# The Red Wings are pissing me off!

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [April 12, 2003, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-red-wings-are-pissing-me-off/168326 "2003-04-12T21:38:54Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2003, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-red-wings-are-pissing-me-off/168326/21 "2003-04-15T02:58:53Z")

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> \*Originally posted by look!ninjas \*  
> \*\*At least you aren’t freaking out like Chicago fans. I can’t believe they’re still booing Chelios. How many years has it been? \*\*

In all fairness, Chelios gets booed wherever he goes.

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**Author:** ![Blackeyes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/f6c823/32.png) [@Blackeyes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blackeyes)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2003, 3:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-red-wings-are-pissing-me-off/168326/22 "2003-04-15T03:02:58Z")

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They’re playin game 3 right now, let’s “hope” Detriot does better.

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**Author:** ![Madawc](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f08c70/32.png) [@Madawc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Madawc)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2003, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-red-wings-are-pissing-me-off/168326/23 "2003-04-15T03:04:45Z")

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Lets “hope” that they don’t. hehe

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**Author:** ![Harborwolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Harborwolf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harborwolf)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2003, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-red-wings-are-pissing-me-off/168326/24 "2003-04-15T03:29:16Z")

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Has anybody else noticed how big Guigeres chest pads are? They seem huge to me. Makes me feel stupid for thinking he was a good goaltender. He’s all equipment.

Also, if I may armchair coach a bit, I think the wings reliance on Zetterberg this year is biting them in the butt. The way the series is going, it looks like they need a hard checking, high energy player who will play the body and force turnovers. They had them in Boyd Devereaux (sp?), Jason Williams, or Sean Avery. Jiri Fischer would be good too.

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**Author:** ![Yeticus\_Rex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/a698b9/32.png) [@Yeticus\_Rex](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yeticus_Rex)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2003, 7:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-red-wings-are-pissing-me-off/168326/25 "2003-04-15T07:11:29Z")

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“Go Home Red Wings!” Clap…Clap…Clap,Clap,Clap…  
“Go Home Red Wings!” Clap…Clap…Clap,Clap,Clap…  
“Go Home Red Wings!” Clap…Clap…Clap,Clap,Clap…  
“Go Home Red Wings!” Clap…Clap…Clap,Clap,Clap…

Down 0-3! Two teams in history has come back from 0-3…  
Maple Leafs (1947) and NY Islanders (1972)…and it will REMAIN that way!

I relished the moment when the Kings took down the Wings two years ago, and I am relishing the Ducks taking down the Wings this year. Send the Wings golf clubs down to California so they don’t have to do a round trip to start their vacation…

“Let’s go golf fing!” Clap…Clap…Clap,Clap,Clap…

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**Author:** ![dead0man](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/edb3f5/32.png) [@dead0man](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dead0man)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2003, 8:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-red-wings-are-pissing-me-off/168326/26 "2003-04-15T08:27:29Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Mahaloth \*  
> \*\*A friend of mine who lived near(and frequently visited) St. Louis told me that St. Louis Blues fans believe there is a rivalry between the Wings and the Blues. I’ve told countless people who live in the Detroit area this and none of them have ever heard that St. Louis is a rival.
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> The rival everyone in Detroit believes the Wings have is the Avalanche.
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> Is this true? I’m not making fun at all; I just think it’s interesting if there is a rivalry that only one side knows about. In Detroit, we think of the St. Lous Blues as just being any other(quite good, actually) team. No rivalry, no particular feelings other than wanting them to lose when they play us.
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> If there is a rivalry we are unaware of, is it odd that Brett Hull joined our team? I know he one time said he would never join the Red Wings, but he has. Since we have no rivalry with the Blues here, we accepted him with open arms. Was there particular ill-will against him for joining the “rival”? \*\*

Growing up in the St.Louis area in the 70’s to mid 90s and being a Blues fan for most of it, I’d say our biggest rival for most of that would have been Chicago. On the other hand, we were all in the old Norris division which was noted for its rough and tumble play and heated rivalries. I was in the cheap seats at the old Arena for game 4 of the sweep of number 1 seeded Chicago in 1993 and the place went bonkers. We hate the Blackhawks, I’d say more than the Wings or the (North)Stars.  
Concerning Hull, at the end of his stay in St.Louis he wasn’t liked very much by the common fan. The fans were a lot more sore when his current team mate Brenden Shanahan left. Not at him though, at the coach/GM Keenan. I’d guess he(Shanahan) still gets cheered when he plays in St. Louis. Again, not to brag, but I was at the Keel his first night back in St.Louis when he was still with the Whalers(I actually drove up from Florida just to go to this game). We won the game, but the loudest cheer of the night (and the loudest I’ve ever heard at sporting event) was when Shanahan scored(a side note, Kelly Chase, another beloved former Blue was playing for the Whale then to, him and Tony Twist got in a fight. Great fight of course. They hugged when they were done. Funny part was, Twister was renting Chase’s house at the time). Yes, we miss Shanny, but you know who we got in return? Thats right, the best defensmen in the NHL.

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**Author:** ![jjimm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba8739/32.png) [@jjimm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jjimm)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2003, 10:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-red-wings-are-pissing-me-off/168326/27 "2003-04-15T10:04:43Z")

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“Red wings” means something entirely different in the UK.

“The Red Wings are pissing me off!” Heh heh.

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**Author:** ![Harborwolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Harborwolf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harborwolf)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2003, 10:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-red-wings-are-pissing-me-off/168326/28 "2003-04-15T10:05:47Z")

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but I thought Nick Lidstrom played for the wings:cool:

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**Author:** ![Wyld\_Stallyn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/8dc957/32.png) [@Wyld\_Stallyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wyld_Stallyn)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2003, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-red-wings-are-pissing-me-off/168326/29 "2003-04-15T13:53:48Z")

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Dammit, I was anticipating a finals with my beloved and heroic Devils against the aged and stupid Wings, just so we could embarrass CuJo some more (that’s why I’m rooting for the hated Flyers, because I enjoy watching Cechmanek choke, especially against the Devs). Once again, it comes down to who’s got the best playoff goalie, and once again, it looks like CuJo is not that man.

