# The President's Physical. **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [January 17, 2018, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-presidents-physical/806785 "2018-01-17T00:18:04Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2018, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-presidents-physical/806785/21 "2018-01-17T03:16:48Z")
> [@psychobunny](#): > > OK, just remember that muscle is much denser than fat. A person who is 6’3", 239 pounds and has good muscle tone will look like the linked picture. A person who is 6’3" and a couch potato will look like Trump. I shared this link in a thread in the Elections forum – this is from a website which has collected self-submitted photos of people at different heights and weights. T[here are four guys who are listed at 6’3" and 240 pounds.](http://height-weight-chart.com/603-240.html) Three of the four (one guy submitted two photos) look like they have at least a bit of a spare tire / paunch (though I’d argue that they don’t seem to be nearly as paunchy as Trump); the fourth is a bodybuilder. ---
**Author:** ![Channing\_Idaho\_Banks](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/channing_idaho_banks/32/250_2.png) [@Channing\_Idaho\_Banks](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Channing_Idaho_Banks)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2018, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-presidents-physical/806785/22 "2018-01-17T03:33:33Z")
Loser Donald lies about his height, too. ---
**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2018, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-presidents-physical/806785/23 "2018-01-17T03:51:28Z")
Well, he is a confirmed liar. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2018, 4:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-presidents-physical/806785/24 "2018-01-17T04:07:33Z")
Seriously, does the government want to tell us (and the rest of the world) that the person in charge of the country is a demented _blancmange_? This is the public report. It is tailored for our consumption. The actual data may not reflect reality. This is the work of the super-secret agency known as the CYA. ---
**Author:** ![AnalogSignal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/analogsignal/32/1085_2.png) [@AnalogSignal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AnalogSignal)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2018, 4:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-presidents-physical/806785/25 "2018-01-17T04:12:33Z")
There is something very fishy about this doctor’s report. An out of shape guy who eats McDonalds, doesn’t exercise, and is rapidly gaining weight, is not in “excellent” health. I wonder if Trump had a little talk with Dr. Ronny. “You know I demand loyalty. Dozens of doctors would give their left arm to have a nice cushy job like you have. You’re not going to say anything foolish like Sloppy Steve. You know, things didn’t turn out so good for Sloppy Steve.” ---
**Author:** ![psychobunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/54ee81/32.png) [@psychobunny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/psychobunny)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2018, 5:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-presidents-physical/806785/26 "2018-01-17T05:00:41Z")
Forgot to mention his vitamin D is low. Needs supplements or more sunshine. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2018, 5:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-presidents-physical/806785/27 "2018-01-17T05:02:59Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > Seriously, does the government want to tell us (and the rest of the world) that \*\*the person in charge of the country is a demented _blancmange_? \*\*This is the public report. It is tailored for our consumption. The actual data may not reflect reality. This is the work of the super-secret agency known as the CYA. As long as he doesn’t set his sights on winning Wimbledon… ---
**Author:** ![Wesley\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wesley_clark/32/20581_2.png) [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2018, 5:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-presidents-physical/806785/28 "2018-01-17T05:25:41Z")
> [@psychobunny](#): > > OK, just remember that muscle is much denser than fat. A person who is 6’3", 239 pounds and has good muscle tone will look like the linked picture. A person who is 6’3" and a couch potato will look like Trump. Are you talking about the photo I posted? That is Joe cross, who lost weight from a vegetable juice diet. Here he is at 310 lbs. This is much closer to trumps frame. [![](https://i.pinimg.com/originals/61/28/e3/6128e3dc85990b0e23d9e7cf80f683be.jpg) ](https://i.pinimg.com/originals/61/28/e3/6128e3dc85990b0e23d9e7cf80f683be.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Wesley\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wesley_clark/32/20581_2.png) [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2018, 5:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-presidents-physical/806785/29 "2018-01-17T05:42:31Z")
> [@galen\_ubal](#): > > Huh. [This just came across my Twitter feed.](https://twitter.com/RogueSNRadvisor/status/953461199412199424)I have no information about the dependability of this source. > > On the one hand, I wouldn’t be surprised at Trump demanding that his numbers be fudged. I _would_ be surprised that a flag officer, even a little flag like Jackson, would consent to do anymore than lightly sugarcoat the facts.\* > > \*ie, “The President could stand to lose some weight” rather than “My god, he’s fat!” That’s the only thing I can’t figure out. Why would a physician and admiral be willing to lie like this. I can’t figure than part out. That guy has been in the white house since 2013, he isn’t even a Trump appointee. But trumps physical sounds too good to be true and trump has a long history of lying and gaslighting. Plus again, his height/weight ratio is exactly one pound below the cutoff for obesity, and he scored perfect on the dementia test (even healthy controls normally don’t score perfectly on the test)? Sounds fishy. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2018, 6:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-presidents-physical/806785/30 "2018-01-17T06:51:33Z")
> [@Wesley\_Clark](#): > > Plus again, his height/weight ratio is exactly one pound below the cutoff for obesity, and he scored perfect on the dementia test (even healthy controls normally don’t score perfectly on the test)? Sounds fishy. Also, [he’s apparently grown an inch since the last time he renewed his driver’s license.](https://www.rawstory.com/2018/01/if-you-believe-donald-trumps-doctor-the-president-has-grown-a-full-inch-since-becoming-a-senior-citizen/) ---
