# The Republican Debate of 9/16/15. What are your expectations?

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**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [September 16, 2015, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-debate-of-9-16-15-what-are-your-expectations/731473 "2015-09-16T14:35:50Z")\
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**Author:** ![Terr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/839c29/32.png) [@Terr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terr)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2015, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-debate-of-9-16-15-what-are-your-expectations/731473/61 "2015-09-17T01:30:30Z")

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> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> Trump thinks (or says) the U.S. is “one of the only countries” in the world with a [_jus soli_](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jus_soli) citizenship law.

He’s right. If you count what is called “the West”. Canada is the only other one.

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**Author:** ![YogSothoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/8edcca/32.png) [@YogSothoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YogSothoth)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2015, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-debate-of-9-16-15-what-are-your-expectations/731473/62 "2015-09-17T01:35:26Z")

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Wow Christie is pissed, LOL!

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2015, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-debate-of-9-16-15-what-are-your-expectations/731473/63 "2015-09-17T01:38:46Z")

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> [@Terr](#):
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> He’s right. If you count what is called “the West”. Canada is the only other one.

[A lot of Latin American countries do](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jus_soli#Unrestricted_jus_soli), and “the West” includes Latin America.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2015, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-debate-of-9-16-15-what-are-your-expectations/731473/64 "2015-09-17T01:39:57Z")

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Kasich took the chance to preen on his record. And it is, in this field, an impressive one.

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**Post date:** [September 17, 2015, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-debate-of-9-16-15-what-are-your-expectations/731473/65 "2015-09-17T01:40:58Z")

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I dozed off for a minute and woke up to hear Kasich talking about “doing it in both places” and “taking various positions” and I didn’t know what to think.

And did he just try to take credit for the great economy of 2000?? Might not want to mention who had been in office for 8 years at the time.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2015, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-debate-of-9-16-15-what-are-your-expectations/731473/66 "2015-09-17T01:42:26Z")

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Trump says progressive taxation is “not socialistic”! :eek:

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2015, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-debate-of-9-16-15-what-are-your-expectations/731473/67 "2015-09-17T01:44:35Z")

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Walker says he’s going to sign an executive order to “make Congress live by the same rules as everyone else.” He seems unclear on the separation-of-powers concept.

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**Author:** ![Construct](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/50afbb/32.png) [@Construct](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Construct)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2015, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-debate-of-9-16-15-what-are-your-expectations/731473/68 "2015-09-17T01:45:24Z")

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> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> [A lot of Latin American countries do](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jus_soli#Unrestricted_jus_soli), and “the West” includes Latin America.

Yeah okay.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2015, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-debate-of-9-16-15-what-are-your-expectations/731473/69 "2015-09-17T01:48:36Z")

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Not a single sound when Huckabee introduced himself. Not much laughter when Rubio (and where is he? he’s gone missing after his introduction) made his water joke.

Huckabee continues to sell the lies about Planned Parenthood.

Christie continues to lie about his 9/11 federal attorney-ship. I also laughed when he asked the crowd to raise their hands if they thought their kids would be worse off than they are today, and the entire white crowd kept silent. Yeah, not surprised.

Donald lies about having never gone bankrupt.

No, Marco Rubio, your grandfather did not escape Cuba in the way you want us to think.

Trump lied when he said he didn’t try to put a casino into Florida - [http://www.addictinginfo.org/2015/09/16/fact-check-did-jeb-cckblock-trumps-florida-casino/](http://www.addictinginfo.org/2015/09/16/fact-check-did-jeb-cckblock-trumps-florida-casino/)

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**Author:** ![Terr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/839c29/32.png) [@Terr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terr)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2015, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-debate-of-9-16-15-what-are-your-expectations/731473/70 "2015-09-17T01:51:03Z")

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> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> [A lot of Latin American countries do](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jus_soli#Unrestricted_jus_soli), and “the West” includes Latin America.

See “developing world” or “third world”.

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**Author:** ![John\_D\_Adamo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ed8c4c/32.png) [@John\_D\_Adamo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_D_Adamo)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2015, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-debate-of-9-16-15-what-are-your-expectations/731473/71 "2015-09-17T01:53:32Z")

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> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#):
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> I dozed off for a minute and woke up to hear Kasich talking about “doing it in both places” and “taking various positions” and I didn’t know what to think.
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> And did he just try to take credit for the great economy of 2000?? Might not want to mention who had been in office for 8 years at the time.

In Kasich’s defense (I’m about to puke in my mouth)… [he actually was one of the key players in the Balanced Budget Act of 1997.](http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2015/aug/09/john-kasich/checking-out-john-kasichs-claim-he-was-one-chief-a/)

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**Post date:** [September 17, 2015, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-debate-of-9-16-15-what-are-your-expectations/731473/72 "2015-09-17T01:55:30Z")

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Too many people on stage. This is a pointless waste of air-time. Haven’t heard hardly a word from half of them.

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**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2015, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-debate-of-9-16-15-what-are-your-expectations/731473/73 "2015-09-17T02:01:43Z")

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> [@John\_D\_Adamo](#):
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> In Kasich’s defense (I’m about to puke in my mouth)… [he actually was one of the key players in the Balanced Budget Act of 1997.](http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2015/aug/09/john-kasich/checking-out-john-kasichs-claim-he-was-one-chief-a/)

I don’t doubt that he might have played a part, but raving about the great economy and balanced budget of 2000 is sort of like throwing darts at the Republican bubble.

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**Author:** ![cutman74](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f04885/32.png) [@cutman74](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cutman74)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2015, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-debate-of-9-16-15-what-are-your-expectations/731473/74 "2015-09-17T02:03:16Z")

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Name a country that views us better than they did before Barack Obama was president. England, Ireland, Germany, The rest of Europe? I don’t know. Barack is the devil!!!

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**Author:** ![cutman74](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f04885/32.png) [@cutman74](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cutman74)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2015, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-debate-of-9-16-15-what-are-your-expectations/731473/75 "2015-09-17T02:05:05Z")

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When we invade voids are created. not when we pull back.

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**Post date:** [September 17, 2015, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-debate-of-9-16-15-what-are-your-expectations/731473/76 "2015-09-17T02:06:18Z")

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Am I going crazy, or is Rand Paul sounding particularly sane tonight?.. well,except for the beginning bit when he listed “defending the constitution” as his hobby or something-

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**Author:** ![cutman74](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f04885/32.png) [@cutman74](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cutman74)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2015, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-debate-of-9-16-15-what-are-your-expectations/731473/77 "2015-09-17T02:07:18Z")

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Apparently it’s the “fear” section of the debate

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**Post date:** [September 17, 2015, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-debate-of-9-16-15-what-are-your-expectations/731473/78 "2015-09-17T02:09:03Z")

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Guys, did you know we were attacked in December, not September? Christie was appointed US attorney on Dec 7, 2001.

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911!911!  
911!911!

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2015, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-debate-of-9-16-15-what-are-your-expectations/731473/80 "2015-09-17T02:11:08Z")

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> [@Terr](#):
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> See “developing world” or “third world”.

Which has a zone of Boolean intersection with what we call “Western Civilization” – there is no defensible definition of the latter that includes the U.S. but not Mexico, etc.

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