# The proposed Jerome Ersland Act

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-proposed-jerome-ersland-act/568947>\
**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [January 25, 2011, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-proposed-jerome-ersland-act/568947 "2011-01-25T19:01:32Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 5\
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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2011, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-proposed-jerome-ersland-act/568947/121 "2011-05-28T01:08:13Z")

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> When dealing with an armed robber in my store or home i am of the firm belief that still living = still a threat.

Enjoy prison, then?

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**Author:** ![YogSothoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/8edcca/32.png) [@YogSothoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YogSothoth)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2011, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-proposed-jerome-ersland-act/568947/122 "2011-05-28T02:45:30Z")

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> [@DigitalC](#):
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> When dealing with an armed robber in my store or home i am of the firm belief that still living = still a threat.

You’d be wrong.

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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2011, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-proposed-jerome-ersland-act/568947/123 "2011-05-28T02:55:00Z")

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> [@Fedup](#):
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> Why are so many worried about a person who doesn’t even have any respect for the law?

Because if someone who “doesn’t even have any respect for the law” does not fall under the protection of the law, then anyone who wishes to ignore the law can simply slap that label on you. It’s a very old trick; create such a label, like “enemy of the state” or “unlawful enemy combatant” and suddenly they have no rights.

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**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2011, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-proposed-jerome-ersland-act/568947/124 "2011-05-28T03:13:11Z")

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> [@Frank](#):
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> [Murderer.](http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5giPhLJBZy4EzCcag_d3kSWDiYxrg?docId=830ae02df40f4d86a24792d565d4cd1c)
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> And the jury agreed. Good. I’m pleased with this verdict.

Good.

What became of the OP’s Act however ? Is it in the books now or what ?

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2011, 4:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-proposed-jerome-ersland-act/568947/125 "2011-05-28T04:09:51Z")

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> [@Kobal2](#):
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> Good.
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> What became of the OP’s Act however ? Is it in the books now or what ?

AFAIK it is still just a proposal. The latest news I can find on it is a brief mention in [this article](http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702303654804576347891729253696.html?mod=googlenews_wsj) about the trial:

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> Earlier this year, Ralph Shortey, a state senator who represents the area, introduced the “Jerome Ersland Act,” which would increase protections for citizens who kill or wound someone in the course of protecting themselves.

I’ve never seen anything about it passing any vote, not even a committee vote.

ETA: The thing that’s really funny about the proposed act is that it wouldn’t protect Mr. Ersland’s actions. The videotape shows that he was no longer protecting himself or anyone else, he was executing someone.

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