# The reign of King Charles III of the United Kingdom

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**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [September 8, 2022, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-reign-of-king-charles-iii-of-the-united-kingdom/971232 "2022-09-08T18:05:14Z")\
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never mind. But @Babale has a better fresher cite.

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**Author:** ![Mighty\_Mouse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mighty_mouse/32/7776_2.png) [@Mighty\_Mouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Mouse)\
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> [@DrDeth](#):
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> Do you have any idea of how much the Royals bring in tourism money? Just the Coronation brought in over $400M usd. The Royals overall bring in about $2Billion per year.

When I visited Windsor Castle or Tower of London is the $75 I paid counted as part of this $2B?

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**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\
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> [@Mighty\_Mouse](#):
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> When I visited Windsor Castle or Tower of London is the $75 I paid counted as part of this $2B?.

Yes, but that’s only fair - when I go to Disneyland to visit Space Mountain that’s counted in Mickey’s 2.6 billion (well, I go to California, not Paris, but still!)

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**Author:** ![Mighty\_Mouse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mighty_mouse/32/7776_2.png) [@Mighty\_Mouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Mouse)\
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I’d go to Windsor Castle and the Tower if the British Royal Family was as much a relic as the French Royal Family.

I’ve shelled out for Versailles as well. It didn’t bother me that Louis XXXII was not on the throne somewhere.

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I agree that people would still want to see the changing of the guard and take the tower tour regardless of whether there is an active monarch. I wonder how it is calculated.

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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2023, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-reign-of-king-charles-iii-of-the-united-kingdom/971232/909 "2023-06-05T00:48:21Z")

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> [@Babale](#):
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> And no one has to pretend that Mickey was hand picked by God to reign over France.

And no one pretends that Charles was hand-picked by God. He holds his position by virtue of laws passed by Parliament.

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**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\
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> [@Northern\_Piper](#):
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> And no one pretends that Charles was hand-picked by God. He holds his position by virtue of laws passed by Parliament

Oooh. That explains why the Parliament predates the Monarchy and also why Rishi Sunak coronated Charles.

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> [@Babale](#):
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> Oooh. That explains why the Parliament predates the Monarchy

You seem to be forgetting what Parliament did to the other Kings Charles.

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January 1649: Charles I executed for high treason after a conviction before a High Court established by Parliament.

May 1649: Parliament passes _An Act Declaring and Constituting the People of England to be a Commonwealth and Free-State_, abolishing the monarchy.

May 2, 1660: Parliament passes a resolution that “government ought to be by King, Lords and Commons” and invited Charles Stuart to return to England as Charles II.

February 6, 1689: Parliament declares that James II has abdicated and the throne is vacant; Parliament offers the throne jointly William of Orange and Princess Mary, on condition that they accept the terms set out in the resolution; they do and Parliament proclaims them to be William III and Mary II. They then give royal assent to the terms, which become the _Bill of Rights_. The _Bill of Rights_ changes the line of succession, excludes James II and his descendants, and declares that in the absence of William and Mary having issue, the Crown will pass to Mary’s sister, Princess Anne, and her issue.

1701: After Anne’s sole surviving son dies, leaving her without an heir, Parliament passes the _Act of Settlement_, which states that upon Anne’s death without issue, she will be succeeded by her distant cousin, Sophia of Hanover, and Sophia’s issue. The choice of Sophia is because she is Protestant. The _Act of Settlement_ excludes a large number of Catholic claimants who are closer to the throne according to the strict line of male-preference primogeniture.

March 8, 1702: on William III’s death (Mary II had died earlier), Anne becomes Queen of England by virtue of the _Bill of Rights_ passed by Parliament.

August 1, 1714: Anne dies without issue. Sophia of Hanover had died shortly before, so Sophia’s son George becomes George I of Great Britain, under the authority of the _Act of Settlement_.

Time passes.

January 20, 1936: Edward VIII, the senior surviving heir of Sophia of Hanover, becomes King of the United Kingdom and the British Dominions overseas upon the death of his father, George V, pursuant to the _Act of Settlement, 1701_.

December 11, 1936: Edward signs an Instrument of Abdication, which takes effect on the enactment by Parliament of _His Majesty’s Declaration of Abdication Act_, which excludes any issue which Edward may have from the succession. The Crown passes to his brother, who becomes George VI, pursuant to the _Act of Settlement 1701_ and _His Majesty’s Declaration of Abdication Act 1936_.

