# The race for most hated president ever! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 4, 2005, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-race-for-most-hated-president-ever/329503 "2005-11-04T17:17:33Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![The\_Hamster\_King](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8edcca/32.png) [@The\_Hamster\_King](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Hamster_King)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2005, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-race-for-most-hated-president-ever/329503/1 "2005-11-04T17:17:33Z")
[Bush vs. Nixon](http://www.tinyrevolution.com/mt/archives/000682.html) Bush was winning until August when Nixon nosed ahead. Can Bush regain his lead? The crowd is going wild … ! ---
**Author:** ![Casey1505](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/dc4da7/32.png) [@Casey1505](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Casey1505)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2005, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-race-for-most-hated-president-ever/329503/2 "2005-11-04T17:28:21Z")
I’m not sure I’m reading it correctly. That huge spike for Bush is post 9/11? ---
**Author:** ![The\_Hamster\_King](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8edcca/32.png) [@The\_Hamster\_King](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Hamster_King)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2005, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-race-for-most-hated-president-ever/329503/3 "2005-11-04T17:32:35Z")
Bush has three spikes of decreasing magnitude: 9-11, the start of the Iraq War, and the capture of Saddam Hussein. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2005, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-race-for-most-hated-president-ever/329503/4 "2005-11-04T17:48:22Z")
Pretty tough. For about 8 years, I hated RMN with every fiber of my being, and I ate lots of fiber. But for some reason I’ve yet to understand, I had an specially virulent loathing for Edwin Meese, a hatred the extended to his wife, his daughters…indeed, the entire clan! You could say I hates Meeses to pieces. You could. ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2005, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-race-for-most-hated-president-ever/329503/5 "2005-11-04T17:52:02Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > Pretty tough. For about 8 years, I hated RMN with every fiber of my being, and I ate lots of fiber. Only 8 years? Slacker. ---
**Author:** ![vetbridge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b5e925/32.png) [@vetbridge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vetbridge)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2005, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-race-for-most-hated-president-ever/329503/6 "2005-11-04T17:55:02Z")
> [@Pochacco](#): > > Nixon nosed ahead. Nixon nosing ahead = Landslide. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Bob\_Loblaw\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4af34b/32.png) [@Bob\_Loblaw\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bob_Loblaw_1)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2005, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-race-for-most-hated-president-ever/329503/7 "2005-11-04T17:59:48Z")
Oh jeez people, Bush is so fucking repugnant that by comparison he actually makes me admire Nixon. Nixon was intelligent, he only lied most of the time, he actually cared about middle class people, he wasn’t a coward personally. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2005, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-race-for-most-hated-president-ever/329503/8 "2005-11-04T18:00:45Z")
> [@Bob Loblaw](#): > > Oh jeez people, Bush is so fucking repugnant that by comparison he actually makes me admire Nixon. Nixon was intelligent, he only lied most of the time, he actually cared about middle class people, he wasn’t a coward personally. Yep, I also think he had the more honest thieving VP. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2005, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-race-for-most-hated-president-ever/329503/9 "2005-11-04T18:05:30Z")
The nattering nabobs of _nolo contendere_ ---
**Author:** ![Bob\_Loblaw\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4af34b/32.png) [@Bob\_Loblaw\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bob_Loblaw_1)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2005, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-race-for-most-hated-president-ever/329503/10 "2005-11-04T18:10:57Z")
> [@jrfranchi](#): > > Yep, I also think he had the more honest thieving VP. And the sad part is we aren’t being sarcastic. It used to be the law and press were powerful enough to remove SOBs like that from office. Nowadays, the law and press have no influence at all against evil. Heck, the press is evil. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2005, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-race-for-most-hated-president-ever/329503/11 "2005-11-04T18:26:25Z")
