# The Rasta vs. Homosexuality (kinda long) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 20, 2002, 4:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-rasta-vs-homosexuality-kinda-long/99157 "2002-03-20T04:11:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 10\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Efrem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@Efrem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Efrem)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2002, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-rasta-vs-homosexuality-kinda-long/99157/21 "2002-03-22T18:39:33Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by fippo \* > \*\*Hmmm…your ideas are interesting and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter. Do you possibly have a book reccomendation with this information? Much thanks! Thanks to everyone else who came through with links to studies! > Oops, this is the pit and I haven’t really taken advantage of it. I love the lot of you goat-felching, shit-raping corpse-eaters! Wait, something’s still not right… \*\* I don’t realy know any books that deal with the errors of Rasta beliefs, but what I know comes from my (vast) knowledge of Eritrean and Ethiopian history. To explain it all (Ethiopian history and Rastafarian beliefs) would be very time consuming. so I will just give you the bio of Tafari. Haile Selassie was born Tafari Makonnen to Ras (Prince) Makonnen. Tafari (at the age of 13) was appointed governor of one of the regions of Harer Province, by his father. Upon his father’s death the following year, Tafari was summoned to the court of Emperor Menelik (king of Ethiopia), who appointed him the governor of a small province. Upon Menelik’s death in 1913, his grandson Lij Iyasu became emperor. Iyasu, however, was considered too sympathetic toward Islam (he was of thin blood relative to Mohammed) by the Amhara(ruling ethnic class) Orthodox Christian priests, and they wanted someone who was a “good Christian”. So, in 1916 Tafari and his supporters deposed (imprisoned and then killed) Iyasu (rightful heir to the throne ) and installed Menelik’s daughter, Zawditu, with Tafari ruling through her. After that Tafari assumed the title of “Ras” (Ras Tafari) for himself and served as her regent and heir apparent. Upon Zawditu’s (mysterious and questionable) death in 1930, Tafari assumed the throne under his baptismal name, Haile Selassie I. That was how he came into power, through murder and deceit. What was fitting was how he was taken out of power. In 1952 Selassie’s government annexed the province of Eritrea to provide Ethiopia with an outlet to the sea. In 1962 the province of Eritrea sought independence from Ethiopia and Eritrean rebels took up armed struggle. The educated elite, seeking democratic reforms and jobs, began to demonstrate to demand change. A student protest in 1969 ended when soldiers opened fire, killing 23 and wounding 157. Continuing economic problems, high unemployment, and famine caused by prolonged drought led Ethiopians to demonstrate for higher wages and against the continuing economic woes. A military contingent led by junior officers deposed Selassie on September 12, 1974, after a gradual, bloodless coup. Selassie stepped down and was held under house arrest until his own (very mysterious and questionable) death on August 27, 1975. His remains was now found a few years ago under a palace toilet. He was a despot who ruled with an iron fist (well a lose iron fist), and that is why his own people got rid of him. The only problem was that the people who replaced him and set up a new anti-Monarchy, pro-Communist government were ten times as cruel as Tafari (you never win). ---
**Author:** ![lissener](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lissener/32/6139_2.png) [@lissener](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lissener)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2002, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-rasta-vs-homosexuality-kinda-long/99157/22 "2002-03-22T19:20:45Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Vic Ferrari \* > \*\* > This is an interesting study, thanks for informing me of it’s existence. I think you guys are being a little misleading, though. By failing to acknowledge that [anxiety](http://www.apa.org/releases/homophob.html) may have been responsible for the reaction of the homophobic group you imply that repressed homosexual urges are the only explanation. Shame on you! 🙂 \*\* Um, anxiety causes erections? ---
**Author:** ![HeyHomie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/heyhomie/32/207_2.png) [@HeyHomie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HeyHomie)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2002, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-rasta-vs-homosexuality-kinda-long/99157/23 "2002-03-22T19:40:08Z")
Just for the record, the OP is NOT talking about ME. You can go about your business. Move along… ---
**Author:** ![Eve](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Eve](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eve)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2002, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-rasta-vs-homosexuality-kinda-long/99157/24 "2002-03-22T19:47:37Z")
“I love the lot of you goat-felching, shit-raping corpse-eaters! Wait, something’s still not right…” —Goodness. It has been fully explained to me here how one felches a goat. And corpse-eating is self-explanatory. But HOW in the world does one rape shit? ---
**Author:** ![Vic\_Ferrari](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/dbc845/32.png) [@Vic\_Ferrari](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Vic_Ferrari)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2002, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-rasta-vs-homosexuality-kinda-long/99157/25 "2002-03-22T20:01:28Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by lissener \* > \*\*Um, anxiety causes erections? \*\* Well I ain’t no fancy psychologist, and I’ve never noticed it personally, but according to the American Psychological Association [article that I linked to above](http://www.apa.org/releases/homophob.html) : > [@](#): > > Do these findings mean, then, that homophobia in men is a reaction to repressed homosexual urges, as psychoanalysis theorizes? While their findings are consistent with that theory, the authors note that there is another, competing theoretical explanation: anxiety. According to this theory, viewing the male homosexual videotape may have caused negative emotions (such as anxiety) in the homophobic men, but not in the nonhomophobic men. As the authors note, **‘anxiety has been shown to enhance arousal and erection,’** and so it is also possible that ‘a response to homosexual stimuli [in these men] is a function of the threat condition rather than sexual arousal per se. These competing notions can and should be evaluated by future research.’ ---
**Author:** ![auntie\_em](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5e9695/32.png) [@auntie\_em](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/auntie_em)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2002, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-rasta-vs-homosexuality-kinda-long/99157/26 "2002-03-22T20:04:51Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by John Corrado \* > \*\* > Only the homosexual men showed an increase in penile erection to male homosexual stimuli. > \*\* OK, small point, but I’m a little confused… Was the above quote supposed to say, “Only the homo_phobic_ men showed an increase…”? Because otherwise, well… DUH. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![auntie\_em](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5e9695/32.png) [@auntie\_em](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/auntie_em)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2002, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-rasta-vs-homosexuality-kinda-long/99157/27 "2002-03-22T20:06:51Z")
OK, nevermind. I’m a little late to the party–sorry! ---
**Author:** ![Polycarp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/82dd89/32.png) [@Polycarp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Polycarp)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2002, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-rasta-vs-homosexuality-kinda-long/99157/28 "2002-03-22T20:11:56Z")
> [@](#): > > It has been fully explained to me here how one felches a goat. And corpse-eating is self-explanatory. But HOW in the world does one rape shit? Well, as a rule it **is** incapable of giving consent… ---
**Author:** ![Tamerlane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tamerlane/32/7602_2.png) [@Tamerlane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tamerlane)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2002, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-rasta-vs-homosexuality-kinda-long/99157/29 "2002-03-22T20:56:10Z")
**fippo** : Just to add to what **efrem** said, the descent from Solomon thing comes from the 13th century ruler Yekuno Amlak, who overthrew the last Emperor of the Zagwe dynasty **efrem** mentioned. As part of consolidating his political gains as a usurper, especially among the uneasy Tigreans, he concocted a fable about descent from King Solomon to give himself legitimacy. The previous dynasty of the Zagwes were also considered usurpers by the church and had used the same tact, only with Moses in the place of Solomon. You could start with **A History of Ethiopia** by Harold G. Marcus (1994, University of California Press ), which is probably the most accessible general history. - Tamerlane ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2002, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-rasta-vs-homosexuality-kinda-long/99157/30 "2002-03-23T18:46:25Z")
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