**Author:** ![Two\_Many\_Cats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8dc957/32.png) [@Two\_Many\_Cats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Two_Many_Cats)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2018, 11:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-presidents-physical/806785/31 "2018-01-17T11:16:56Z")
The Cheeto and I have the same BMI… EEEEEEEEWWWWWWWWW!!! ---
**Author:** ![bobkitty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/c67d28/32.png) [@bobkitty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobkitty)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2018, 11:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-presidents-physical/806785/32 "2018-01-17T11:41:52Z")
They said Reagan was totally healthy and had no cognitive issues during the latter bit of his presidency, and we all know how accurate that was. ---
**Author:** ![Dinsdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/97f17d/32.png) [@Dinsdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dinsdale)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2018, 1:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-presidents-physical/806785/33 "2018-01-17T13:35:10Z")
I sure didn’t see the tape/scale, but I’m 6’3" and 205-10#. It shocks me that Donny weighs only 30# more than me, but I suppose it is possible. I would have guessed somewhere in the 265-85# range. ---
**Author:** ![Wesley\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wesley_clark/32/20581_2.png) [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2018, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-presidents-physical/806785/34 "2018-01-17T15:25:13Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > Also, [he’s apparently grown an inch since the last time he renewed his driver’s license.](https://www.rawstory.com/2018/01/if-you-believe-donald-trumps-doctor-the-president-has-grown-a-full-inch-since-becoming-a-senior-citizen/) I know. And look at how the 6’3" Trump towers over the 6’1" Obama. [https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-stat/graphics/local/inauguration/2017-01-20T175509Z\_213612117\_HT1ED1K1DRHBM\_RTRMADP\_3\_USA-TRUMP-INAUGURATION.jpg](https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-stat/graphics/local/inauguration/2017-01-20T175509Z_213612117_HT1ED1K1DRHBM_RTRMADP_3_USA-TRUMP-INAUGURATION.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Wesley\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wesley_clark/32/20581_2.png) [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2018, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-presidents-physical/806785/35 "2018-01-17T15:39:55Z")
And here are photos of Donald Trump next to Jeb Bush, who is also 6’3". they’re like identical cousins from that 60s TV show. [![](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/Pr1D-HjSZ7Y/maxresdefault.jpg) ](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/Pr1D-HjSZ7Y/maxresdefault.jpg) [![](https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1360/8937/files/GOP-HEIGHT_grande.jpg?v=1486064774) ](https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1360/8937/files/GOP-HEIGHT_grande.jpg?v=1486064774) [![](https://media.newyorker.com/photos/59097158c14b3c606c107fcc/master/w_727,c_limit/DonaldTrumpandJebBushthe911Bullies.jpg) ](https://media.newyorker.com/photos/59097158c14b3c606c107fcc/master/w_727,c_limit/DonaldTrumpandJebBushthe911Bullies.jpg) If Ronny Jackson allowed himself to be intimidated into lying, I hope his medical practice and military career face punishment. If an Admiral let himself be intimidated like this, he shouldn’t be an admiral. ---
**Author:** ![Folly](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folly/32/3219_2.png) [@Folly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folly)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2018, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-presidents-physical/806785/36 "2018-01-17T15:40:03Z")
I didn’t watch the news conference. Was the Doctor asked if he himself took the height / weight measurements? Was he asked about the misspelled name? ---
**Author:** ![Wesley\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wesley_clark/32/20581_2.png) [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2018, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-presidents-physical/806785/37 "2018-01-17T16:25:06Z")
This may sound like a conspiracy, but is the doctor leaving a bunch of signs he was intimidated and these results aren’t real? Saying weird stuff at the press conference Misspelling his own name Giving Trump a height/weight that is exactly 1 pound below obese Having Trump grow 1-2" Giving Trump a fasting blood glucose that is exactly 1 point below pre-diabetes (Trump was 99, prediabetes is 100) Perfect 30/30 on a dementia test when even healthy controls normally don’t get a perfect score. Knowing Trump I wouldn’t put it past him to threaten the doctor to give results that protect Trump’s fragile ego. But why would an admiral appointed by Obama let himself be intimidated? On some level he has to know the truth will come out and his professional career (both in medicine and military) will take a massive hit. If he let himself be intimidated, I hope he is demoted if not court martialed, and his medical license goes under review. ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2018, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-presidents-physical/806785/38 "2018-01-17T16:32:22Z")
> [@kunilou](#): > > Just remember, the cognitive test is not an indicator of mental health. Exactly. Cognitive ability is no indicator of other mental problems. A sociopath can have excellent cognitive skills. ---
**Author:** ![Wesley\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wesley_clark/32/20581_2.png) [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2018, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-presidents-physical/806785/39 "2018-01-17T17:16:49Z")
The speculation is that Trump may have both a narcissistic disorder and a dementia disorder. It would explain a lot if he does. ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2018, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-presidents-physical/806785/40 "2018-01-17T17:51:18Z")
> [@Wesley\_Clark](#): > > Plus again, his height/weight ratio is exactly one pound below the cutoff for obesity, and he scored perfect on the dementia test (even healthy controls normally don’t score perfectly on the test)? Sounds fishy. Sounds like he’s taking a page from the Putin Playbook. Next thing you know, we’ll be seeing [shirtless photos of trump](https://everythingtrademarks.files.wordpress.com/2015/09/trump.jpg). (Safe for viewing) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-presidents-physical/806785.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-presidents-physical/806785.md?page=3)