# The Republican circus just gets more and more hilarious. Obama's re-election to follow.

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**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [December 3, 2011, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-circus-just-gets-more-and-more-hilarious-obamas-re-election-to-follow/604976 "2011-12-03T20:45:22Z")\
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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2011, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-circus-just-gets-more-and-more-hilarious-obamas-re-election-to-follow/604976/141 "2011-12-27T15:58:06Z")

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Indeed, discerning and acute Virginia Republicans will see through this sham in an instant! Both of them, I daresay!

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**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2011, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-circus-just-gets-more-and-more-hilarious-obamas-re-election-to-follow/604976/142 "2011-12-27T16:41:30Z")

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> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#):
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> I can certainly understand that sentiment (although my all-time favorite political t-shirt showed up around 2003 with a picture of Dubya and read, “Bet you’ll vote next time, hippie”). I confine my disdain here to people who think not voting Democratic will move the party further to the left. That’s demonstrably untrue. If you don’t vote because you’re apathetic, or totally disheartened, or homophobic, or whatever, I totally understand. But if you don’t vote because you think political leaders are gonna listen to you then, well, you’re just wrong.

We probably need a t-shirt like that this time around.

> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> The Democratic Party’s base is further to the right than you think it is. ☹

Then don’t you think it might make sense for some people to either support candidates that represent their views (like Nader or Kucinich or Bachman or Perry)?

> [@boytyperanma](#):
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> Adding to the hilarity of these clowns running out of all the candidates running only 2 managed to be on the Virginia ballot. Virgina does not allow write in campaigns.
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> Only Mitt Romney and Ron Paul can win Virgina now. Virgina’s 151 electoral voted are predicted to be a requirement to win the Presidency.
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> This shows how un-serious a candidate Newt Gingrich is. Newt is from Virgina and probably could have collected the 10,000 signatures needed by leaving a clipboard on his front door. He now claims the problem is Virginia’s laws, mainly them now allowing write in campaigns.
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> Do people really want to elect a guy who couldn’t possibly win his home state now?

> [@Frank](#):
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> You must have only skimmed the news. Romney and Paul are the only candidates on the Republican _primary_ ballot.
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> Still doesn’t say anything good about the campaign organizations of the other six dwarves.

Virginia has an open primary system. There’s not really a Democratic primary race this year in my district, I think I’ll go vote for Not Romney.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2011, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-circus-just-gets-more-and-more-hilarious-obamas-re-election-to-follow/604976/143 "2011-12-27T17:28:42Z")

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> [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#):
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> Then don’t you think it might make sense for some people to either support candidates that represent their views (like Nader or Kucinich or Bachman or Perry)?

Either that, or what?

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**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2011, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-circus-just-gets-more-and-more-hilarious-obamas-re-election-to-follow/604976/144 "2011-12-28T20:36:00Z")

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> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> Either that, or what?

If it weren’t for the fact that the President gets to nominate the supremes, I’m not sure why its so important that Obama be president rather than send a message that we want a more progressivivity in the Democratic party.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2011, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-circus-just-gets-more-and-more-hilarious-obamas-re-election-to-follow/604976/145 "2011-12-28T20:51:28Z")

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Well, let me ask you this: do you want to go to war with Syria?

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**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2011, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-circus-just-gets-more-and-more-hilarious-obamas-re-election-to-follow/604976/146 "2011-12-28T22:16:52Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> Well, let me ask you this: do you want to go to war with Syria?

Did you want to go to war with Libya?

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**Author:** ![Rhythmdvl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/85f322/32.png) [@Rhythmdvl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rhythmdvl)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2011, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-circus-just-gets-more-and-more-hilarious-obamas-re-election-to-follow/604976/147 "2011-12-28T22:23:50Z")

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We’ve always been at war with Syrlibia.

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**Author:** ![mkecane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9e8a1a/32.png) [@mkecane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mkecane)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2011, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-circus-just-gets-more-and-more-hilarious-obamas-re-election-to-follow/604976/148 "2011-12-28T22:24:37Z")

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From Google News headlines:

_Romney, Paul at top in Iowa **as Santorum rises** _

We’ve all known these headlines were coming, but it’s still funny. And ewwww. 😛

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**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2011, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-circus-just-gets-more-and-more-hilarious-obamas-re-election-to-follow/604976/149 "2011-12-29T00:33:42Z")

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> [@mkecane](#):
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> _Romney, Paul at top in Iowa **as Santorum rises** _

Yes, it appears that Santorum is finally bubbling up as the not-Romney.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2011, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-circus-just-gets-more-and-more-hilarious-obamas-re-election-to-follow/604976/150 "2011-12-29T01:22:48Z")

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> [@Rhythmdvl](#):
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> We’ve always been at war with Syrlibia.

No, that’s Iranqistan. Syrlibia is an ally. Syrlibia has always been an ally.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2011, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-circus-just-gets-more-and-more-hilarious-obamas-re-election-to-follow/604976/151 "2011-12-29T01:24:38Z")

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> [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#):
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> If it weren’t for the fact that the President gets to nominate the supremes, I’m not sure why its so important that Obama be president rather than send a message that we want a more progressivivity in the Democratic party.

Remember W? Yes, it’s important.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2011, 5:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-circus-just-gets-more-and-more-hilarious-obamas-re-election-to-follow/604976/152 "2011-12-29T05:31:18Z")

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Can you hear that calliope music playing a little louder?

