# The Republican Debate of 9/16/15. What are your expectations?

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**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [September 16, 2015, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-debate-of-9-16-15-what-are-your-expectations/731473 "2015-09-16T14:35:50Z")\
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**Author:** ![cutman74](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f04885/32.png) [@cutman74](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cutman74)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2015, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-debate-of-9-16-15-what-are-your-expectations/731473/81 "2015-09-17T02:12:06Z")

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These People must think this country sucks.

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**Author:** ![cutman74](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f04885/32.png) [@cutman74](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cutman74)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2015, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-debate-of-9-16-15-what-are-your-expectations/731473/82 "2015-09-17T02:13:47Z")

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So, Mike is the most dangerous person to this country.

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**Author:** ![Terr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/839c29/32.png) [@Terr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terr)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2015, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-debate-of-9-16-15-what-are-your-expectations/731473/83 "2015-09-17T02:15:24Z")

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> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> Which has a zone of Boolean intersection with what we call “Western Civilization” – there is no defensible definition of the latter that includes the U.S. but not Mexico, etc.

“The West” does not equal “Western civilization”. But whatever - you want to think you “caught out” Trump on something, go ahead.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2015, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-debate-of-9-16-15-what-are-your-expectations/731473/84 "2015-09-17T02:16:48Z")

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> [@Terr](#):
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> “The West” does not equal “Western civilization”. But whatever - you want to think you “caught out” Trump on something, go ahead.

Trump did not even use “the West” as a qualifier.

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**Author:** ![RandMcnally](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b782af/32.png) [@RandMcnally](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RandMcnally)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2015, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-debate-of-9-16-15-what-are-your-expectations/731473/85 "2015-09-17T02:17:20Z")

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Jeb! saying his brother was a great president reminded me of this Onion article: [History Licking Its Chops to Judge George W. Bush](http://www.theonion.com/article/history-licking-its-chops-to-judge-george-w-bush-31921)

“If our navy wasn’t so weak.” Our navy has the world’s second largest air force. I think we’re still strong.

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**Author:** ![Terr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/839c29/32.png) [@Terr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terr)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2015, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-debate-of-9-16-15-what-are-your-expectations/731473/86 "2015-09-17T02:19:01Z")

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> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> Trump did not even use “the West” as a qualifier.

Because “jus soli” matters for countries that people would flock to - i.e. First World countries. Not countries people are emigrating from. No one cares whether Pakistan has “jus soli” or not. Not even Pakistanis.

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**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2015, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-debate-of-9-16-15-what-are-your-expectations/731473/87 "2015-09-17T02:26:01Z")

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FanDuel _has got to be_ a scam!

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**Author:** ![John\_D\_Adamo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ed8c4c/32.png) [@John\_D\_Adamo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_D_Adamo)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2015, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-debate-of-9-16-15-what-are-your-expectations/731473/88 "2015-09-17T02:27:49Z")

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> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#):
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> I don’t doubt that he might have played a part, but raving about the great economy and balanced budget of 2000 is sort of like throwing darts at the Republican bubble.

Of course, he definitely overstretched.

Also, Jeb line about GWB “he kept us safe” except for when he ignored all warnings from Dick Clarke, etc about Al Qaeda attack possibilities for the first eight months of his presidency…

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**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2015, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-debate-of-9-16-15-what-are-your-expectations/731473/89 "2015-09-17T02:31:53Z")

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Did Jeb! just get the pot-head vote? 😃

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2015, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-debate-of-9-16-15-what-are-your-expectations/731473/90 "2015-09-17T02:48:19Z")

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Carson just said that vaccines don’t cause autism but says some vaccines should be optional and are being pushed by Big Government.

Trump doubles down on the idiocy.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2015, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-debate-of-9-16-15-what-are-your-expectations/731473/91 "2015-09-17T02:48:56Z")

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Trump says “autism has become an epidemic” compared to 30 years ago . . . I think he may be confused about psychologists broadening the definition of “autism spectrum” conditions.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2015, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-debate-of-9-16-15-what-are-your-expectations/731473/92 "2015-09-17T02:49:15Z")

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I’ve lost track of how many things are now an epidemic in America.

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**Author:** ![cutman74](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f04885/32.png) [@cutman74](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cutman74)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2015, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-debate-of-9-16-15-what-are-your-expectations/731473/93 "2015-09-17T02:50:32Z")

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What are vaccines? They must be coming from some where. I think Mr Trump may have eaten mercury at some point of his life

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**Author:** ![Construct](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/50afbb/32.png) [@Construct](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Construct)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2015, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-debate-of-9-16-15-what-are-your-expectations/731473/94 "2015-09-17T02:50:43Z")

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> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> Which has a zone of Boolean intersection with what we call “Western Civilization” – there is no defensible definition of the latter that includes the U.S. but not Mexico, etc.

Western civilization is just a codeword used to dogwhistle for “White”. Mexico is not considered a white nation.

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**Post date:** [September 17, 2015, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-debate-of-9-16-15-what-are-your-expectations/731473/95 "2015-09-17T02:52:02Z")

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Huckabee doesn’t understand that vaccines are not cures. Or why we can’t cure cancer.

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**Post date:** [September 17, 2015, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-debate-of-9-16-15-what-are-your-expectations/731473/96 "2015-09-17T02:53:42Z")

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Huckabee just complained that we don’t focus on curing disease. I guess the GOP will start being for research funding?

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**Post date:** [September 17, 2015, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-debate-of-9-16-15-what-are-your-expectations/731473/97 "2015-09-17T02:59:31Z")

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Jeb! can’t figure an American women to put on the $10 bill and panders to someone most GOP primary voters probably won’t even know? What a weird choice

Kasich did say Mother Teresa, but that goes to his religious pandering

Fiorina gave an answer only she could give since she’s the only woman. That was actually a bit impressive for her to think that up on the spot like that

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2015, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-debate-of-9-16-15-what-are-your-expectations/731473/98 "2015-09-17T03:03:50Z")

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> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> Why is there an airplane in the Reagan Library?

Seriously, why? Is there a retired Air Force One in every presidential library? The only one I ever visited was Nixon – no planes there.

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**Post date:** [September 17, 2015, 3:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-debate-of-9-16-15-what-are-your-expectations/731473/99 "2015-09-17T03:06:19Z")

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maybe because that particular air force one was being retired and they decided to use it for that ? no idea though

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2015, 3:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-debate-of-9-16-15-what-are-your-expectations/731473/100 "2015-09-17T03:06:46Z")

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> [@Construct](#):
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> Western civilization is just a codeword used to dogwhistle for “White”. Mexico is not considered a white nation.

[That was John C. Calhoun’s view, certainly](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jus_soli#Unrestricted_jus_soli), but I would have hoped we would have outgrown that kind of thinking by now.

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