# The REAL victim in Charlottesville **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [August 23, 2017, 1:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-real-victim-in-charlottesville/794455 "2017-08-23T13:09:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Lucas\_Jackson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lucas_jackson/32/303_2.png) [@Lucas\_Jackson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lucas_Jackson)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2017, 1:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-real-victim-in-charlottesville/794455/1 "2017-08-23T13:09:52Z")
Is of course Trump himself. The gall. What a pompous ass. [https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vanityfair.com/news/2017/08/trump-goes-off-script-in-hour-long-public-meltdown/amp](https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vanityfair.com/news/2017/08/trump-goes-off-script-in-hour-long-public-meltdown/amp) ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2017, 2:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-real-victim-in-charlottesville/794455/2 "2017-08-23T14:10:43Z")
The little bit the OP chose to write is ranty and nothing else so I’m moving this to the Pit. ---
**Author:** ![HeweyLogan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/heweylogan/32/547_2.png) [@HeweyLogan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HeweyLogan)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2017, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-real-victim-in-charlottesville/794455/3 "2017-08-23T14:57:52Z")
I love that the article after the one quoted above is “Donald Trump’s Mansions and Saddam Hussein’s Palaces Are Basically the Same” OH MY GOD!!! TRUMP IS JUST LIKE SADDAM HUSSEIN!!! LOL. It doesn’t help much that they show a picture of essentially two grand staircase that… really don’t look alike. > **[Donald Trump’s Mansions and Saddam Hussein’s Palaces Are Basically the Same](https://www.vanityfair.com/news/photos/2016/03/donald-trump-mansions-saddam-hussein-palaces)** > > We couldn’t help but notice a striking similarity in the decorating palate of two demagogues: Donald Trump, the putative Republican nominee for president of the United States, and the late Saddam Hussein, the former president, prime minister, and... Thanks for the laugh Lucas. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2017, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-real-victim-in-charlottesville/794455/4 "2017-08-23T15:05:10Z")
> [@HeweyLogan](#): > > I love that the article after the one quoted above is “Donald Trump’s Mansions and Saddam Hussein’s Palaces Are Basically the Same” > > OH MY GOD!!! TRUMP IS JUST LIKE SADDAM HUSSEIN!!! > > LOL. > > It doesn’t help much that they show a picture of essentially two grand staircase that… really don’t look alike. > > [Donald Trump’s Mansions and Saddam Hussein’s Palaces Are Basically the | Vanity Fair](https://www.vanityfair.com/news/photos/2016/03/donald-trump-mansions-saddam-hussein-palaces) > > Thanks for the laugh Lucas. If Saddam Hussein was still alive, he’d be upset being compared to Trump. ---
**Author:** ![Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b487fb/32.png) [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walken_After_Midnight)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2017, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-real-victim-in-charlottesville/794455/5 "2017-08-23T15:17:05Z")
For the Donald, it’s always about the Donald. On Heather Heyer’s mother: > [@Donald J. Trump](#): > > In fact, the young woman, who I hear is a fantastic young woman, and it was on NBC, her mother wrote me and said through, I guess Twitter, social media, the nicest things. And I very much appreciated that. I hear she was a fine, really actually an incredible, young woman. But her mother on Twitter thanked me for what I said. > > And honestly, if the press were not fake, and if it was honest, the press would have said what I said was very nice. But unlike you — > > … > > I was very, I thought that the statement put out — the mother’s statement — I thought was a beautiful statement. I will tell you, it was something that I really appreciated. I thought it was terrific and really under the kind of stress that she’s under and the heartache that she’s under, I thought putting out that statement to me was really something I won’t forget. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2017, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-real-victim-in-charlottesville/794455/6 "2017-08-23T15:25:27Z")
Trump talks the way a seven year-old writes. ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2017, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-real-victim-in-charlottesville/794455/7 "2017-08-23T15:32:06Z")
And, of course, he conveniently omits the part where Heyer’s mother essentially [recanted](https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/18/us/politics/susan-bro-trump-heather-heyer.html?mcubz=1) her praise of him. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2017, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-real-victim-in-charlottesville/794455/8 "2017-08-23T16:08:30Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > Trump talks the way a seven year-old writes. And he thinks the way a toddler craps. ---
**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2017, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-real-victim-in-charlottesville/794455/9 "2017-08-23T16:19:53Z")
> [@HeweyLogan](#): > > I love that the article after the one quoted above is “Donald Trump’s Mansions and Saddam Hussein’s Palaces Are Basically the Same” > > OH MY GOD!!! TRUMP IS JUST LIKE SADDAM HUSSEIN!!! > > LOL. > > It doesn’t help much that they show a picture of essentially two grand staircase that… really don’t look alike. > > [Donald Trump’s Mansions and Saddam Hussein’s Palaces Are Basically the | Vanity Fair](https://www.vanityfair.com/news/photos/2016/03/donald-trump-mansions-saddam-hussein-palaces) > > Thanks for the laugh Lucas. No comment on the actual article, or about the fact that he made a woman’s death all about how HE had been treated? ---
