# The propaganda around the Russian ship Moskva

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**Created:** [April 14, 2022, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-propaganda-around-the-russian-ship-moskva/962833 "2022-04-14T18:33:59Z")\
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**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2022, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-propaganda-around-the-russian-ship-moskva/962833/41 "2022-04-15T01:00:50Z")

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Also, somewhat inevitably over the past 30-some years, anyone in Russia aware of navy issues would have a kind of low expectation of the condition of the fleet. See elsewhere on this site: [Kuznetsov saga](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russian-dry-dock-sinks-with-aircraft-carrier-inside/824064/6). Or for something far more tragic and horrifying remember the [Kursk](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kursk_submarine_disaster). So hearing that one of the vessels while actively engaged in war operations had a major malfunction that left it a total write-off is not as “shameful” as, like **HMS\_Irruncible** mentions, being got the better of by those bloody peasants.

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