# The reign of King Charles III of the United Kingdom

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**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [September 8, 2022, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-reign-of-king-charles-iii-of-the-united-kingdom/971232 "2022-09-08T18:05:14Z")\
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**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2022, 3:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-reign-of-king-charles-iii-of-the-united-kingdom/971232/181 "2022-09-10T03:06:43Z")

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At first it was the Baby Bust. Tweeners was used for a bit. Generation Jones is what’s taken hold. That’s all that I’ve personally heard.

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**Post date:** [September 10, 2022, 3:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-reign-of-king-charles-iii-of-the-united-kingdom/971232/182 "2022-09-10T03:12:20Z")

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> [@hajario](#):
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> Generation Jones is what’s taken hold. That’s all that I’ve personally heard.

If so, that’s not a term that sees wide use here in the U.S. – as I noted earlier, I do a lot of work using demographics and such, and it’s not a common classification (I’ve barely heard of it). Most definitions I see of the Baby Boom generation is 1946-1964 (give or take), and Generation X is 1965-1985 (or so).

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**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2022, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-reign-of-king-charles-iii-of-the-united-kingdom/971232/183 "2022-09-10T03:15:46Z")

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I don’t want to hijack anymore but it’s gaining very wide use.

Read the wiki. It makes sense. Do a Google search. It’s really not obscure

> **[Generation Jones](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generation_Jones)**
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> Generation Jones is the social cohort of the latter half of the Baby boomer generation to the first years of Generation X. The term Generation Jones was first coined by the cultural commentator Jonathan Pontell, who identified the cohort as those born from 1954 to 1965 in the U.S., who were children during Watergate, the oil crisis, and stagflation rather than during the 1950s, but slightly before Gen X. 
> Unlike "leading-edge boomers", most of Generation Jones did not grow up with World War II v...

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> [@Akaj](#):
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> The Revenge of Chucky?

I laughed.

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**Post date:** [September 10, 2022, 4:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-reign-of-king-charles-iii-of-the-united-kingdom/971232/185 "2022-09-10T04:31:24Z")

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“Charles In Charge”.

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**Post date:** [September 10, 2022, 11:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-reign-of-king-charles-iii-of-the-united-kingdom/971232/186 "2022-09-10T11:28:12Z")

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Even better!

(For those blissfully unaware:)

> **[Charles in Charge (TV Series 1984–1990) - IMDb](https://m.imdb.com/title/tt0086681/)**
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> Charles in Charge: Created by Barbara Weisberg, Michael Jacobs, Barbara Weisberg, Craig Kellem. With Scott Baio, Willie Aames, Nicole Eggert, Josie Davis. Charles, a college student, is a live-in housekeeper in the Powell household. Charles, along...

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**Post date:** [September 10, 2022, 11:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-reign-of-king-charles-iii-of-the-united-kingdom/971232/187 "2022-09-10T11:31:39Z")

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my question is Charles known as a religiously devout person or is he paying lip service to tradition with all the religious traditions?

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**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2022, 11:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-reign-of-king-charles-iii-of-the-united-kingdom/971232/188 "2022-09-10T11:51:33Z")

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Not as much as his mother but certainly more than the average modern Brit.

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**Author:** ![StarvingButStrong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/starvingbutstrong/32/335_2.png) [@StarvingButStrong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StarvingButStrong)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2022, 1:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-reign-of-king-charles-iii-of-the-united-kingdom/971232/189 "2022-09-10T13:10:13Z")

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I’m wondering… With Charles simply declaring William Prince of Wales in a speech, is that it?

I remember when Charles became the Prince of Wales it was a huge deal, televised internationally and all, big gathering, speech in Welsh, kneeling before the Queen, all sorts of ceremonial stuff.

Will all that stuff just be skipped? Is it part of Charles’ announced ‘downsizing’ the monarchy push?

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**Post date:** [September 10, 2022, 1:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-reign-of-king-charles-iii-of-the-united-kingdom/971232/190 "2022-09-10T13:20:44Z")

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> [@StarvingButStrong](#):
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> I remember when Charles became the Prince of Wales it was a huge deal, televised internationally and all, big gathering, speech in Welsh, kneeling before the Queen, all sorts of ceremonial stuff.

No. When Charles became Prince of Wales, it was a small notification in the [London Gazette](https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/issue/41460/page/4733).

[His investiture took place 11 years later.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Investiture_of_the_Prince_of_Wales#Investiture_of_Charles)

> [@StarvingButStrong](#):
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> Is it part of Charles’ announced ‘downsizing’ the monarchy push?

