# The REAL reason to deport immigrants... **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [February 24, 2017, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-real-reason-to-deport-immigrants/780643 "2017-02-24T17:27:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 2\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2017, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-real-reason-to-deport-immigrants/780643/61 "2017-02-27T21:38:06Z")
> [@2Bits](#): > > So who do we expect to see working in our meat packing plants? [These guys.](http://www.everythingdoormats.com/images/products/green-bay-packers-nfl-roundel-area-rug.jpg) Presumably during the off-season. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2017, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-real-reason-to-deport-immigrants/780643/62 "2017-02-27T21:43:19Z")
> [@Corry\_El](#): > > The first claim is obvious I think, that most low skilled immigrants don’t work in agriculture. > > As to the effect on low skilled immigrants on low skilled wages, that has a potentially significant political ramification so like most such things there are dueling statistics and a secondary debate about which are ‘un-biased’. On one had I don’t want to answer ‘Google it yourself’ but OTOH I don’t see the point of citing studies which have found a significant negative effect on low skilled native wages from low skilled immigrants when others haven’t. The general consensus of meta-studies is ‘clusters around zero’ but a lot of underlying studies are looking at the general effect, not particularly on low skilled people. And goes back to what I’ve said twice: the overall macroeconomic effect of low skilled immigration on the US economy is marginal. > > But back to the end of my post you didn’t quote, IMO a good starting point for immigration debates is deciding where the burden of proof should be. It seems clear to me people who want to ignore existing laws should be the ones proving extraordinary benefit from doing so or extraordinary harm if the law is enforced. The ground is more neutral overall when it comes to proposing changing the law. But if low skilled native worker/voters believe in their own experience low skilled immigrants hurt them economically, do they really have to prove it? It’s probably true for some people even if it’s not in the overall category ‘low skilled’, and again I believe marginal either way at the scope of ‘overall workforce’. Why should people use their vote to let lots more low skilled people into the country if it’s not a clear benefit to them? And you’d have trouble finding a study which claimed that for lower skilled US natives. So, then you have no cite? [https://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/22/us/immigrants-arent-taking-americans-jobs-new-study-finds.html?\_r=0](https://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/22/us/immigrants-arent-taking-americans-jobs-new-study-finds.html?_r=0) \*The answer, according to a report published on Wednesday by the National Academies of Sciences, Engineering and Medicine, is no, immigrants do not take American jobs — but with some caveats…The report assembles research from 14 leading economists, demographers and other scholars, including some, like Marta Tienda of Princeton, who write favorably about the impacts of immigration and others who are skeptical of its benefits, like George J. Borjas, a Harvard economist. Here’s what the report says: • “We found little to no negative effects on overall wages and employment of native-born workers in the longer term,” said Francine D. Blau, an economics professor at Cornell University who led the group that produced the 550-page report.\* > **[Immigrants Aren't Stealing American Jobs](https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/10/immigrants-arent-stealing-american-jobs/433158/)** > > More evidence surfaces that low-skilled native workers pursue different jobs than their immigrant counterparts. So, no real significant effects. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-real-reason-to-deport-immigrants/780643.md?page=3)