# The Republican national Convention

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-national-convention/757729>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [June 18, 2016, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-national-convention/757729 "2016-06-18T21:53:17Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Lord\_Feldon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lord_feldon/32/341_2.png) [@Lord\_Feldon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Feldon)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2016, 4:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-national-convention/757729/221 "2016-07-19T04:26:05Z")

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Poor Melania.

I saw an article the other day, claiming that everyone who enters Trump’s orbit eventually surrenders every last ounce of their dignity. Even his wife now. Sweet Jesus.

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**Author:** ![Lamar\_Mundane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/85f322/32.png) [@Lamar\_Mundane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamar_Mundane)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2016, 4:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-national-convention/757729/222 "2016-07-19T04:27:03Z")

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> [@AnalogSignal](#):
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> Give Miss Transylvania a break. She tried to write her own speech but they had to remove large sections of it: “Donal’ vants to suck your blood.” What was left would have lasted two minutes so they had to pad it out with a real First Lady speech.

Ooooh. Busted. Speech was completely plagiarized from, get this - Michelle Obama!

This completely unbelievable!

U am not kidding, BTW.

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**Author:** ![Truman\_Burbank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecc23a/32.png) [@Truman\_Burbank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Truman_Burbank)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2016, 4:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-national-convention/757729/223 "2016-07-19T04:27:13Z")

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Poor Melania. I’d never heard her speak before. I thought she did well, they obviously trained her thoroughly to read the left teleprompter for a while, and then switch to the one on the right. Sometimes, in the pauses between sentences, she looked straight ahead!

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2016, 4:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-national-convention/757729/224 "2016-07-19T04:31:18Z")

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Everybody’s got this Melania-Michelle stuff but nobody posts the link! What is the matter with you people! You can’t post such a juicy gob without a cite! That un-Cecilian!

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**Author:** ![AnalogSignal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/analogsignal/32/1085_2.png) [@AnalogSignal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AnalogSignal)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2016, 4:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-national-convention/757729/225 "2016-07-19T04:31:56Z")

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> [@Truman\_Burbank](#):
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> Sometimes, in the pauses between sentences, she looked straight ahead!

And during those long pauses, Miss Transylvania did dramatic squints to emphasize an amazing point she just made:  
“Donal’ vill protect you.” \<\<eyes narrow dramatically\>\>

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2016, 4:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-national-convention/757729/226 "2016-07-19T04:32:35Z")

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And I would jump over five Serbian scarecrows to have Michelle sneer at me in disapproval.

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**Author:** ![Lord\_Feldon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lord_feldon/32/341_2.png) [@Lord\_Feldon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Feldon)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2016, 4:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-national-convention/757729/227 "2016-07-19T04:32:53Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> Everybody’s got this Melania-Michelle stuff but nobody posts the link! What is the matter with you people! You can’t post such a juicy gob without a cite! That un-Cecilian!

[This is where I got it.](https://twitter.com/JarrettHill/status/755242423991709697)

It’s hitting the teevee already. But thankfully the Trump campaign is very good at damage control, and not digging deeper when faced with a hole.

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**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2016, 4:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-national-convention/757729/228 "2016-07-19T04:32:54Z")

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Ask and ye shall receive: [Melania Trump's speech appears to have been plagiarized from a Michelle Obama speech (seriously)](http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2016/7/18/1549568/-Melanie-Trump-s-speech-appears-to-have-been-plagiarized-from-a-Michell-Obama-speech-seriously)

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**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2016, 4:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-national-convention/757729/229 "2016-07-19T04:34:28Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> Everybody’s got this Melania-Michelle stuff but nobody posts the link! What is the matter with you people! You can’t post such a juicy gob without a cite! That un-Cecilian!

Calm down.

[https://twitter.com/Yair\_Rosenberg/status/755251813989904384/video/1](https://twitter.com/Yair_Rosenberg/status/755251813989904384/video/1)

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**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2016, 4:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-national-convention/757729/230 "2016-07-19T04:38:09Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> Everybody’s got this Melania-Michelle stuff but nobody posts the link! What is the matter with you people! You can’t post such a juicy gob without a cite! That un-Cecilian!

