# The Price of Owning Vehicle That Supports Terrorists

**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-price-of-owning-vehicle-that-supports-terrorists/159836
**Category:** The BBQ Pit
**Created:** [March 8, 2003, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-price-of-owning-vehicle-that-supports-terrorists/159836 "2003-03-08T02:13:45Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author: ![whistlepig](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/73ab20/32.png) [@whistlepig](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/whistlepig)
#### Post date: [March 8, 2003, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-price-of-owning-vehicle-that-supports-terrorists/159836/1 "2003-03-08T02:13:45Z")

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Charge for shoveling out your neighbor’s Toyota and helping to push it out of the middle of the street, where he’s stuck sideways in the snow:

NO CHARGE

Charge for driving back and forth in front of your neighbor’s house for 5 minutes to clear a path in the snow and then helping to push his girlfriend’s Honda up to the curb because she can’t make it up a 3 degree snow-covered slope:

NO CHARGE

Charge for driving up a 1/4 mile hill to shovel out your 73 year-old ex-mother-in-laws sidewalks:

4 OUNCES OF GLENLIVET

Joy of owning a full size 4x4 pickup truck during the worst snowstorm in 30 years (16 inches+ and still snowing):

FREAKING PRICELESS. BWAHAHAHAHAHA! WHAT KIND OF GAS MILEAGE IS YOUR LITTLE CAR GETTING SPINNING IT’S WHEELS IN THAT SNOWBANK?

Whistlepig

Charge for Whistlepig being an insufferable asshole after suffering through self-righteous anti-SUV threads:

FREE! 🙂

You may now commence the flaming. Like I care.

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### Author: ![samarm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4da419/32.png) [@samarm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/samarm)
#### Post date: [March 8, 2003, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-price-of-owning-vehicle-that-supports-terrorists/159836/2 "2003-03-08T02:22:54Z")

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Wow, is it time for another SUV meltdown already?  
Let’s see… I predict trainwreck status by page 5… lockdown by mod due to anarchic pile-on by page 12.

Here we go again… 🙂

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### Author: ![samarm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4da419/32.png) [@samarm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/samarm)
#### Post date: [March 8, 2003, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-price-of-owning-vehicle-that-supports-terrorists/159836/3 "2003-03-08T02:25:25Z")

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Seriously though, I support your point of view, [w]whistepig\*\*. If people think you’re Saddam Hussein’s brother because you drive a 4x4 then fuck em.

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### Author: ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)
#### Post date: [March 8, 2003, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-price-of-owning-vehicle-that-supports-terrorists/159836/4 "2003-03-08T02:30:54Z")

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Hey, at least he always sends birthday cards on time. Unlike **some** siblings I know.

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### Author: ![whistlepig](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/73ab20/32.png) [@whistlepig](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/whistlepig)
#### Post date: [March 8, 2003, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-price-of-owning-vehicle-that-supports-terrorists/159836/5 "2003-03-08T02:43:12Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by samarm \*  
> \*\*Wow, is it time for another SUV meltdown already?  
> Let’s see… I predict trainwreck status by page 5… lockdown by mod due to anarchic pile-on by page 12.
> 
> Here we go again… 🙂 \*\*

Isn’t “anarchic pile-on” an oxymoron?

I WANTED to put as a postscript -

Number of replies until someone says:

“Yeah, but what about the other 364 days a year when you drive that gus-guzzling, terrorist supporting, run-right-over-the-top-of-a-little-car-carrying-puppies-and-children BushHog? It’s just wrong!”

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But I thought that behavior was discouraged.

Whistlepig, who’s going out to shovel his walks for the 4th time today (4 inches of snow since 5 pm).

