# The racist Tea Party is in love with Herman Cain **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [October 26, 2011, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-racist-tea-party-is-in-love-with-herman-cain/600876 "2011-10-26T16:57:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 14
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2011, 4:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-racist-tea-party-is-in-love-with-herman-cain/600876/262 "2011-10-30T04:12:50Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > Even though you’re only in high school, I expect you to realize that the use of the word “illegal” as other than an adjective _is reprehensible_, on account of the fact that its very existence in noun form is a device to permit people to regard other human beings as things. > [@magellan01](#): > > Says you. **I and many others it find it a helpful word.** I hope I’m on the right side of the “civility in GD” line when I invite readers to draw their own conclusions, then. ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2011, 4:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-racist-tea-party-is-in-love-with-herman-cain/600876/263 "2011-10-30T04:38:29Z")
That’s rich, coming from a poster who once declared that only evil people become Republicans. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2011, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-racist-tea-party-is-in-love-with-herman-cain/600876/264 "2011-10-30T18:07:03Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > I hope I’m on the right side of the “civility in GD” line when I invite readers to draw their own conclusions, then. Heavens! Me, too. But I think the support of the crowd—even the illegals, should they be posters—is probably more important to you. ---
**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2011, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-racist-tea-party-is-in-love-with-herman-cain/600876/265 "2011-10-30T18:10:15Z")
> [@Lobohan](#): > > Oh he’s certainly not very smart. I imagine he worked very, very hard to pass his classes. He’s charismatic, to crowds that don’t value intelligence, like Republicans. He’s likely a strong worker. But he doesn’t even have the grit to educate himself on the basic elements of political knowledge necessary to run for president. > > He doesn’t know what a neocon is. He doesn’t understand that he’s actually pro-choice, so he fumbles like a child caught sneaking a cookie when asked. He doesn’t understand his own taxation program. His foreign policy notions are childish and cartoony. > > Do I think he’s subnormal, probably not. But he’s certainly not sharp. Hard work and luck and charisma can lead to success. And in his case it did. Good for him. But he isn’t qualified to run the country. So, you think that he could, either through intellect or sheer will power, get to the point to earn a degree in mathematics and an advanced degree in computer science, then work as a ballistic expert, then change careers completely and succeed as a CEO, but that he is simply unable to grasp what he needs to hold office? That seems to be the opposite of likely to me. ---
**Author:** ![Zeriel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/58956e/32.png) [@Zeriel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeriel)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2011, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-racist-tea-party-is-in-love-with-herman-cain/600876/266 "2011-10-30T18:51:19Z")
> [@magellan01](#): > > So, you think that he could, either through intellect or sheer will power, get to the point to earn a degree in mathematics and an advanced degree in computer science, then work as a ballistic expert, then change careers completely and succeed as a CEO, but that he is simply unable to grasp what he needs to hold office? That seems to be the opposite of likely to me. “Being an effective politician” is a skill set that’s almost entirely unrelated to “degree in computer science” or “ballistics expert”. It can have SOME congruence with “CEO”, but see Carly Fiorina for a demonstration that isn’t always true. ---
**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2011, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-racist-tea-party-is-in-love-with-herman-cain/600876/267 "2011-10-30T19:04:36Z")
> [@Zeriel](#): > > “Being an effective politician” is a skill set that’s almost entirely unrelated to “degree in computer science” or “ballistics expert”. It can have SOME congruence with “CEO”, but see Carly Fiorina for a demonstration that isn’t always true. Oh, I agree with that 100%. But in cases like that the problem is certainly not “intellect”, as was claimed. ---
**Author:** ![CandidGamera](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/candidgamera/32/2878_2.png) [@CandidGamera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CandidGamera)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2011, 1:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-racist-tea-party-is-in-love-with-herman-cain/600876/268 "2011-10-31T13:34:20Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > But the combination isn’t any stronger when the same alternate explanation vitiates both elements. > > In other words, you seem to say, “Yeah, your explanation flies if it were just one question, but it was TWO questions!” > > But – my explanation is the same for both questions. If it’s true for one, why wouldn’t it be true for both? > > And I think they can resent affirmative action without hating anyone. It doesn’t vitiate the ‘Who do you think is more likely to get ahead’ question’. If you think black people are more likely to get ahead in our society, even accounting for affirmative action, you have a serious disconnection with the facts that indicates a warped view of reality. ---
**Author:** ![CandidGamera](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/candidgamera/32/2878_2.png) [@CandidGamera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CandidGamera)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2011, 1:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-racist-tea-party-is-in-love-with-herman-cain/600876/269 "2011-10-31T13:40:48Z")
> [@CandidGamera](#): > > It doesn’t vitiate the ‘Who do you think is more likely to get ahead’ question’. If you think black people are more likely to get ahead in our society, even accounting for affirmative action, you have a serious disconnection with the facts that indicates a warped view of reality. Missed the edit window, I guess. I thought I was within it.. I see someone has linked another study with a more explicit set of questions, so further argument would be moot. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-racist-tea-party-is-in-love-with-herman-cain/600876.md?page=13)