> [@Lord\_Feldon](#):
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> [This is where I got it.](https://twitter.com/JarrettHill/status/755242423991709697)
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> It’s hitting the teevee already. But thankfully the Trump campaign is very good at damage control, and not digging deeper when faced with a hole.

> [@susan](#):
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> Ask and ye shall receive: [Melania Trump's speech appears to have been plagiarized from a Michelle Obama speech (seriously)](http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2016/7/18/1549568/-Melanie-Trump-s-speech-appears-to-have-been-plagiarized-from-a-Michell-Obama-speech-seriously)

> [@davidm](#):
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> Calm down.
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> [x.com](https://twitter.com/Yair_Rosenberg/status/755251813989904384/video/1)

Great minds think alike!

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**Author:** ![AnalogSignal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/analogsignal/32/1085_2.png) [@AnalogSignal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AnalogSignal)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2016, 4:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-national-convention/757729/231 "2016-07-19T04:38:21Z")

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WaPo is on it:

> **[Melania Trump’s speech appears to have cribbed from Michelle Obama’s in 2008](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/07/19/melania-trumps-speech-appears-to-have-cribbed-from-michelle-obamas-in-2008/)**
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> Journalist Jarrett Hill noticed a distinctly familiar section of Trump's speech.

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**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2016, 4:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-national-convention/757729/232 "2016-07-19T04:41:14Z")

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> [@Lord\_Feldon](#):
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> Melania Trump, 2016 convention speech: “Because we want our children in this nation to know that the only limit to your achievements is the strength of your dreams and your willingness to work for them.”
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> Michelle Obama, 2008 convention speech: “Because we want our children — and all children in this nation — to know that the only limit to the height of your achievements is the reach of your dreams and your willingness to work for them.”
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> Good job GOP.
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> Edit: More.
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> Melania: “From a young age, my parents impressed on me the values that you work hard for what you want in life; that your word is your bond and you do what you say and keep your promise; that you treat people with respect.”
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> Michelle: "And Barack and I were raised with so many of the same values: that you work hard for what you want in life; that your word is your bond and you do what you say you’re going to do; that you treat people with dignity and respect, even if you don’t know them, and even if you don’t agree with them. "
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> Good lord what a trainwreck.

Oh, please. Do you really think these sort of comments originated with Michelle Obama? They’re typical boiler-plate political pronouncements like I’ve heard politicians make all my life. Hell, in this country’s halcyon days teachers stressed the same things.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2016, 4:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-national-convention/757729/233 "2016-07-19T04:42:26Z")

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Somehow, I’m getting a vague whift of _eau de rodent_.

Here is NPR’s transcript of Michele’s 2008 DNC speech

> **[Transcript: Michelle Obama's Convention Speech](https://www.npr.org/2008/08/25/93963863/transcript-michelle-obamas-convention-speech)**
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> In her speech, Michelle Obama delves into her autobiography as a child on the South Side of Chicago and as an adult working in the public service sector. Her speech highlights what she calls Obama's commitment to young people, women and working...

Just scanning, seems this one bit shows up there:

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> …Because we want our children — and all children in this nation — to know that the only limit to the height of your achievements is the reach of your dreams and your willingness to work for them…

I dunno, standard Hallmark political treacle?

ETA: what I don’t see is that whole preceding paragraph reflected in Michele’s 2008 speech.

ETA again, my mistake its there.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2016, 4:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-national-convention/757729/234 "2016-07-19T04:43:51Z")

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> [@davidm](#):
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> Calm down.
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> [x.com](https://twitter.com/Yair_Rosenberg/status/755251813989904384/video/1)

I love that Rosenberg is using the (((ECHOES))) tag to tell the anti-Semites to go fuck themselves.

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**Author:** ![Merneith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/57b2e6/32.png) [@Merneith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merneith)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2016, 4:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-national-convention/757729/235 "2016-07-19T04:44:26Z")

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It’s at TPM, too -

> **[Melania Trump’s RNC Speech Follows Michelle Obama’s Nearly Verbatim](https://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/melania-trump-michelle-obama-convention-remarks)**
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> In her prime time speech at the Republican National Convention Monday evening, Donald Trump's wife Melania appeared to lift significant portions from a speech delivered by now-First Lady Michelle…

Also, this:

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> