# The Republican Debate of 9/16/15. What are your expectations? **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [September 16, 2015, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-debate-of-9-16-15-what-are-your-expectations/731473 "2015-09-16T14:35:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 12
**Author:** ![Onomatopoeia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/onomatopoeia/32/4145_2.png) [@Onomatopoeia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Onomatopoeia)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2015, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-debate-of-9-16-15-what-are-your-expectations/731473/221 "2015-09-22T00:53:47Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > Well, why not? Well, because the president is Obama, and as the Republican’s see it, to quote Kanye West, “no one man should have all that powa,” unless of course he’s a Republican, then there should be no limits. ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2015, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-debate-of-9-16-15-what-are-your-expectations/731473/222 "2015-09-22T00:55:06Z")
Actually, that’s just pure trickery there by Democrats and pro-high immigration Republicans. You write all kinds of border security laws, then give the President the power to waive them. Strangely, he can’t waive the legalization or path to citizenship. Funny how that works. ---
**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2015, 1:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-debate-of-9-16-15-what-are-your-expectations/731473/223 "2015-09-22T13:43:14Z")
> [@Onomatopoeia](#): > > Well, because the president is Obama, and as the Republican’s see it, to quote Kanye West, “no one man should have all that powa,” unless of course he’s a Republican, then there should be no limits. Hahahaha. “Kanye West”? Seriously? Do you actually expect anyone to believe that Republicans get their ideals, or talking points, from Kanye West? It’s a good story, it’s funny, you’re a funny guy. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2015, 1:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-debate-of-9-16-15-what-are-your-expectations/731473/224 "2015-09-22T13:44:32Z")
It might actually be an improvement. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2015, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-debate-of-9-16-15-what-are-your-expectations/731473/225 "2015-09-22T14:40:02Z")
> [@doorhinge](#): > > Hahahaha. “Kanye West”? Seriously? Do you actually expect anyone to believe that Republicans get their ideals, or talking points, from Kanye West? It’s a good story, it’s funny, you’re a funny guy. 😃 Republican Ideals? _Now_ who’s being the funny guy? ---
**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2015, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-debate-of-9-16-15-what-are-your-expectations/731473/226 "2015-09-22T14:57:22Z")
> [@Procrustus](#): > > Republican Ideals? _Now_ who’s being the funny guy? Anyone who quotes Kanye West, of course. ---
**Author:** ![Onomatopoeia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/onomatopoeia/32/4145_2.png) [@Onomatopoeia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Onomatopoeia)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2015, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-debate-of-9-16-15-what-are-your-expectations/731473/227 "2015-09-22T15:13:43Z")
> [@doorhinge](#): > > Hahahaha. “Kanye West”? Seriously? Do you actually expect anyone to believe that Republicans get their ideals, or talking points, from Kanye West? It’s a good story, it’s funny, you’re a funny guy. 😃 Don’t be obtuse. I quoted Kanye West. I didn’t say Republicans get their ideals from him, although the line I quoted from West’s song epitomizes Republican thought as relates specifically to Obama. ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2015, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-debate-of-9-16-15-what-are-your-expectations/731473/228 "2015-09-22T15:25:38Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > Rubio got rolled, that’s the general consensus around the water cooler. Not sure why I should care what the consensus is around the water cooler wherever you work. Besides, if anybody rolled him, it was the GOP establishment. In 2013, their game plan was simple: get immigration reform through Congress quickly. That way they could take the hit of the base’s anger early, so the issue would be old news by 2016 (and hopefully even 2014). And with the issue off the table, they could have a chance of winning a decent share of Hispanic votes once again. And Rubio was happy to sign up to be the public face of this plan, because by taking the lead on a major issue like this, he’d have an accomplishment under his belt that would make him look like Presidential material, and might well win the backing of the GOP establishment for 2016 to boot. (A pretty good deal, no? If I’d been Rubio, I’d have taken it too.) But sadly for Rubio, the radicals in the House GOP caucus foiled this plan, deep-sixing immigration reform and leaving Rubio holding the bag. And when he repudiated everything he’d previously supported with respect to immigration, he sounded like Groucho saying, “Those are my principles, and if you don’t like them…well, I have others.” ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2015, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-debate-of-9-16-15-what-are-your-expectations/731473/229 "2015-09-22T16:25:14Z")
Blame Boehner. He could have brought it up for a vote, and it would have passed. But he didn’t even have the guts to say why he wouldn’t. ---
**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2015, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-debate-of-9-16-15-what-are-your-expectations/731473/230 "2015-09-22T16:33:00Z")
> [@Onomatopoeia](#): > > Don’t be obtuse. I quoted Kanye West. I didn’t say Republicans get their ideals from him, although the line I quoted from West’s song epitomizes Republican thought as relates specifically to Obama. West epitomizes Republican thought only to someone like yourself. Personally, I think Kanye West is an asshole and I would never have thought of quoting West on any subject. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2015, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-debate-of-9-16-15-what-are-your-expectations/731473/231 "2015-09-22T16:37:06Z")
I’m-a let you finish, but West says he’s going to run for President in 2020. Yes, that may seem ridiculous, but the idea of Trump running seemed ridiculous until recently, too. ---
**Author:** ![Do\_Not\_Taunt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/do_not_taunt/32/2968_2.png) [@Do\_Not\_Taunt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Do_Not_Taunt)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2015, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-debate-of-9-16-15-what-are-your-expectations/731473/232 "2015-09-22T16:48:05Z")
> [@doorhinge](#): > > West epitomizes Republican thought only to someone like yourself. Did he say West epitomizes Republican thought, or did he say _a specific line_ from a West song epitomized Republican thought? ---
**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2015, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-debate-of-9-16-15-what-are-your-expectations/731473/233 "2015-09-22T16:49:36Z")
> [@Do\_Not\_Taunt](#): > > Did he say West epitomizes Republican thought, or did he say _a specific line_ from a West song epitomized Republican thought? and I would never have thought of quoting West on any subject. ---
**Author:** ![Do\_Not\_Taunt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/do_not_taunt/32/2968_2.png) [@Do\_Not\_Taunt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Do_Not_Taunt)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2015, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-debate-of-9-16-15-what-are-your-expectations/731473/234 "2015-09-22T16:54:08Z")
> [@doorhinge](#): > > and I would never have thought of quoting West on any subject. I’m sure you wouldn’t have. Why you think this is relevant or something anyone would care about, I’m unclear on. ---
**Author:** ![Onomatopoeia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/onomatopoeia/32/4145_2.png) [@Onomatopoeia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Onomatopoeia)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2015, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-debate-of-9-16-15-what-are-your-expectations/731473/235 "2015-09-22T17:40:58Z")
> [@Do\_Not\_Taunt](#): > > Did he say West epitomizes Republican thought, or did he say _a specific line_ from a West song epitomized Republican thought? Jesus. Thank you. I was beginning to wonder if I hadn’t made myself clear. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2015, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-debate-of-9-16-15-what-are-your-expectations/731473/236 "2015-09-22T18:41:36Z")
I find a lot more political insight in the work of Frank Zappa, but maybe that’s just me. Probably. ---
**Author:** ![Dung\_Beetle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dung_beetle/32/7945_2.png) [@Dung\_Beetle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dung_Beetle)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2015, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-debate-of-9-16-15-what-are-your-expectations/731473/237 "2015-09-22T19:32:08Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > I find a lot more political insight in the work of Frank Zappa, but maybe that’s just me. Probably. Like this? Girl you thought he was a man, But he was a muffin, He hung around till you found, That he didn’t know nuthin’, Girl you thought he was a man, But he only was a-puffin’ ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2015, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-debate-of-9-16-15-what-are-your-expectations/731473/238 "2015-09-22T19:45:14Z")
Totally prescient! Saw Donald Trump coming _years_ before anybody else did! ---
**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2015, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-debate-of-9-16-15-what-are-your-expectations/731473/239 "2015-09-22T21:08:43Z")
> [@Do\_Not\_Taunt](#): > > I’m sure you wouldn’t have. Why you think this is relevant or something anyone would care about, I’m unclear on. It also appears that you are unclear as to who introduced the idiotic ramblings of Kanye West to this thread. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2015, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-debate-of-9-16-15-what-are-your-expectations/731473/240 "2015-09-22T21:12:03Z")
> [@Onomatopoeia](#): > > Jesus. Thank you. I was beginning to wonder if I hadn’t made myself clear. It’s clear that only a truly desperate person would quote Kanye West in order to backup their argument. 😃 To each their own, I guess. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-debate-of-9-16-15-what-are-your-expectations/731473.md?page=11) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-debate-of-9-16-15-what-are-your-expectations/731473.md?page=13)