February 6, 1952: George VI dies and his daughter Elizabeth becomes Queen, pursuant to the _Act of Settlement 1701_ as the senior surviving heir of Sophia of Hanover, as modified by _His Majesty’s Declaration of Abdication Act 1936_.

September 8, 2022: Elizabeth II dies and her son becomes Charles III, pursuant to the _Act of Settlement 1701_, as the senior surviving heir of Sophia of Hanover.

At some point in the future, an older daughter will ascend to the throne instead of a younger son, according to the new rule of strict gender-neutral primogeniture enacted by Parliament in the _Succession to the Crown Act, 2013_.

In short, every king and queen of England / Great Britain / United Kingdom since 1660 has become monarch by virtue of resolutions and laws passed by Parliament.

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He has now trooped his first colours.  
(It’s a tough job, but someone has to do it.)

> **[King takes part in first Trooping the Colour ceremony as monarch](https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/charles-the-king-prince-of-wales-elizabeth-ii-whitehall-b2359442.html)**
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> This is the first time Charles has taken part in the annual ceremony on Horse Guards Parade in Whitehall as the head of state.

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His first as King. He stood in for his mama last year.

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**Post date:** [June 19, 2023, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-reign-of-king-charles-iii-of-the-united-kingdom/971232/915 "2023-06-19T00:49:18Z")

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> [@pjd](#):
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> He has now trooped his first colours.  
> (It’s a tough job, but someone has to do it.)

He just trooped the one colour, pjd. He’ll troop another one next year, God willing.

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_ **ONE** _ ?!

Lazy git.

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Was reminded the other day of this story: Charles, or at least his aides, are under criminal investigation for selling honours to a Saudi billionaire.

The original story involved a literal suitcase full of cash.

The Met investigation is proceeding very, very, very slowly.

[https://twitter.com/Gabriel\_Pogrund/status/1621105980946911233?t=32r\_SsuCzkFvfwJJT663hQ&s=19](https://twitter.com/Gabriel_Pogrund/status/1621105980946911233?t=32r_SsuCzkFvfwJJT663hQ&s=19)

Original story

> **[Prince Charles given €3m in cash in bags by Qatari politician, according to...](https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/jun/25/prince-charles-is-said-to-have-been-given-3m-in-qatari-cash)**
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> Money was passed immediately to one of the prince’s charities, says Clarence House

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> [@Stanislaus](#):
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> Charles, or at least his aides, are under criminal investigation for selling honours to a Saudi billionaire.

What’s the status of sovereign immunity in Great Britian?

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The monarch is not amenable to the courts.

But his aides, in principal, are. There could be a fascinating discussion on the extent to which the aides could claim to be protected by their boss’s immunity if and to the extent that they were assisting him in the performance of his monarchical functions. But in this case the events complained of occurred when Charles was but a humble Prince of Wales, so I don’t think there would be much mileage in that argument. I’m not aware if the aides concerned are still in the monarchical employ.

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> [@Mighty\_Mouse](#):
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> I’ve shelled out for Versailles as well. It didn’t bother me that Louis XXXII was not on the throne somewhere.

I don’t know. When I visited, there was a line for the restroom.

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Versailles? Yeh, visited that too, and immediately thought it was the perfect explanation for the French Revolution.

/hijack

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Delightfully scathing:

> **[Terrible ideas, tedious shows, zero talent: Meghan and Harry’s trainwreck...](https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2023/jun/28/terrible-ideas-tedious-shows-zero-talent-meghan-and-harrys-trainwreck-podcast-career)**
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> From Prince Harry’s deluded plan to interview Putin to a Meghan Markle podcast so insufferable Taylor Swift refused to appear, it’s been one disaster after another. No wonder they’ve been canned

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Meanwhile, north of Hadrian’s Wall:

> **[Scotland marks coronation of King Charles III and Queen Camilla with day of...](https://www.cnn.com/2023/07/05/europe/scotland-marks-coronation-charles-royals-gbr-intl/index.html?utm_term=16887321950220e6a2680b40f&utm_source=cnn_Royal%2BNews%2B07%2B07%2B23&utm_medium=email&bt_ee=REOZwxKEnacMY5b2z0CxYuJCyk4vY%2Bw4zYCvKjGTPqnjqO1D1%2FHFdZjcVJpCWbwL&bt_ts=1688732195024)**
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> Scotland has concluded a day of festivities celebrating British monarch King Charles III’s recent coronation.

More on the new Elizabeth Sword:

> **[King Charles to receive new sword at Scottish ceremony](https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-66053986)**
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> The Elizabeth Sword, named after his late mother, will be used at a coronation event in Edinburgh.

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