# The reign of King Charles III of the United Kingdom

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**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [September 8, 2022, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-reign-of-king-charles-iii-of-the-united-kingdom/971232 "2022-09-08T18:05:14Z")\
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**Author:** ![EinsteinsHund](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/einsteinshund/32/8400_2.png) [@EinsteinsHund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EinsteinsHund)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2023, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-reign-of-king-charles-iii-of-the-united-kingdom/971232/1104 "2023-12-30T19:01:08Z")

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> [@pjd](#):
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> I believe it is one of the perks of the job.

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/8z8SpgmF0sA/hqdefault.jpg "It's Good to be the King / Mel Brooks / History of the World 1981") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8z8SpgmF0sA)

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**Post date:** [December 30, 2023, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-reign-of-king-charles-iii-of-the-united-kingdom/971232/1105 "2023-12-30T21:41:42Z")

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> [@Dangerosa](#):
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> Camilla wasn’t divorced - or even married - when she and Charles fell in love - and likely would have married if Dicky Mountbatten and the Queen Mother had approved of the match (neither did)

And if the Queen Mother hadn’t insisted on a virgin, Charles would likely not have married a woman as young and naive as Diana.

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**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2023, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-reign-of-king-charles-iii-of-the-united-kingdom/971232/1106 "2023-12-31T20:37:37Z")

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It’s also worth noting that divorced women were incredibly rare in England until the 19th century; prior to 1857 an absolute divorce required a private act of Parliament.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2024, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-reign-of-king-charles-iii-of-the-united-kingdom/971232/1107 "2024-01-05T19:24:55Z")

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Good news for him: [UK police say no new investigation into Prince Andrew allegations](https://www.aol.com/uk-police-no-investigation-prince-113820551.html)

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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2024, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-reign-of-king-charles-iii-of-the-united-kingdom/971232/1108 "2024-01-05T19:48:35Z")

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It doesn’t sound like there’s anything new in the latest release of documents, either with Andrew or with others who have previously been named.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2024, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-reign-of-king-charles-iii-of-the-united-kingdom/971232/1109 "2024-01-08T17:14:05Z")

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Nice bit of royal history here: [https://www.cnn.com/travel/tower-of-london-exclusive-pub-the-keys/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/travel/tower-of-london-exclusive-pub-the-keys/index.html)

See also: [Royal cypher - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_cypher#Charles_III)

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**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2024, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-reign-of-king-charles-iii-of-the-united-kingdom/971232/1110 "2024-01-08T17:37:35Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> Nice bit of royal history here: [https://www.cnn.com/travel/tower-of-london-exclusive-pub-the-keys/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/travel/tower-of-london-exclusive-pub-the-keys/index.html)
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> See also: [Royal cypher - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_cypher#Charles_III)

I remember learning all that from reading _Patriot Games._ After saving the life of the Prince of Wales Jack Ryan is a guest of the Yeoman Warders at the Tower.

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**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2024, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-reign-of-king-charles-iii-of-the-united-kingdom/971232/1111 "2024-01-08T19:54:28Z")

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That novel got dated really quickly, given that it was written before Charles and Diana’s marriage fell apart.

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**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2024, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-reign-of-king-charles-iii-of-the-united-kingdom/971232/1112 "2024-01-08T20:40:17Z")

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If I remember correctly they aren’t named in the novel beyond their titles but it’s obviously them. The movie changed it to some fictional English peer. I read it long after the marriage fell apart and it read very weird. The inside information about the Tower was very interesting. All of the Yeoman Warders are retired Regimental Sergeant Majors or equivalent.

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**Post date:** [January 8, 2024, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-reign-of-king-charles-iii-of-the-united-kingdom/971232/1113 "2024-01-08T20:54:20Z")

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A few books later, Robbie Jackson sees the PoW at an event and decides not to go up to him and strike up a conversation about his wife… so at least Clancy had some self-awareness about the whole thing.

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**Author:** ![Eric1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/3bc359/32.png) [@Eric1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eric1)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2024, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-reign-of-king-charles-iii-of-the-united-kingdom/971232/1114 "2024-01-17T18:21:39Z")

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King Charles NBC wrote is going to hospital for his prostate and Princes Kate for abdominal pain.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2024, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-reign-of-king-charles-iii-of-the-united-kingdom/971232/1115 "2024-01-17T19:31:37Z")

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Yes. For more:

> **[Britain's King Charles III to undergo hospital treatment for an enlarged...](https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/king-charles-iii-hospital-treatment-enlarged-prostate-rcna134297)**
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> “His Majesty’s condition is benign and he will attend hospital next week for a corrective procedure,” Buckingham Palace said in a statement Wednesday.

