# The reign of King Charles III of the United Kingdom

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**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [September 8, 2022, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-reign-of-king-charles-iii-of-the-united-kingdom/971232 "2022-09-08T18:05:14Z")\
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**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2022, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-reign-of-king-charles-iii-of-the-united-kingdom/971232/61 "2022-09-09T00:46:21Z")

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> [@Telemark](#):
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> His mother made it very clear that she considered the monarchy to be a lifetime role, and it appears Charles has taken the same approach. I can’t see him abdicating unless he’s infirmed.

She was still only the heiress when she stated so unequivocally, and then reiterated it more than once in public events. The abdication crisis that thrust George VI onto the throne left an imprint on the family. Yes, I believe that they’s only consider it for a case of disability… and to be a figurehead monarch you do not need to be _that_ vigorous.

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2022, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-reign-of-king-charles-iii-of-the-united-kingdom/971232/62 "2022-09-09T00:48:16Z")

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> [@Daithi\_Lacha](#):
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> Another Arthur, Duke of Brittany and in the line of succession for the English throne (per his uncle, Richard I “The Lionheart”), was imprisoned and ultimately murdered by King John ca. 1203.

Exactly who, when and how Arthur, Duke of Brittany died is unknown and a mystery.

> [@PastTense](#):
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> Don’t you realize Liz Truss is now PM? Here is her speaking on the subject:

1994? Puleeze. 🤨 She was still in _college_ fercrickiessake.

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> [@Ulfreida](#):
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> I feel like I’m the only person on earth besides Camilla who actually likes the guy. Always have.

I like him well enough as well. I hope he reigns for a good amount of time and is well received by people.

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**Author:** ![Kent\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kent_clark/32/105_2.png) [@Kent\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kent_Clark)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2022, 1:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-reign-of-king-charles-iii-of-the-united-kingdom/971232/64 "2022-09-09T01:37:14Z")

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> [@PastTense](#):
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> Don’t you realize Liz Truss is now PM? Here is her speaking on the subject:

You mean Liz Truss, 19-year old member of the Liberal Democratic Party?

Whatever happened to her?

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2022, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-reign-of-king-charles-iii-of-the-united-kingdom/971232/65 "2022-09-09T01:48:31Z")

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People who keep saying that Charles’s past will make him a bad king need to read up on their history of the royal family. He’s a saint compared to some of his ancestors.

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**Author:** ![SwissMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e79b87/32.png) [@SwissMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SwissMan)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2022, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-reign-of-king-charles-iii-of-the-united-kingdom/971232/66 "2022-09-09T01:55:25Z")

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His ancestors didn’t live in the era of social media and a 24-hour newscycle, though.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2022, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-reign-of-king-charles-iii-of-the-united-kingdom/971232/67 "2022-09-09T01:55:26Z")

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To paraphrase a tweet I saw earlier, it’s not as though Charles is going to Mr. Bean his way into destroying the monarchy.

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**Author:** ![RickG](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rickg/32/5174_2.png) [@RickG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickG)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2022, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-reign-of-king-charles-iii-of-the-united-kingdom/971232/68 "2022-09-09T01:55:28Z")

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> [@Bootb](#):
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> > [@RickG](#):
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> > Considering the longevity of his parents, it seems like abdication is the more likely route to a short (less than 2 decade) reign.
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> There was much breathless (and groundless) speculation over the last few years that his mother would abdicate. I do not see any firmer support for the supposition that he will abdicate.

I was responding to another post about him dying quickly, and merely pointing out that odds are the only way he would have a short reign was if he were to quit rather than popping his clogs. I did not mean to imply that he would or should do so. Apologies that it came out that way.

Except insofar as I am deeply skeptical of massive inherited wealth, and ambivalent at best about the whole concept of aristocracy in general and monarchy in particular, I wish him a long and happy reign.

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**Author:** ![naita](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naita/32/5862_2.png) [@naita](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/naita)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2022, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-reign-of-king-charles-iii-of-the-united-kingdom/971232/69 "2022-09-09T02:14:11Z")

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> [@PastTense](#):
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> Don’t you realize Liz Truss is now PM? Here is her speaking on the subject:

Wouldn’t it be fun if she breaks out of her current act as a weather vane to show this is her true self! 😃

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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2022, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-reign-of-king-charles-iii-of-the-united-kingdom/971232/70 "2022-09-09T02:53:09Z")

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I like the moniker the French hung on her: the iron weathercock.

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**Author:** ![MulderMuffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldermuffin/32/2862_2.png) [@MulderMuffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MulderMuffin)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2022, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-reign-of-king-charles-iii-of-the-united-kingdom/971232/71 "2022-09-09T03:19:06Z")

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I’m not a Brit, so this is only a Yank’s observation and opinion, but Charles isn’t terribly popular in the Commonwealth, and there have been rumblings for years that the monarchy has outlived its usefulness. I wonder if it might not make more sense for The Firm if old Charles steps aside for an extremely popular young king with an adorable family. I think the Brits would embrace William and Kate much more than Charles and Camila. But that’s just an outsider’s perspective, so YMMV.

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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2022, 3:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-reign-of-king-charles-iii-of-the-united-kingdom/971232/72 "2022-09-09T03:48:42Z")

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> [@MulderMuffin](#):
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> I wonder if it might not make more sense for The Firm if old Charles steps aside

Just a few years ago, we were debating whether the Queen should have stepped aside for Charles:

> [@Queen Elizabeth is 90. Should she have held power as Queen this long vs letting Charles rule?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/queen-elizabeth-is-90-should-she-have-held-power-as-queen-this-long-vs-letting-charles-rule/775632):
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> I’m not up on the formalities of letting go of “Queen” power under English law, but Prince Charles is now 68. Is hanging onto power this long the right thing to do?

Plus ça change, plus c’est la même chose.

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**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2022, 4:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-reign-of-king-charles-iii-of-the-united-kingdom/971232/73 "2022-09-09T04:15:21Z")

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Charles III is already around the age Benelux monarchs tend to abdicate; he’ll die in the saddle like his mother.

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**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2022, 5:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-reign-of-king-charles-iii-of-the-united-kingdom/971232/74 "2022-09-09T05:04:21Z")

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His great great grandfather ended up being a good King, despite being a very unpopular Prince of Wales to a beloved Queen Regnant.  
I suspect when he kicks the bucket, it will be much the same.

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**Post date:** [September 9, 2022, 5:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-reign-of-king-charles-iii-of-the-united-kingdom/971232/75 "2022-09-09T05:22:15Z")

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> [@SpoilerVirgin](#):
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> The speculation that I’ve read in the past is that Charles originally planned to use George as his regnal name, both to honor his grandfather and because of the associations of the name Charles.

I’ve heard those stories to but I think they were spurious. Those closest to Charles claimed that he never discussed his regnal name choices because such a discussion would involve talking about the death of his mother. And while that is legally treason, Ithink it had more to do with Charles not wanting to start out conversations, “When my mum dies …”

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**Post date:** [September 9, 2022, 5:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-reign-of-king-charles-iii-of-the-united-kingdom/971232/76 "2022-09-09T05:27:35Z")

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> [@F.U.Shakespeare](#):
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> Heck, here in the U.S., Cassius Clay/Muhammad Ali took us years. Even Ricky/Rick Nelson gave some of us fits.

Whatever happened to that Lew Alcindor guy? Seemed like he was gonna be big, and then he just disappeared.

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**Post date:** [September 9, 2022, 5:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-reign-of-king-charles-iii-of-the-united-kingdom/971232/77 "2022-09-09T05:46:56Z")

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> [@AK84](#):
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> The first divorced monarch since Henry VIII.

George I was divorced.

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**Post date:** [September 9, 2022, 6:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-reign-of-king-charles-iii-of-the-united-kingdom/971232/78 "2022-09-09T06:26:43Z")

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> [@DrDeth](#):
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> Exactly who, when and how Arthur, Duke of Brittany died is unknown and a mystery.

Eh, technically. But a very slightly qualified “Arthur was extremely likely to have been murdered on King John’s orders in late 1203” probably nails it.

I cut John less slack than Richard III. And I cut Richard very, very little - the Ricardians are simply wrong 🙂 .

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**Post date:** [September 9, 2022, 6:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-reign-of-king-charles-iii-of-the-united-kingdom/971232/79 "2022-09-09T06:28:39Z")

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> [@RickG](#):
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> I assume that taking that name might therefore (further) piss off the Scots.

Of itself, I doubt it. There aren’t many Jacobites left, and anyway Charles Edward wasn’t fighting for Scottish independence, but for his father (and ultimately himself) to rule over both kingdoms, i e., replacing a German with a Franco-Italian.

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**Post date:** [September 9, 2022, 9:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-reign-of-king-charles-iii-of-the-united-kingdom/971232/80 "2022-09-09T09:12:24Z")

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He changed his name to Roger Murdock. He’s an [airline pilot](https://imgur.com/a/8wiaHOq).

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