Well, he has quietly asked (even while still Prince of Wales) his nieces (Andrew’s daughters) to start performing Royal duties so, dunno. (I think Zara Philips is hiding somewhere)  
Downsizing will happen on its own as lots of the erstwhile Queens more distant relatives begin dying off. Right now their problem isn’t too many Royals, its too few ones in their prime. Its Will and Kate and…a few seventy somethings (Charles, Camilla and Anne) and oh yeah, Edward and his missus, who are in their sixties, plus a battalion of young un.

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**Post date:** [September 10, 2022, 1:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-reign-of-king-charles-iii-of-the-united-kingdom/971232/191 "2022-09-10T13:42:55Z")

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The large investiture ceremony isn’t needed. It has only happened a few times.

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**Post date:** [September 10, 2022, 1:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-reign-of-king-charles-iii-of-the-united-kingdom/971232/192 "2022-09-10T13:54:27Z")

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> [@StarvingButStrong](#):
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> I’m wondering… With Charles simply declaring William Prince of Wales in a speech, is that it?
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> I remember when Charles became the Prince of Wales it was a huge deal, televised internationally and all, big gathering, speech in Welsh, kneeling before the Queen, all sorts of ceremonial stuff.
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> Will all that stuff just be skipped? Is it part of Charles’ announced ‘downsizing’ the monarchy push?

The formal enactment will be by letters patent under the Great Seal. It may be that this hasn’t yet been drawn up, as the Chancery clerks are presumably working overtime to produce the huge number of formal documents suddenly needed. Some of the more technical bits of business at the Accession Council were the orders to enable such grants to be processed without the need for new official seals. But the King has doubtless already signed the warrant to instigate the process of granting the title to Prince William. The investiture is a separate matter.

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**Post date:** [September 10, 2022, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-reign-of-king-charles-iii-of-the-united-kingdom/971232/193 "2022-09-10T14:11:05Z")

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I had been wondering how quickly it would become “official.” The Royal Family’s [website](https://www.royal.uk/the-prince-of-wales) already has William listed as “The Prince of Wales” (although the text in the browser tab still says “About The Duke of Cambridge”), so it would seem that Charles saying it in his address was sufficient for things to start changing.

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**Post date:** [September 10, 2022, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-reign-of-king-charles-iii-of-the-united-kingdom/971232/194 "2022-09-10T14:41:47Z")

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> [@APB](#):
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> The formal enactment will be by letters patent under the Great Seal. It may be that this hasn’t yet been drawn up, as the Chancery clerks are presumably working overtime to produce the huge number of formal documents suddenly needed

> [@MrAtoz](#):
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> had been wondering how quickly it would become “official.” The Royal Family’s [website](https://www.royal.uk/the-prince-of-wales) already has William listed as “The Prince of Wales” (although the text in the browser tab still says “About The Duke of Cambridge”), so it would seem that Charles saying it in his address was sufficient for things to start changing.

The necessary documents undoubtedly went to the top of the pile.  
The appointment is by Letters patent. Here are the [Letters patent which appointed Charles as Prince of Wales…](https://images.app.goo.gl/Fj9XHMs3LYR8KnkE6)

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**Post date:** [September 10, 2022, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-reign-of-king-charles-iii-of-the-united-kingdom/971232/195 "2022-09-10T15:13:24Z")

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> [@MrAtoz](#):
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> I had been wondering how quickly it would become “official.” The Royal Family’s [website](https://www.royal.uk/the-prince-of-wales) already has William listed as “The Prince of Wales” (although the text in the browser tab still says “About The Duke of Cambridge”), so it would seem that Charles saying it in his address was sufficient for things to start changing.

The King’s grandfather, George VI, announced his intention to create his brother, the former Edward VIII, Duke of Windsor immediately after he abdicated, but the letters patent weren’t actually issued for a few weeks. He still started using the title without right away without objection.

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**Post date:** [September 10, 2022, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-reign-of-king-charles-iii-of-the-united-kingdom/971232/196 "2022-09-10T16:02:14Z")

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He has been proclaimed [King of Canada.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monarchy_of_Canada)

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/nmO6xMsGhFg/maxresdefault.jpg "King Charles III proclaimed Canada's head of state at Rideau Hall ceremony | FULL") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nmO6xMsGhFg)

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Hmm, perhaps they should’ve held off on the gun salute until after the French version was read. Poor optics, but the subtitles were down right hilarious. I’m a little surprised Canada didn’t take the opportunity to omit the references to the UK and Defender of the Faith from his official titles.

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It’s set by a federal statute so would need to be amended by Parliament.

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**Post date:** [September 10, 2022, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-reign-of-king-charles-iii-of-the-united-kingdom/971232/199 "2022-09-10T16:55:37Z")

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While you are at it, learned King’s Counsel, maybe Canada should also abolish the dual language proclamations and have it done in Norman French, like the Conquerer intended. 😉

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The subtitles were hilarious, and the poor fellow did not expect the gun salute.

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