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> [@](#):
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> Michele Bachmann’s struggling presidential campaign saw her Iowa chairman defect Wednesday to rival Ron Paul’s side, an embarrassing blow that came as some called for her to leave the race to free up her supporters for other candidates.
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> Hours after appearing with Bachmann at an event, state Sen. Kent Sorenson gave his endorsement to the Texas congressman at a Des Moines rally. Sorenson said he resigned from Bachmann’s campaign to back Paul, whom he called the most conservative of the top-tier candidates.

]([http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US\_BACHMANN?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2011-12-28-23-30-05](http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_BACHMANN?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2011-12-28-23-30-05))

The first primary hasn’t even happened yet, but it’s still like watching a group of kids try and play musical chairs on both sides of a revolving door.

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**Author:** ![CaptMurdock](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/captmurdock/32/11736_2.png) [@CaptMurdock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CaptMurdock)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2011, 6:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-circus-just-gets-more-and-more-hilarious-obamas-re-election-to-follow/604976/153 "2011-12-29T06:52:22Z")

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Uh oh! Looks like Perry is not going gentle into that good night…

[Perry sues to get on the Virginia ballot:](http://www.abc.net.au/news/2011-12-28/perry-campaign-to-sue-virginia-to-get-on-2012-ballot/3750070)

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> Texas governor Rick Perry has filed a federal lawsuit seeking to get on Virginia’s 2012 primary election ballot after failing to qualify by last week’s deadline.
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> Mr Perry is challenging the state’s qualification process on constitutional grounds, saying it restricts the access of Virginia voters to the candidates of their choosing.

Amazing how Republicans are all about “states’ rights” until the state law trips them up. Then they cry to Uncle Sam’s Big Evil Federal Gubmint to fix things for them. :dubious:

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**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2011, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-circus-just-gets-more-and-more-hilarious-obamas-re-election-to-follow/604976/154 "2011-12-29T14:38:41Z")

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> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> Can you hear that calliope music playing a little louder?
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> [url=[http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US\_BACHMANN?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2011-12-28-23-30-05](http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_BACHMANN?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2011-12-28-23-30-05)]
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> The first primary hasn’t even happened yet, but it’s still like watching a group of kids try and play musical chairs on both sides of a revolving door.

This is getting fun to watch.

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**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2011, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-circus-just-gets-more-and-more-hilarious-obamas-re-election-to-follow/604976/155 "2011-12-29T15:13:02Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> Well, let me ask you this: do you want to go to war with Syria?

I wouldn’t mind a Libya type involvement in Syria.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2011, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-circus-just-gets-more-and-more-hilarious-obamas-re-election-to-follow/604976/156 "2011-12-29T15:15:39Z")

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> [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#):
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> I wouldn’t mind a Libya type involvement in Syria.

Me neither, but Syria is a much tougher nut to crack. The army is not marginalized and incompetent like Gaddafi’s army was. If our intervention **started** with air-support only, it might not **stay** there, there’s always the temptation to go just a little further in hopes Assad will finally break this time . . .

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2011, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-circus-just-gets-more-and-more-hilarious-obamas-re-election-to-follow/604976/157 "2011-12-29T15:42:50Z")

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> [@mkecane](#):
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> From Google News headlines:
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> _Romney, Paul at top in Iowa **as Santorum rises** _
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> We’ve all known these headlines were coming, but it’s still funny. And ewwww. 😛

**Santorum '12: The Word Is Spreading!**

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**Author:** ![Inigo\_Montoya](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inigo_montoya/32/124_2.png) [@Inigo\_Montoya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inigo_Montoya)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2011, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-circus-just-gets-more-and-more-hilarious-obamas-re-election-to-follow/604976/158 "2011-12-29T16:01:57Z")

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> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> Me neither, but Syria is a much tougher nut to crack. The army is not marginalized and incompetent like Gaddafi’s army was. If our intervention **started** with air-support only, it might not **stay** there, there’s always the temptation to go just a little further in hopes Assad will finally break this time . . .

A little off topic I guess, but one thing The Oval Office has going for it are two major conflicts conducted very differently. GW-I had a very clearly-defined, realistic mission and exit conditions and is reasonably lauded as a successful operation. GW-II had a clearly-defined mission as well, but was not conducted efficiently and the exit conditions were either not defined or were ignored, resulting in a bit of a boondoggle.

Good recent history for a president to keep in mind when considering just what to do with Syria.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2011, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-circus-just-gets-more-and-more-hilarious-obamas-re-election-to-follow/604976/159 "2011-12-29T16:38:57Z")

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GW-II certainly did _not_ have a clearly-defined mission, at least not once it began.

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**Author:** ![Inigo\_Montoya](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inigo_montoya/32/124_2.png) [@Inigo\_Montoya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inigo_Montoya)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2011, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-circus-just-gets-more-and-more-hilarious-obamas-re-election-to-follow/604976/160 "2011-12-29T16:48:05Z")

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I believe GW-II was:  
**Mission** : Find WMDs. An while you’re there, Git Saddam! Oh, and now Saddam’s been got, set up a [del]US-friendly dictatorship[/del] Democratic government.  
**Means** : Roto-till Iraq looking for him and some bio/chem weaponry he refuses to prove he doesn’t have  
**Goals met looks like** : \* coffee stain \*

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