> [@Bob Loblaw](#): > > And the sad part is we aren’t being sarcastic. It used to be the law and press were powerful enough to remove SOBs like that from office. Nowadays, the law and press have no influence at all against evil. Heck, the press is evil. You are correct. I was serious. Cheney is evil incarnate to me and the power behind the throne. Jim ---
**Author:** ![Bob\_Loblaw\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4af34b/32.png) [@Bob\_Loblaw\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bob_Loblaw_1)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2005, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-race-for-most-hated-president-ever/329503/12 "2005-11-04T18:32:32Z")
> [@jrfranchi](#): > > You are correct. I was serious. Cheney is evil incarnate to me and the power behind the throne. > > Jim By they aren’t as evil as Hitler and Himmler (or vice versa), that’s just an irresponsible exaggeration! ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2005, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-race-for-most-hated-president-ever/329503/13 "2005-11-04T18:42:11Z")
> [@Bob Loblaw](#): > > By they aren’t as evil as Hitler and Himmler (or vice versa), that’s just an irresponsible exaggeration! You are correct. I stand guilty of hyperbole. Would you accept the evilest politician I know of in the US government? Jim ---
**Author:** ![Birdmonster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/71e660/32.png) [@Birdmonster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Birdmonster)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2005, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-race-for-most-hated-president-ever/329503/14 "2005-11-04T19:33:17Z")
> [@jrfranchi](#): > > You are correct. I stand guilty of hyperbole. > Would you accept the evilest politician I know of in the US government? > > Jim I would. But you weren’t necessarily asking me. At least now that Strom Thurmond is gone. THERE was a winner. I guess Cheney has more power & can therefore enact more evil, whereas Thurmond was a bigot jackass, but just a senator. ---
**Author:** ![Birdmonster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/71e660/32.png) [@Birdmonster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Birdmonster)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2005, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-race-for-most-hated-president-ever/329503/15 "2005-11-04T19:36:20Z")
Which is to say that, even is Strom wanted to perpetrate more evil than Cheney, he wouldn’t have been able to, because of position. Strom, as a person, might have been a bit worse. He hated a giant chunk of America with staggering vitriol, while Cheney seems to be less hateful, but more insidious. ---
**Author:** ![Man\_With\_a\_Cat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/cab0a1/32.png) [@Man\_With\_a\_Cat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Man_With_a_Cat)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2005, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-race-for-most-hated-president-ever/329503/16 "2005-11-04T19:36:37Z")
'Scuse me. Wasn’t [Joe Mc Carthy](http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/USAmccarthy.htm) “just” a Senator? Not calling him evil necessarily, just pointing out that you can do a LOT of damage from there. ---
**Author:** ![Ponder\_Stibbons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ponder_stibbons/32/343_2.png) [@Ponder\_Stibbons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ponder_Stibbons)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2005, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-race-for-most-hated-president-ever/329503/17 "2005-11-04T19:43:35Z")
Pshaw. None of these johnnie-come-latelies was anywhere _near_ as evil as Andrew Jackson … Dubya may have the Supreme Court in his back pocket, but Andy basically told’em “you got an army? No? I didn’t think so.” and did whatever the hell he wanted. ---
**Author:** ![Birdmonster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/71e660/32.png) [@Birdmonster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Birdmonster)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2005, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-race-for-most-hated-president-ever/329503/18 "2005-11-04T19:47:45Z")
Yeah, I realized how ridiculous “just a senator” was when I wrote it. So shame on me. ---
**Author:** ![kidchameleon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/898d66/32.png) [@kidchameleon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kidchameleon)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2005, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-race-for-most-hated-president-ever/329503/19 "2005-11-04T19:54:44Z")
Since when is 56 years ‘ever’? Grover Cleveland escapes because they didn’t have polling in the 19th centruy. ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2005, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-race-for-most-hated-president-ever/329503/20 "2005-11-04T19:58:58Z")
> [@kidchameleon](#): > > Grover Cleveland escapes because they didn’t have polling in the 19th centruy. He couldn’t have been that bad - he got nominated by his party three straight elections, the third even after having lost as an incumbent. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-race-for-most-hated-president-ever/329503.md?page=2)