lost?) It’s been 24 hours. So it still counts.  
Did Reagan actually manage to take a quick finish?

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**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2009, 4:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-president-elimination-game/511317/167 "2009-10-09T04:19:46Z")

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I can’t believe that **Chester Arthur** has not been eliminated. I used to live about 5 miles from his alledged birthplace (Fairfield VT) when I was in Jr High. My Jr high history teacher told us that their was some evidence he was born in Canada. The Canada border is about 20 miles to the North.

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**Author:** ![StusBlues](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dc4da7/32.png) [@StusBlues](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StusBlues)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2009, 11:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-president-elimination-game/511317/168 "2009-10-09T11:00:48Z")

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Being born in Canada makes the guy a bad president? Hogwash.

Curtis, are you going to call this round for Reagan? C’mon, it’s the right thing to do.

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**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2009, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-president-elimination-game/511317/169 "2009-10-09T15:38:30Z")

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I haven’t been counting so I don’t know if Reagan was the loser, but the results are whatever they are. It’s only a game, for goodness sake. I want to see who the survivor is.

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**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2009, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-president-elimination-game/511317/170 "2009-10-09T16:46:28Z")

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> [@BobLibDem](#):
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> I haven’t been counting so I don’t know if Reagan was the loser, but the results are whatever they are. It’s only a game, for goodness sake. I want to see who the survivor is.

I currently have it:  
Reagan 4  
Carter 3  
Hayes 3  
Madison 2  
Grant 2  
Cleveland  
Jackson  
Van Buren  
Arthur

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**Author:** ![Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/f04885/32.png) [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qin_Shi_Huangdi)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2009, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-president-elimination-game/511317/171 "2009-10-09T22:54:50Z")

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I will wait until at least twenty people have voted.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2009, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-president-elimination-game/511317/172 "2009-10-09T23:16:44Z")

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There are at least two votes for Van Buren - mine and **CyclopticXander** ’s.

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**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2009, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-president-elimination-game/511317/173 "2009-10-10T02:42:51Z")

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> [@Curtis LeMay](#):
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> I will wait until at least twenty people have voted.

Change those rules! Move those goalposts!

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2009, 4:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-president-elimination-game/511317/174 "2009-10-10T04:35:43Z")

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Reported spam post. ^

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**Author:** ![CyclopticXander](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/59ef9b/32.png) [@CyclopticXander](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CyclopticXander)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2009, 4:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-president-elimination-game/511317/175 "2009-10-10T04:46:40Z")

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Can we get a clarification on the methodology here? I’m hoping it’s standard for each round.

Maybe, given the level of participation, there should be a vote limit as well as a time limit and rounds should end after whichever we get to first?

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**Author:** ![ToeJam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/dfb087/32.png) [@ToeJam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ToeJam)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2009, 6:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-president-elimination-game/511317/176 "2009-10-10T06:06:09Z")

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I gotta agree with the crazy Anti-Reagan guy here. That’s just moving the goalposts- gotta make the rules known at the START of the game, can’t just wait until you’re halfway through.

Whatdya think this is? Calvinball?

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**Author:** ![Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/f04885/32.png) [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qin_Shi_Huangdi)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2009, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-president-elimination-game/511317/177 "2009-10-10T16:31:16Z")

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> [@CyclopticXander](#):
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> Can we get a clarification on the methodology here? I’m hoping it’s standard for each round.
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> Maybe, given the level of participation, there should be a vote limit as well as a time limit and rounds should end after whichever we get to first?

Possibly, a limit of thirty votes and a minimum of twenty votes before a President is eliminated.

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**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2009, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-president-elimination-game/511317/178 "2009-10-10T19:58:51Z")

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Nobody has voted Wilson yet? Time to remedy that…

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**Author:** ![amarone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e0b2c6/32.png) [@amarone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amarone)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2009, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-president-elimination-game/511317/179 "2009-10-10T21:35:22Z")

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Are we allowed to change our vote if the final tally has not been taken? If so, I will drop Jackson and replace with Carter.

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**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2009, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-president-elimination-game/511317/180 "2009-10-11T01:31:50Z")

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I’ll also switch votes to Reagan-I want to be on record as voting [del]for[/del] against him at least once. In terms of effects on the present day, he set the stage for the current wingnut infestation, even if he was a “nice” guy in comparison.

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