# The Republican Debate of 9/16/15. What are your expectations? **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [September 16, 2015, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-debate-of-9-16-15-what-are-your-expectations/731473 "2015-09-16T14:35:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2015, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-debate-of-9-16-15-what-are-your-expectations/731473/41 "2015-09-16T21:16:51Z")
> [@Onomatopoeia](#): > > And this, to me, is one of the striking differences in a debate among Republicans and one among Democrats. In a Democratic debate, candidates typically take every opportunity to express why they would be the best president for _ **all** _ Americans (that their responses are usually bullcrap is a different issue). In a debate among Republicans, on the other hand, candidates express their vision of how their presidency would best benefit Conservatopia, thereby dismissing, insulting actually, at least 50 percent of the country as though they don’t matter. You honestly don’t think that conservatives, watching Democrats give their vision, see it as “they’re telling us how they plan to build Liberaltopia”? ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2015, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-debate-of-9-16-15-what-are-your-expectations/731473/42 "2015-09-16T21:18:35Z")
> [@Richard\_Parker](#): > > He’s the Muslim kid arrested in Texas for liking science. See, e.g., all the news right now. 🙂 I don’t check the news every few minutes, and I don’t use social media (other than this MB) so I missed this one. ---
**Author:** ![John\_D\_Adamo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ed8c4c/32.png) [@John\_D\_Adamo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_D_Adamo)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2015, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-debate-of-9-16-15-what-are-your-expectations/731473/43 "2015-09-16T21:28:19Z")
> [@davida03801](#): > > that CNN will > > a. Try as hard as they can to invoke in fighting between the candidates. Not that the candidates will need much encouragement, but I susect CNN will lead it on rather than try and moderate. > > b. Ask as many embarrassing questions as they can. Considering their recent promotion for the debate looked like a commercial promoting a boxing match, I don’t think you’re far off. Prediction- Trump doesn’t lose any ground, but gets a lot less wild cheers given the establishment crowd of this round, Paul, Bush, Fiorina go on the attack. ---
**Author:** ![snowthx](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowthx/32/10660_2.png) [@snowthx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snowthx)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2015, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-debate-of-9-16-15-what-are-your-expectations/731473/44 "2015-09-16T21:30:08Z")
I think Jeb just needs to get thru this debate without making any major flubs. He’s wisely biding his time until Trump defecates on one too many “real” conservative ideas, and takes his show back to TV. Then, Jeb will be the legitimate frontrunner. I have a hard time accepting that primary voters will end up supporting Trump once it’s time to pull the handle. Jeb can afford to let Trump have the spotlight for now - he can let Trump win the battle, but he’ll be out of the war soon enough. Agree with **BrainGlutton** - and loving the irony of these idjits attacking one another out on the open at the Reagan library. Let’s see if anyone will take the high road. ---
**Author:** ![YogSothoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/8edcca/32.png) [@YogSothoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YogSothoth)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2015, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-debate-of-9-16-15-what-are-your-expectations/731473/45 "2015-09-16T21:55:42Z")
We expect everyone on stage at least have their mistakes of the last debate read to them. Some will learn something and adjust accordingly, some will not. Trump doesn’t really have to change anything. He’s still topping the polls. I expect more of the same entertaining bullshit from him. Guys dropping like rocks in the polls should be expected to do something, but what that something is might be more of the same but more extreme. For example, Walker just came out with a plan to turn labor back a hundred years. I expect him to double down on that and crow about how anti-union he is. I don’t expect anyone will pay attention because even his face looks like he’s half asleep. I think its too early to radically change things up. Bush is a bad campaigner and I don’t expect him to radically alter his approach considering this is only the 2nd debate and he has plenty of money to fall back on. He’ll still try to be the adult in the room and remind everyone about his policies when no one is listening, and he’ll still get low marks after the election. Once he starts losing donors, he’ll change up his approach, not before. He’ll be playing it safe and trying to coast on his name and pedigree I think Carson will continue to try to deflect any questions about Trump, though it would be harder with him right up on stage next to him. His attacks will come as hard as a back massage, and probably go on Twitter afterwards to apologize for his tone Fiorina I can see hammering Trump. She’s been on of the few that has attacked Trump and emerged stronger. I think she won’t be shy talking about how she’ll be better than Trump in everyway because she’s a businessperson too Cruz has been trying to latch onto Trump for weeks now, I think he’s positioning himself as Trump’s VP but I also think Trump sees through that obvious bullshit. Huckabee is my odds on favorite to mention Kim Davis. With Santorum not in it, he’s the evangelical pick. He’ll be all folksy and aww-shucks but his social policies are a terror on anyone who doesn’t agree with him To be perfectly honest, I haven’t heard or seen Rand Paul since the last debate. Has he done anything at all? I’ve not read one article on him regarding appearances or speeches. If he doesn’t do something memorable, he’s gone in the next debate Christie only knows how to be Christie. I think he’ll keep trying to attack Trump and the media will feast it up as it plays into the narrative that he’s a bully That leaves Kasich and Rubio (honestly I had forgotten about them, had to look them up). I don’t know how Kasich will do, he’s not at the bottom but he’s not on top either. And Rubio reminds me of Paul, haven’t seen him since the last debate, but apparently he’s trying to be the adult as well like Bush, only browner and younger. He has a decent sized donor list right? But he’s so bland and boring, blah blah blah, nobody cares about your dad and Cuba. ---
**Author:** ![Simplicio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@Simplicio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Simplicio)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2015, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-debate-of-9-16-15-what-are-your-expectations/731473/46 "2015-09-16T22:20:00Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > Carson and Fiorina are going to be trying to get another boost in the polls. That sounds like a pretty good strategy. Though I bet those two are hoping the other candidates don’t also think of it. ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2015, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-debate-of-9-16-15-what-are-your-expectations/731473/47 "2015-09-16T23:33:59Z")
So far best proposal of the undercard debate is Lindsay Graham’s promise that there’ll be more bipartisan drinking in Washington. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2015, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-debate-of-9-16-15-what-are-your-expectations/731473/48 "2015-09-16T23:37:46Z")
> [@JRDelirious](#): > > So far best proposal of the undercard debate is Lindsay Graham’s promise that there’ll be more bipartisan drinking in Washington. That explains where he got his 20% flat tax from. Just listening to the undercard is doing horrible things to my blood pressure. ---
**Author:** ![YogSothoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/8edcca/32.png) [@YogSothoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YogSothoth)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2015, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-debate-of-9-16-15-what-are-your-expectations/731473/49 "2015-09-17T00:50:01Z")
WTF, did Cruz just quibble over whether he was the first or last senator named? God, what a thin-skinned little prick ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2015, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-debate-of-9-16-15-what-are-your-expectations/731473/50 "2015-09-17T01:00:52Z")
So, everyone seems to have agreed to stick to the lie that Planned Parenthood sells fetal parts for profit. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2015, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-debate-of-9-16-15-what-are-your-expectations/731473/51 "2015-09-17T01:04:10Z")
Wow, Cruz and then the other Republicans do not mind that the Planned Parenthood tapes were edited to make them sound like illegal activities were going on. > **[Attack On Planned Parenthood: 3 Deceptive Edits In The Video Claiming Planned...](https://www.mediamatters.org/planned-parenthood/attack-planned-parenthood-3-deceptive-edits-video-claiming-planned-parenthood)** > > A deceptive video from a conservative group purports to show a Planned Parenthood official discussing prices for the illegal sale of fetal tissue from abortions. But the full, unedited footage and transcript released by the group undermines their... > [@](#): > > A deceptive video from a conservative group purports to show a Planned Parenthood official discussing prices for the illegal sale of fetal tissue from abortions. But the full, unedited footage and transcript released by the group undermines their sensationalist claims, showing at least three crucial edits that reveal the Planned Parenthood official was instead discussing the reimbursement cost for consensual, legal tissue donations. ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2015, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-debate-of-9-16-15-what-are-your-expectations/731473/52 "2015-09-17T01:07:57Z")
They need to cut the mikes when time runs out. That might get these idiots to actually answer the question in the time they have. Carly just zinged The Donald. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2015, 1:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-debate-of-9-16-15-what-are-your-expectations/731473/53 "2015-09-17T01:09:32Z")
Well, Fiorina did get the crowd going against Trump when she replied about what Trump had said about her “persona”. ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2015, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-debate-of-9-16-15-what-are-your-expectations/731473/54 "2015-09-17T01:11:00Z")
> [@Gatopescado](#): > > They need to cut the mikes when time runs out. That might get these idiots to actually answer the question in the time they have. > > Carly just zinged The Donald. And brought the house down. ---
**Author:** ![not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_what_you_d_expect/32/3246_2.png) [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_what_you_d_expect)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2015, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-debate-of-9-16-15-what-are-your-expectations/731473/55 "2015-09-17T01:15:38Z")
Carly rocked that. Oh my god, I’m already feeling the need for a Xanax. ---
**Author:** ![RandMcnally](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b782af/32.png) [@RandMcnally](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RandMcnally)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2015, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-debate-of-9-16-15-what-are-your-expectations/731473/56 "2015-09-17T01:18:52Z")
Carly’s remark was perfect. ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2015, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-debate-of-9-16-15-what-are-your-expectations/731473/57 "2015-09-17T01:19:10Z")
Trump just said, “…the good ones…” :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![YogSothoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/8edcca/32.png) [@YogSothoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YogSothoth)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2015, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-debate-of-9-16-15-what-are-your-expectations/731473/58 "2015-09-17T01:20:44Z")
Been a while since we heard from Rubio and instead of speaking from the heart, he tells us a memorized story. Is it just me or does that sound totally insincere? Also, can. Ben. Carson. speak. any. slower? ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2015, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-debate-of-9-16-15-what-are-your-expectations/731473/59 "2015-09-17T01:25:00Z")
Why is there an airplane in the Reagan Library? ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2015, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-debate-of-9-16-15-what-are-your-expectations/731473/60 "2015-09-17T01:28:22Z")
Trump thinks (or says) the U.S. is “one of the only countries” in the world with a [_jus soli_](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jus_soli) citizenship law. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-debate-of-9-16-15-what-are-your-expectations/731473.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-debate-of-9-16-15-what-are-your-expectations/731473.md?page=4)