# The Religion of Evolution **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [January 26, 2010, 12:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-religion-of-evolution/526501 "2010-01-26T12:59:12Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 5\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![begbert2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/begbert2/32/3357_2.png) [@begbert2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/begbert2)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2010, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-religion-of-evolution/526501/81 "2010-01-26T22:45:54Z")
> [@Paleface](#): > > The “Big Bang Theory”, is just that… theory. No, not disproven by scientifc rigor, just as the theory of creation has not been disproven. What was there before the Big Bang. How many Big Bangs have there been? The Universe is still expanding from the most recent Bang. Will it one day start to contract to the point that there will be another Bang? How did the first one come about? > > With evolution, like the Big Bang, there are unexplainable gaps, and you can only go back so far until there are unanswerable questions > > Hmm… there seems to be an aspect of religion to what science itself cannot “prove”. > > Faith. Which theory of creation don’t you think has been disproven? The biblical literalist one where there’re no large carnivorous dinosaurs and which we know is true because noone has ever dug up a tyrannosaurus skeleton? Or did you have another one in mind? Enlighten us, oh all-knowing one. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2010, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-religion-of-evolution/526501/82 "2010-01-26T22:52:49Z")
> [@Paleface](#): > > The “Big Bang Theory”, is just that… theory. No, not disproven by scientifc rigor, just as the theory of creation has not been disproven. Ah, but the BBT _could_ be disproved tomorrow with some new discovery. How, short of a visit by God hisself (or some equivalent diety), do you challenge a creation theory? What I produced my own edition of _Genesis_ which is identical to the New International edition in every way except that in my version, God spent seven days creating the universe and rested on the eighth? Let’s say I print up a few million copies and distribute them worldwide. What test can you conceive of that would prove my version was wrong the the standard seven-day version was right? If someone puts forward an alternate idea about the Big Bang sequence (i.e. leptons formed before hadrons), there are tests that can be designed that will tend to support or tend to deny such a claim, and it will be accepted or rejected accordingly. So, disprove my theory of eight-day creation, or at least give us some idea of how you might go about it. And if you can’t, admit you can’t. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2010, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-religion-of-evolution/526501/83 "2010-01-26T23:00:11Z")
> [@Paleface](#): > > The “Big Bang Theory”, is just that… theory. No, not disproven by scientifc rigor, just as the theory of creation has not been disproven. The Big Bang hasn’t been disproven because all the evidence appears consistent with it. Creationism hasn’t been fully disproved because over the years it has constantly retreated from science as all the actual religious myths proved to be wrong. And now many versions have been tailored into something carefully designed to say nothing at all about the real world, and therefore beyond disproof. Of course, that makes it indistinguishable from any other pure fantasy. > [@Paleface](#): > > With evolution, like the Big Bang, there are unexplainable gaps, and you can only go back so far until there are unanswerable questions And? Sometimes the data for an answer simply isn’t there. And the idea that if you don’t know the answer, that means that “God did it” is the reasonable answer is just silly. If some king a millennium ago was killed in battle, if there’s no evidence who delivered the death blow is the answer “God killed him”? > [@Paleface](#): > > Hmm… there seems to be an aspect of religion to what science itself cannot “prove”. Considering that religion is pretty much relentlessly wrong, of course science can’t prove many “aspects” of it. Science can’t prove something true when it isn’t. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2010, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-religion-of-evolution/526501/84 "2010-01-26T23:21:57Z")
There is no such thing as a scientific “theory of creation.” ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2010, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-religion-of-evolution/526501/85 "2010-01-26T23:22:28Z")
> [@Paleface](#): > > Hmm… there seems to be an aspect of religion to what science itself cannot “prove”. > > Faith. That’s your second warning, and I’m closing this thread. For the record, however, the fact that the Big Bang Theory doesn’t currently explain all aspects of the universe does not mean it’s “faith.” [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-religion-of-evolution/526501.md?page=4)