# The reign of King Charles III of the United Kingdom

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**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [September 8, 2022, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-reign-of-king-charles-iii-of-the-united-kingdom/971232 "2022-09-08T18:05:14Z")\
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That was certainly the intent of the drafters.

But if that miscue about Charles III’s title can let DeSantis, using a DeSantis-appointed Attorney General get a DeSantis-appointed judge to invalidate the terms of Disney’s maneuver and thereby wrest control of Disney’s land back into the DeSantis-created and DeSantis-controlled fake Board of Directors, well …

You can see how well that plays into the rest of DeSantis’ plans for ~~law and Order~~ personal power.

As he just announced via tweet in the currently breaking Trump indictment situation; abiding by the actual law is for losers, not for me and my pals.

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**Post date:** [March 31, 2023, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-reign-of-king-charles-iii-of-the-united-kingdom/971232/765 "2023-03-31T02:40:26Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> I’m fairly sure the “Charles III” is the important part of the clause, not the semantic quibbling about what he may or may not be king of.

Indeed. This isn’t a court circular or a manual on etiquette. Use of the correct formal title is neither here nor there; all that matters is whether the person referred to is clearly identified. Are we in any doubt at all about who “King Charles III, king of England” refers to? No. Then we’re good.

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As a bemused foreigner, I have to ask - does this sort of contract require a gold fringe to come into this, anywhere?

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If it doesn’t, it should.

But I can sure see some CT wackos running with this. e.g.

> Disney has been suborned by the UK royalist badguys. All that wrapping themselves in the flag stuff Disney is so famous for? It’s all a hoax. All true-blooded RW 'Merikans _must_ boycott all things Disney.

And with that DeSantis gets his wish. A depression settles on Orlando, he gets to close all the schools and colleges for lack of tax revenue, while increasing the police budget, then he gets to rule over yet another ignorant hellhole like the rest of rural FL.

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OK now to add to the list of things I am angry at the FloridaMan crew for, I add making reporting on HisMaj the Chuckster be all about them.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
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> [@Smapti](#):
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> I’m fairly sure the “Charles III” is the important part of the clause, not the semantic quibbling about what he may or may not be king of.

I didn’t vote for him.

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**Post date:** [March 31, 2023, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-reign-of-king-charles-iii-of-the-united-kingdom/971232/770 "2023-03-31T16:29:13Z")

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You don’t vote for kings!

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**Post date:** [March 31, 2023, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-reign-of-king-charles-iii-of-the-united-kingdom/971232/771 "2023-03-31T17:11:56Z")

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How’d you get to be king, eh? By exploiting the workers!

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I, for one, hope that the Coronation will include some sort of farcical aquatic ceremony.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
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Look, strange women lying about in ponds distributing swords is no basis for the governance of a special tourism district.

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I know that Nimuë is a bit bonkers, but is she really any worse than an “electoral college” or choosing the leader according to their relative charisma?

BTW, it’s laying not lying.

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Focus, people, we have a month and a week for HisMaj the Chuckster to get smeared and the Big Bling laid upon him on Kentucky Derby Day. Let’s not get distracted (and I can imagine which event will get better ratings).

But aye, alas, unlikely to have aquatic ceremonies since though the Thames is pretty much right around the corner, it’s the Lady of the _Lake_, not of the River.

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> [@JRDelirious](#):
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> But aye, alas, unlikely to have aquatic ceremonies since though the Thames is pretty much right around the corner, it’s the Lady of the _Lake_, not of the River.

Right. We’ll just have to flood Whitechapel, then.

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> [@PatrickLondon](#):
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> As a bemused foreigner, I have to ask - does this sort of contract require a gold fringe to come into this, anywhere?

Hey, it was the English courts that invented it! Florida is just being a good former colony in applying it.

> **[Rule against perpetuities](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rule_against_perpetuities)**
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> The rule against perpetuities is a legal rule in common law that prevents people from using legal instruments (usually a deed or a will) to exert control over the ownership of private property for a time long beyond the lives of people living at the time the instrument was written. Specifically, the rule forbids a person from creating future interests (traditionally contingent remainders and executory interests) in property that would vest beyond 21 years after the lifetimes of those living at th...

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**Post date:** [April 1, 2023, 10:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-reign-of-king-charles-iii-of-the-united-kingdom/971232/778 "2023-04-01T10:56:48Z")

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Apparently Joe’s not coming !

> **[Joe Biden to turn down Coronation invitation](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/royal-family/2023/03/31/joe-biden-invitation-coronation-king-charles-turn-down/)**
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> US president will not join world leaders but may send Jill Biden, the first lady, in show of support for King Charles III

(If that’s not a declaration of war, i don’t know what is !)

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**Post date:** [April 1, 2023, 11:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-reign-of-king-charles-iii-of-the-united-kingdom/971232/779 "2023-04-01T11:50:52Z")

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> [@pjd](#):
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> Apparently Joe’s not coming

WHY NOT?  
This absolutely baffles me.  
There will be lots of heads-of-state from all over the world attending the ceremony

Why is Biden refusing to go?

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I don’t think he’s refusing …  
From [another source](https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/royal-family/joe-biden-king-charles-coronation-b2312119.html) :

> …aides had been told that Biden reportedly has other commitments, which is why he cannot go to the coronation.  
> However, one source claims that there “may still be some efforts under way to see if Biden can be persuaded to come to the Coronation”, while another said that his plan to decline the invitation was “not locked and loaded”.

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> [@chappachula](#):
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> WHY NOT?  
> This absolutely baffles me.

The late Queen’s funeral was, AFAIK, the very first major state event in the UK that _was_ attended by the US president. The norm is not attending.

(Until recently, I would have assumed that Joe Biden would not attend because it was once considered a violation of etiquette for another head of state to attend. But there have been quite a few reports that various heads of state have been invited, which probably means that old rule has gone down the tubes. I guess that was inevitable for the first coronation of the jet age.)

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> [@chappachula](#):
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> Why is Biden refusing to go?

[![](https://i0.wp.com/skwawkbox.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/bidenirish_dvd.original.jpg?fit=640%2C360&ssl=1) ](https://i0.wp.com/skwawkbox.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/bidenirish_dvd.original.jpg?fit=640%2C360&ssl=1)

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More declining than refusing and probably because he has more important things to do than attend a silly ceremony.

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