# The President's Physical.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-presidents-physical/806785>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [January 17, 2018, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-presidents-physical/806785 "2018-01-17T00:18:04Z")\
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**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2018, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-presidents-physical/806785/41 "2018-01-17T17:52:36Z")

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President’s physical? I think he needs an [analyst.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_President%27s_Analyst)

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2018, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-presidents-physical/806785/42 "2018-01-17T18:36:14Z")

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At least it’s not lying as much as Trump’s previous physical, which proclaimed him the healthiest person ever to run for President.

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**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2018, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-presidents-physical/806785/43 "2018-01-17T18:46:31Z")

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Doesn’t Kim profess to be the healthiest, smartest most athletic person in Korea or the world?? Megalomaniac, maybe?

Brothers from another Mother?

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**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2018, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-presidents-physical/806785/44 "2018-01-17T19:02:53Z")

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Y’all are just a bunch of Girthers.

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**Post date:** [January 17, 2018, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-presidents-physical/806785/45 "2018-01-17T19:09:58Z")

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> [@BeenJammin](#):
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> No. Apparently, his cognitive score is above average. I believe that makes him a smart asshole.

A cognitive test says nothing about how smart you are. It makes him an asshole who has normal cognitive skills.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2018, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-presidents-physical/806785/46 "2018-01-17T19:14:45Z")

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> [@Loach](#):
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> Y’all are just a bunch of Girthers.

\*slaps \*\*Lo…\*_checks swing_  
_shakes finger severely at **Loach** for that one_

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2018, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-presidents-physical/806785/47 "2018-01-17T19:20:18Z")

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> [@Wesley\_Clark](#):
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> This may sound like a conspiracy, but is the doctor leaving a bunch of signs he was intimidated and these results aren’t real?
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> Saying weird stuff at the press conference  
> Misspelling his own name  
> Giving Trump a height/weight that is exactly 1 pound below obese  
> Having Trump grow 1-2"  
> Giving Trump a fasting blood glucose that is exactly 1 point below pre-diabetes (Trump was 99, prediabetes is 100)  
> Perfect 30/30 on a dementia test when even healthy controls normally don’t get a perfect score.
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> Knowing Trump I wouldn’t put it past him to threaten the doctor to give results that protect Trump’s fragile ego. But why would an admiral appointed by Obama let himself be intimidated? On some level he has to know the truth will come out and his professional career (both in medicine and military) will take a massive hit. If he let himself be intimidated, I hope he is demoted if not court martialed, and his medical license goes under review.

It sounds like a bunch of conspiracy stuff. The guy is not a captive in a prison camp.

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**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2018, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-presidents-physical/806785/48 "2018-01-17T19:22:39Z")

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> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> It sounds like a bunch of conspiracy stuff. The guy is not a captive in a prison camp.

No, but there could be an unfortunate…accident. Cars crash all the time, and burst into flames and have pianos fall on them.

Remember Vince Foster!

😉

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**Author:** ![Biffster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biffster/32/339_2.png) [@Biffster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffster)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2018, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-presidents-physical/806785/49 "2018-01-17T19:27:13Z")

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> [@Loach](#):
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> Y’all are just a bunch of Girthers.

You win the Internet!

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**Post date:** [January 17, 2018, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-presidents-physical/806785/50 "2018-01-17T20:23:26Z")

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> [@kunilou](#):
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> Just remember, the cognitive test is not an indicator of mental health.

My first thought when I heard this story was, “Did they test for malignant narcissism?”

I agree something is fishy. I saw a clip of the press conference where a reporter asked him point blank how someone who eats nothing but McDonald’s and fried chicken, and never exercises, could be in “perfect health.” He just shrugged and answered “Good genes?” I call BS, the whole thing was a setup.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2018, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-presidents-physical/806785/51 "2018-01-17T20:24:38Z")

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The doctor also said Trump had “lots of stamina”. When asked if he could elaborate how he tested that, he replied: _None of your damn business!_ 😃

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**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2018, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-presidents-physical/806785/52 "2018-01-17T20:59:07Z")

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It’s not like we don’t have examples of high-ranking military brass sucking up to him. The guy is probably looking for a Cabinet posting.

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**Post date:** [January 17, 2018, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-presidents-physical/806785/53 "2018-01-17T21:55:34Z")

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Apparently there is a media/twitter-storm over Trump’s cardiac health, which the official White House doc says is fine, but other luminaries like Sanjay Gupta think certain lab numbers (like LDL cholesterol) make Trump a walking heart attack in the making, or some such.

I sense that part of the reaction revolves around encouraging the perception that Trump is a physical as well as moral wreck and thus unfit for duty as Prez. But shouldn’t these people be rejoicing at the prospect of Trump suffering a catastrophic MI and having to step down?