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### Author: ![Tony\_Montana](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/278dde/32.png) [@Tony\_Montana](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tony_Montana)
#### Post date: [March 8, 2003, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-price-of-owning-vehicle-that-supports-terrorists/159836/6 "2003-03-08T02:44:09Z")

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Hoo-boy

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### Author: ![whistlepig](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/73ab20/32.png) [@whistlepig](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/whistlepig)
#### Post date: [March 8, 2003, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-price-of-owning-vehicle-that-supports-terrorists/159836/7 "2003-03-08T02:48:03Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by Tony Montana \*  
> \*\*Hoo-boy \*\*

Yeah, it’s a lot of snow.

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### Author: ![samarm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4da419/32.png) [@samarm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/samarm)
#### Post date: [March 8, 2003, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-price-of-owning-vehicle-that-supports-terrorists/159836/8 "2003-03-08T02:50:43Z")

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Can’t we all just refer to the last SUVMT (S.U.V. meltdown thread) and be done with it? 🙂

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### Author: ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)
#### Post date: [March 8, 2003, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-price-of-owning-vehicle-that-supports-terrorists/159836/9 "2003-03-08T02:51:53Z")

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Just link him to the 50,000 other SUV hater threads.

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### Author: ![whistlepig](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/73ab20/32.png) [@whistlepig](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/whistlepig)
#### Post date: [March 8, 2003, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-price-of-owning-vehicle-that-supports-terrorists/159836/10 "2003-03-08T03:16:59Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by World Eater \*  
> \*\*Just link him to the 50,000 other SUV hater threads. \*\*

Well, I’m just having fun with this one.

If I get bored I might go into the 50,000 threads, but I’m not that bored yet. 🙂

And an update:

Giving up your parking spot in front of your house to a neighbor’s Honda that can’t make it up the alley OR up the street and then helping them push it into the parking space and offering to help them out in the morning:

NO CHARGE

But I think all my neighbors with little cars are home now.

Whistlepig

But seriously, folks. We’ve had a huge snowstorm. I will probably call some friends in the morning to see if they need help getting out of their house and then spend a couple of hours helping my non-4x4 neighbors. The plows will only get the major streets tomorrow. On our dead-end street, we never get plows.

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### Author: ![Rhum\_Runner](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@Rhum\_Runner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rhum_Runner)
#### Post date: [March 8, 2003, 3:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-price-of-owning-vehicle-that-supports-terrorists/159836/11 "2003-03-08T03:31:59Z")

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I’d like to point out that you have a pickup, not an SUV. I, on the other hand, drive an SUV. A 4x4 2-door GMC Yukon with a 350 small block. I get 14 mpg coasting down hill in neutral with the wind at my back. I love that thing.

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### Author: ![Dr\_Paprika](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr_paprika/32/3042_2.png) [@Dr\_Paprika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Paprika)
#### Post date: [March 8, 2003, 4:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-price-of-owning-vehicle-that-supports-terrorists/159836/12 "2003-03-08T04:07:33Z")

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Charge for putting up with piddly Americans who cry because they get (gasp) FOUR inches of snow (since 5pm)

$73.58

You may pay in U.S. Dollars.

Charge for using your SUV to shovel neighbour’s car out of snow

ETERNAL DAMNATION!!! Bwahahahaha! For your wife’s soul, we’ll throw in a spoiler.

Sod off

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### Author: ![Turbo\_Dog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ce73a5/32.png) [@Turbo\_Dog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Turbo_Dog)
#### Post date: [March 8, 2003, 4:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-price-of-owning-vehicle-that-supports-terrorists/159836/13 "2003-03-08T04:20:02Z")

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Last three snowstorms we’ve had, while driving to work in my little front wheel drive, every vehicle I saw in the ditches were 4WD. They come out of the gates and run good on slick asphalt, but have no advantage for stopping. Too many people forget that. Brakes is brakes, no matter what you have a driveshaft hooked up to.

Anyways, if you drive or ride anything that uses gas, you support the evil guys. Maybe less than the heinous pigs that drive SUV’s, but you still do.