Secondly, anyone else amazed that the two 2OT games from last night ended within about 15 realtime seconds of each other? That was a key channel-recall button tap on my part to catch the Ottawa goal.

And, it looks like the Wild aren’t as awesome as we thought they were…

Eh, oh yeah, GO DEVILS!!!

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**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2003, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-red-wings-are-pissing-me-off/168326/30 "2003-04-15T14:38:38Z")

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> \*Originally posted by dead0man \*  
> \*\* The fans were a lot more sore when his current team mate Brenden Shanahan left. Not at him though, at the coach/GM Keenan. I’d guess he(Shanahan) still gets cheered when he plays in St. Louis. \*\*

Haven’t the fans in St. Louis forgiven Keenan yet? I mean it isn’t like he traded Shanahan for a bag of pucks and 2 broken sticks.

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**Author:** ![HalberMensch242](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ecb155/32.png) [@HalberMensch242](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HalberMensch242)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2003, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-red-wings-are-pissing-me-off/168326/31 "2003-04-15T20:09:42Z")

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I think the Blues/Wings rivalry was renewed after the 96 playoffs when yzerman won game 7 on that blue line slapper on Casey…i think a large majority of Blues fans are still really bitter about that series. Also, i think the Blues have faced the Wings 3 more times in the playoffs since that series, and we’ve lost each time…which also enriches the hatred and bitterness…

So in summary…i’d be as happy as a schoolgirl if the Ducks won game 4…

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**Author:** ![vl\_mungo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/bc8723/32.png) [@vl\_mungo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vl_mungo)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2003, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-red-wings-are-pissing-me-off/168326/32 "2003-04-15T21:46:26Z")

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The Wings are going hit the ground like a safe… just too bad it has to be at the hands of the “Mighty Ducks” (god I hate that name and the whole association of Disney with the NHL)

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**Author:** ![Yeticus\_Rex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/a698b9/32.png) [@Yeticus\_Rex](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yeticus_Rex)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2003, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-red-wings-are-pissing-me-off/168326/33 "2003-04-15T22:02:42Z")

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> \*Originally posted by vl\_mungo \*  
> \*\*The Wings are going hit the ground like a safe… just too bad it has to be at the hands of the “Mighty Ducks” (god I hate that name and the whole association of Disney with the NHL) \*\*

Kinda like the Angels taking out the A’s, huh?😃

GLORIOUS!🙂

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**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2003, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-red-wings-are-pissing-me-off/168326/34 "2003-04-16T03:42:20Z")

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I little trip down [Red Wings Memory Lane.](http://www.thetrolls.com/~steph/images/all_your_goals.gif)

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**Author:** ![Blackeyes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/f6c823/32.png) [@Blackeyes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blackeyes)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2003, 3:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-red-wings-are-pissing-me-off/168326/35 "2003-04-16T03:47:19Z")

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Devils knocked out the Bruins in a sweep of the series tonight. Who’s next, then?

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**Author:** ![Madawc](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f08c70/32.png) [@Madawc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Madawc)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2003, 4:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-red-wings-are-pissing-me-off/168326/36 "2003-04-16T04:42:50Z")

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devils and bruins are 3-1 in games… i think yahoo sports screwed up on their webpage

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**Author:** ![Blackeyes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/f6c823/32.png) [@Blackeyes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blackeyes)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2003, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-red-wings-are-pissing-me-off/168326/37 "2003-04-16T22:17:59Z")

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Gee, that’s funny. I was half-watching the game last night and I coulda sworn it was 5-1 Devils. Guess it was the tiny type and only half watching the game and I just assumed the Devils were in the lead. When I got back from dinner, the game was over and I figured the score must have been about the same as it was when I left. It didn’t help when a certain television channel told me the Devils made the first elimination of the playoffs.

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**Author:** ![The\_Universe\_Lashes\_Out](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8797f3/32.png) [@The\_Universe\_Lashes\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Universe_Lashes_Out)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2003, 5:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-red-wings-are-pissing-me-off/168326/38 "2003-04-17T05:20:44Z")

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You guys just missed my “Red Wings get swept in Round One by the Mighy Ducks” dance. It was pretty good.

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**Author:** ![Madawc](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f08c70/32.png) [@Madawc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Madawc)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2003, 5:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-red-wings-are-pissing-me-off/168326/39 "2003-04-17T05:32:01Z")

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Giggy for the Conn Smythe (playoff MVP)? even if he and the Ducks don’t go far. Man that’ll stick it to dumbass CuJo HAHAHA.

Damn Leafs gonna make it a seven gamer with Flyers. Oh the suspense!

Oh and where did “home-ice advantage” come from? Seems like it’s home-ice DISadvantage. Look at the Lightning and Caps. They all won on the road.

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**Author:** ![waddamaroon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/41988e/32.png) [@waddamaroon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/waddamaroon)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2003, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-red-wings-are-pissing-me-off/168326/40 "2003-04-17T17:33:00Z")

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I was a Blues fan from the days of Noel Picard, Frank St. Marseille (I know I spelled his name wrong), Gary Sabourin and Glenn Hall.  
As I recall, we hated, in order, the Blackhawks and the Northstars.  
Nowadays, I’d say Detroit’s biggest rival is Colorado, but with Claude Lemeiux gone, that seems to have cooled a little.  
The last time the Red Wings pissed me off was June, 2002.

Go Stars!!!

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