# The Queen's Speech

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-queens-speech/832699>\
**Category:** Factual Questions\
**Created:** [April 17, 2019, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-queens-speech/832699 "2019-04-17T23:01:11Z")\
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**Author:** ![PatrickLondon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/patricklondon/32/4422_2.png) [@PatrickLondon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PatrickLondon)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2019, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-queens-speech/832699/61 "2019-04-24T17:41:46Z")

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> [@Wrenching\_Spanners](#):
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> David Cameron was heard stating that the Queen “purred like a kitten” when Cameron called to tell her the result of the vote.

Indeed, but that might indicate little more than a distaste for dramatic and radical change, which would hardly be surprising.

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**Author:** ![Wrenching\_Spanners](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/ecb155/32.png) [@Wrenching\_Spanners](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wrenching_Spanners)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2019, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-queens-speech/832699/62 "2019-04-29T14:49:58Z")

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Queen’s Speech to be delayed until Brexit delivered, according to Theresa May spokesman.

> **[Queen’s Speech to be delayed until Brexit is delivered](https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/queens-speech-delay-brexit-extension-theresa-may-parliament-commons-a8891006.html)**
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> Brexiteer Tories could vote down a Queen's Speech – to bury the withdrawal deal they hate – and accelerate prime minister's departure

The Independent reckons May is afraid to face a confidence vote in government,

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**Author:** ![Gorsnak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gorsnak/32/7587_2.png) [@Gorsnak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gorsnak)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2019, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-queens-speech/832699/63 "2019-04-29T17:13:11Z")

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The mere fact that these Brexit votes aren’t all matters of confidence continues to blow my mind. I know, I know, the fixed elections legislation blah blah. Still. Utterly ridiculous that an issue as critical to this isn’t automatically a matter of confidence.

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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2019, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-queens-speech/832699/64 "2019-04-30T01:12:51Z")

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I know. It just makes no sense to me. The Tories should have been out on their ears as soon as the Withdrawal Agreement was defeated the first time.

But the two are connected. Since a defeat on this measure wasn’t a confidence measure, party discipline is destroyed, and May can’t count on support from anyone. If the Agreement had been a confidence measure, it would have forced Tory MPs either to vote for it, or accept the consequence of defeating the government and going to the polls.

Instead, the hard-line Brexiteers and the Remainers in the Tory party can both vote against the Agreement, knowing there are no consequences.

The change to the confidence rule has contributed to the political stalemate.

David Cameron has much to answer for.

This Brexit mess is the perfect rebuttal to anyone in Canada who argues that party discipline should be weakened.

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