**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2017, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-real-victim-in-charlottesville/794455/10 "2017-08-23T16:37:23Z")
> [@raventhief](#): > > No comment on the actual article, or about the fact that he made a woman’s death all about how HE had been treated? No comment on the actual article, or about the fact that he made a woman’s death all about how HE had been treated? Just snark at another poster? Ok. ---
**Author:** ![cmyk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyk/32/3353_2.png) [@cmyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmyk)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2017, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-real-victim-in-charlottesville/794455/11 "2017-08-23T17:18:24Z")
> [@raventhief](#): > > No comment on the actual article, or about the fact that he made a woman’s death all about how HE had been treated? > [@Drunky\_Smurf](#): > > No comment on the actual article, or about the fact that he made a woman’s death all about how HE had been treated? Just snark at another poster? Ok. Errr… ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2017, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-real-victim-in-charlottesville/794455/12 "2017-08-23T17:26:50Z")
> [@Drunky\_Smurf](#): > > No comment on the actual article, or about the fact that he made a woman’s death all about how HE had been treated? Just snark at another poster? Ok. What CAN be said? Trump is disgusting. Truly disgusting. A more self centered lying narcissistic piece of self absorbed shit has never existed. ---
**Author:** ![HeweyLogan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/heweylogan/32/547_2.png) [@HeweyLogan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HeweyLogan)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2017, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-real-victim-in-charlottesville/794455/13 "2017-08-23T17:40:28Z")
> [@raventhief](#): > > No comment on the actual article, or about the fact that he made a woman’s death all about how HE had been treated? > [@Drunky\_Smurf](#): > > No comment on the actual article, or about the fact that he made a woman’s death all about how HE had been treated? Just snark at another poster? Ok. Looks to me like Loach gave the poster more snark/grief than I did. I was just laughing at Vanity Fair and their choice of content to follow the article. It struck me as funny. Regarding the article itself, what’s to say, it was a pep rally. He bashed the press for not fully (according to him) reporting what he said, and the press responds back saying he sucks. Nothing new. And nothing really worth a comment on my end. Same old same old. The fact that a woman died in the confrontation doesn’t (in my book) mean ancillary talk about it is now off limits. ---
**Author:** ![Nawth\_Chucka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c57346/32.png) [@Nawth\_Chucka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nawth_Chucka)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2017, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-real-victim-in-charlottesville/794455/14 "2017-08-23T17:44:30Z")
> [@raventhief](#): > > No comment on the actual article, or about the fact that he made a woman’s death all about how HE had been treated? They’re just doing their job, give them a break! Their job is to be a shithead Trump supporter on the internet, but hey - it’s a job. ---
**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2017, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-real-victim-in-charlottesville/794455/15 "2017-08-23T18:33:32Z")
> [@raventhief](#): > > No comment on the actual article, or about the fact that he made a woman’s death all about how HE had been treated? I see the poster’s comment as being deft sarcasm, demonstrating how one uses this technique to divert attention from the subject at hand. People are now talking about him rather than Trump’s narcissistic screed vomited on the shag carpet of moral society. Or he’s just a jerk. It’s hard to tell. ---
**Author:** ![Filbert](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/filbert/32/3433_2.png) [@Filbert](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Filbert)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2017, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-real-victim-in-charlottesville/794455/16 "2017-08-23T19:00:12Z")
Well, at least he has the right hands to play the world’s smallest violin. ---
**Author:** ![E-DUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/e-dub/32/403_2.png) [@E-DUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-DUB)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2017, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-real-victim-in-charlottesville/794455/17 "2017-08-23T19:10:03Z")
Huey Logan wrote: “OH MY GOD!!! TRUMP IS JUST LIKE SADDAM HUSSEIN!!!” Have you ever seen them together? ---
**Author:** ![snoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/43a26b/32.png) [@snoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snoe)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2017, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-real-victim-in-charlottesville/794455/18 "2017-08-23T19:18:10Z")
> [@SteveG1](#): > > What CAN be said? \*Wovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muss man schweigen. **Translated** : Whereof one cannot speak, thereof one must be silent. (7) \*–Ludwig Wittgenstein ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2017, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-real-victim-in-charlottesville/794455/19 "2017-08-23T19:24:35Z")
Wittgenstein never heard of the Dope. ---
**Author:** ![Nawth\_Chucka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c57346/32.png) [@Nawth\_Chucka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nawth_Chucka)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2017, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-real-victim-in-charlottesville/794455/20 "2017-08-23T19:29:11Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > Wittgenstein never heard of the Dope. Do you suppose the REAL victim in Charlottesville has heard of Wittgenstein? [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-real-victim-in-charlottesville/794455.md?page=2)