We are confused.

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**Post date:** [January 17, 2018, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-presidents-physical/806785/54 "2018-01-17T22:00:33Z")

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> [@Chefguy](#):
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> Exactly. Cognitive ability is no indicator of other mental problems. A sociopath can have excellent cognitive skills.

A short cognitive test that he requested, where the questions and answers are easily found online?  
He didn’t even have brains enough to miss a question on purpose-he just _had_ to have his “perfect” score. :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![Wesley\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wesley_clark/32/20581_2.png) [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2018, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-presidents-physical/806785/55 "2018-01-17T23:35:17Z")

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> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> It sounds like a bunch of conspiracy stuff. The guy is not a captive in a prison camp.

Give it time. I’m sending my best and brightest to Hawaii to investigate.

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**Post date:** [January 18, 2018, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-presidents-physical/806785/56 "2018-01-18T01:45:08Z")

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I know how I looked at 240 and 6’. I don’t find Trump’s appearance inconsistent with that, especially if he is not 6’3".

Find something serious to criticize about. High cholesterol and marginal blood sugar do not add up to “excellent health”. I’d like to see that cognitive assessment test. In case someone pulls it on me.

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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2018, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-presidents-physical/806785/57 "2018-01-18T02:04:20Z")

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I think it was the Montreal Cognitive test. [http://www.mocatest.org/](http://www.mocatest.org/)

The site is currently down and under maintenance.

I saw samples from other sites earlier. So it’s pretty widely available.

Oh, and I’m 6’3", and 215 lbs. I’m a bit overweight. Trump is not 6’3". Doubt he ever was.

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**Post date:** [January 18, 2018, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-presidents-physical/806785/58 "2018-01-18T02:36:55Z")

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> [@Wesley\_Clark](#):
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> I know. And look at how the 6’3" Trump towers over the 6’1" Obama.
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> [https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-stat/graphics/local/inauguration/2017-01-20T175509Z\_213612117\_HT1ED1K1DRHBM\_RTRMADP\_3\_USA-TRUMP-INAUGURATION.jpg](https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-stat/graphics/local/inauguration/2017-01-20T175509Z_213612117_HT1ED1K1DRHBM_RTRMADP_3_USA-TRUMP-INAUGURATION.jpg)

Look at the shoes. Obama does have slightly more aggressive heels.

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**Post date:** [January 18, 2018, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-presidents-physical/806785/59 "2018-01-18T02:37:39Z")

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I have wondered if Trump will survive 4 years.

He was basically semi-retired, play acting on The Apprentice. He was the face of his company. I don’t think he had personally managed any big projects in many years.

Jumping back into a stressful job like the Presidency can’t be good. Especially if it’s true that he blows up at people every day. His blood pressure must be dangerously high.

I wouldn’t care if Pence wasn’t the next doofus at bat.

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**Post date:** [January 18, 2018, 3:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-presidents-physical/806785/60 "2018-01-18T03:24:23Z")

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This just in:  
[Trump’s Physical Revealed Serious Heart Concerns, Outside Experts Say](https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/17/us/politics/trump-physical-heart-health-cholesterol.html?mabReward=CTS2&recid=0zIH8yoBri9JEAWEDIhGjke1eiT&recp=2&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&region=CColumn&module=Recommendation&src=rechp&WT.nav=RecEngine)

> [@](#):
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> WASHINGTON — Cardiologists not associated with the White House said Wednesday that President Trump’s physical exam revealed serious heart concerns, including very high levels of so-called bad cholesterol, which raises the risk that Mr. Trump could have a heart attack while in office.
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> Dr. Ronny L. Jackson, a rear admiral and the White House physician, said Tuesday in his report on the president’s medical condition that Mr. Trump was in “excellent” cardiac health despite having an LDL cholesterol level of 143, well above the desired level of 100 or less.
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> Dr. David Maron, the director of preventive cardiology at Stanford University’s medical school, said Wednesday that it was alarming that the president’s LDL levels remain above 140 even though he is taking 10 milligrams of Crestor, a powerful drug that is used to lower cholesterol levels to well below 100.
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> Dr. Maron said he would “definitely” be worried about Mr. Trump’s risk for having a heart attack if the president were one of his patients. Asked if Mr. Trump is in perfect health, Dr. Maron offered a blunt reply: “God, no.”
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> …\<snipped a lot\>…
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> Even so, the cardiologists said Dr. Jackson understated the president’s risk of having heart trouble. Dr. Maron calculated the president’s risk of having a heart attack or stroke in the next 10 years, based on the high LDL levels and normal blood pressure. The result placed him in the top 25 percent of the population.
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> “I would call that high,” Dr. Maron said.

Well, thump will like being in the TOP 25% of anything, right?

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