I’m so sick of the anti-SUV shit. If you have nothing in your life to complain about, cry about SUV’s. Make a statement that means absolutely dick.

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### Author: ![whistlepig](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/73ab20/32.png) [@whistlepig](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/whistlepig)
#### Post date: [March 8, 2003, 4:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-price-of-owning-vehicle-that-supports-terrorists/159836/14 "2003-03-08T04:21:17Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by Dr\_Paprika \*  
> \*\*Charge for putting up with piddly Americans who cry because they get (gasp) FOUR inches of snow (since 5pm)
> 
> $73.58
> 
> You may pay in U.S. Dollars.
> 
> Charge for using your SUV to shovel neighbour’s car out of snow
> 
> ETERNAL DAMNATION!!! Bwahahahaha! For your wife’s soul, we’ll throw in a spoiler.
> 
> [spoiler]
> 
> Sod off
> 
> [/spoiler] \*\*

Actually, in Canadian dollars that would be about $16.43.

But I like your country. I’d move there except for the fact that it never gets above 70 degrees(F).

And our women like your dollar bills. About 20-30 of them rolled up makes a pretty good tampon.

BTW, we’ve had about 20 inches of snow in the last 24 hours. That translates out to about 1,274 millimeters.

We understand that you Canadians use the millimeter measurement because 5 inches = 754 millimeters. It just sounds bigger.  
🙂  
Whistlepig

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### Author: ![butter\_pie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/aca169/32.png) [@butter\_pie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/butter_pie)
#### Post date: [March 8, 2003, 5:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-price-of-owning-vehicle-that-supports-terrorists/159836/15 "2003-03-08T05:39:10Z")

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Snow…? What is this snow of which you speak…?

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### Author: ![friedo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8edcca/32.png) [@friedo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/friedo)
#### Post date: [March 8, 2003, 5:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-price-of-owning-vehicle-that-supports-terrorists/159836/16 "2003-03-08T05:45:15Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by whistlepig \*  
> We understand that you Canadians use the millimeter measurement because 5 inches = 754 millimeters. It just sounds bigger.

Five inches is about 127 milimeters, actually.

[sub]Cost of **friedo** whipping out conversion factors he memorized in fifth grade: priceless. :)[/sub]

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### Author: ![Enderw24](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ba9def/32.png) [@Enderw24](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enderw24)
#### Post date: [March 8, 2003, 6:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-price-of-owning-vehicle-that-supports-terrorists/159836/17 "2003-03-08T06:21:09Z")

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My car gets forty rods to the hogshead, and that’s the way I likes it!

Kansas went from a subzero ice storm to t-shirt weather in 48 hours. I wonder what kind of car is best for that.

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### Author: ![UncleBeer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/977dab/32.png) [@UncleBeer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UncleBeer)
#### Post date: [March 8, 2003, 1:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-price-of-owning-vehicle-that-supports-terrorists/159836/18 "2003-03-08T13:41:11Z")

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Hovercraft.

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### Author: ![Desmostylus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c57346/32.png) [@Desmostylus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Desmostylus)
#### Post date: [March 8, 2003, 2:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-price-of-owning-vehicle-that-supports-terrorists/159836/19 "2003-03-08T14:00:02Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by UncleBeer \*  
> \*\*Hovercraft. \*\*

Well, maybe. But _my_ hovercraft is full of eels.

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### Author: ![E-Sabbath](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e19adc/32.png) [@E-Sabbath](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-Sabbath)
#### Post date: [March 8, 2003, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-price-of-owning-vehicle-that-supports-terrorists/159836/20 "2003-03-08T16:17:36Z")

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Sixteen inches? Feh. Got that two weeks ago. Light entertainment. Was on the road that day.

Owning a Beetle and knowing how to drive it: $750/Skip Barber course.

Watching people in SUVs slide off the road: Priceless.

Nothing wrong in a SUV… the thing is, it’s not about the car, it’s about the _driver_.

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