# The Problem with Planes **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [June 21, 2011, 3:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-problem-with-planes/586244 "2011-06-21T03:37:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 5\ **Page:** 22
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2011, 3:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-problem-with-planes/586244/421 "2011-06-24T03:44:34Z")
> [@jamiemcgarry](#): > > What I am suggesting is some sort of system (that may even be too strong of a word) that allowed some realistic flexibility (which a competent attendant is more than capable of exerting) when a significantly less-disabled passenger happens to need to use the chair. I just called the airlines and asked about this new “system” idea. They don’t wanna. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2011, 3:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-problem-with-planes/586244/422 "2011-06-24T03:54:42Z")
I am perfectly capable of opening up my own can of soda or beer and pouring it into a little plastic cup, but I don’t throw a childish hissy fit when they do it because that is their job and they would get in trouble if they just rolled that cart halfway down the aisle and said, “help yourselves!” When they buckle you into that chair _properly_, they are doing their job, and they do _not_ have the prerogative to let you do a crappy job of it just because their isn’t enough room on that chair for you and your ego. ---
**Author:** ![Ambivalid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a5b964/32.png) [@Ambivalid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambivalid)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2011, 4:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-problem-with-planes/586244/423 "2011-06-24T04:02:40Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > I am perfectly capable of opening up my own can of soda or beer and pouring it into a little plastic cup, but I don’t throw a childish hissy fit when they do it because that is their job and they would get in trouble if they just rolled that cart halfway down the aisle and said, “help yourselves!” When they buckle you into that chair _properly_, they are doing their job, and they do _not_ have the prerogative to let you do a crappy job of it just because their isn’t enough room on that chair for you and your ego. Huh? Who are you talking to here? Because it’s clearly not me. What you are describing at the outset of your post is called “being a served a drink”. Not apropo to this situation WHATSOEVER. And I know the rules that are in place now. It’s like you willfully ignore everything I say so you can make you little points. I am PROPOSING a little flexibility be allowed on the part of the attendant when it comes to significantly less-disabled passengers who do not wish to be fastened in with ALL the safety belts (which are in place to meet the safety needs of the absolutely most disabled passengers). This, IMO, is perfectly reasonable and I feel like alot of the people here are more interested in arguing and disagreeing with me than acknowledging this. Not everyone, but many. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2011, 4:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-problem-with-planes/586244/424 "2011-06-24T04:20:59Z")
> [@jamiemcgarry](#): > > I am PROPOSING a little flexibility be allowed on the part of the attendant when it comes to significantly less-disabled passengers who do not wish to be fastened in with ALL the safety belts (which are in place to meet the safety needs of the absolutely most disabled passengers). This, IMO, is perfectly reasonable and I feel like alot of the people here are more interested in arguing and disagreeing with me than acknowledging this. Not everyone, but many. I propose some flight attendants might let themselves get talked into using fewer straps, if they were willing to risk their jobs for it. ---
**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2011, 4:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-problem-with-planes/586244/425 "2011-06-24T04:27:29Z")
> [@jamiemcgarry](#): > > At this point, if I haven’t made my issues clear then it’s a moot point. I agree. And since this thread has been little more than “_Is too._”/“_Is not._” (veering very close to “_Uh, huh._”/“_Nuh, uh._”) but with lots of snide remarks, for days, I am going to put it out of my misery. Further discussions may be carried out if posters can find a way to start the conversation afresh, (although I suspect that The BBQ Pit will be a better home, regardless), but this thread is closed. [/Moderating] [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-problem-with-planes/586244.md?page=21)