> **[Princess Kate hospitalized for abdominal surgery, postpones royal...](https://www.aol.com/princess-kate-hospitalized-abdominal-surgery-142630489.html)**
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> Princess Kate postponed all royal duties until after Easter in order to recover from a "successful" abdominal surgery on Tuesday.

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**Author:** ![Eric1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/3bc359/32.png) [@Eric1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eric1)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2024, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-reign-of-king-charles-iii-of-the-united-kingdom/971232/1116 "2024-01-18T00:40:56Z")

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Thank you Elendil\_s\_Heir for posting cites!

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**Author:** ![Eric1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/3bc359/32.png) [@Eric1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eric1)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2024, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-reign-of-king-charles-iii-of-the-united-kingdom/971232/1117 "2024-01-18T22:56:25Z")

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I can hardly imagine what it’s like for Prince Harry when his wife and father are both taking treatment. Maybe it’s life experience for being a monarch yet I really couldn’t say.

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**Post date:** [January 18, 2024, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-reign-of-king-charles-iii-of-the-united-kingdom/971232/1118 "2024-01-18T23:22:08Z")

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Kate is William’s wife, not Harry’s.

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**Author:** ![Eric1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/3bc359/32.png) [@Eric1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eric1)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2024, 1:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-reign-of-king-charles-iii-of-the-united-kingdom/971232/1119 "2024-01-19T01:09:38Z")

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Thank you Commasense! It was a strange mix-up as they don’t share much resemblance.

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**Author:** ![PatrickLondon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/patricklondon/32/4422_2.png) [@PatrickLondon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PatrickLondon)\
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> [@Eric1](#):
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> Maybe it’s life experience for being a monarch

Life experience for being a human on the verge of middle age - but with a more substantial support network and financial cushion.

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**Post date:** [January 19, 2024, 8:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-reign-of-king-charles-iii-of-the-united-kingdom/971232/1121 "2024-01-19T08:56:42Z")

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> [@DrDeth](#):
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> And sure, attack the idea of a King if you like, but he has done that same cousin joke too many times. For all intents and purposes, a 3rd cousin several times removed is not a relative at all.

Not if those 3rd cousins are also the result of cousin marriages, which was a feature of European royal families for hundreds of years.

Two random people meeting who are 3rd cousins and marrying is inconsequential but royals aren’t random people. By the 20th Century all the royal families of Europe had pedigree collapse in their background even if not to the extent of Charles II of Spain.

Possibly Charles III’s greatest service to his family was marrying Diana Spencer who, although a member of the aristocracy, wasn’t from a royal family herself and presumably had a family tree with more branches. Likewise, the current Princess of Wales is also from “common” stock although I gather there was some marriage into the upper classes

Anyhow - John Oliver might have been born in Britain but he’s clearly not a monarchist. And now he’s a US citizen so as long as he’s in the US I will defend his right to make inbreeding jokes in reference to the British royal family.

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**Post date:** [January 19, 2024, 9:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-reign-of-king-charles-iii-of-the-united-kingdom/971232/1122 "2024-01-19T09:12:48Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> More on the new Elizabeth Sword:
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> [King Charles to receive new sword at Scottish ceremony](https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-66053986)

> [@Alessan](#):
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> I mean… that’s a cool sword.

Look like a claymore or, in Gaelic, _claidheamh mór_. Big two-handed sword for big Scotsmen to carry into battle. It’s probably bigger than the woman it was named after.

> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> Well, _I_ sure wouldn’t want some hulking guy in a kilt and nothing on underneath to charge me with it.

Supposedly one of their main uses were to remove the front legs of charging cavalry horses. They’d do a number on you, too, of course, but you’d be sort of collateral damage.

Of course, the one shown is ceremonial even if it does have a real blade.

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> [@Broomstick](#):
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> Look like a claymore or, in Gaelic, _claidheamh mór_

Leave it to the Gaels to use nine letters where four would suffice.

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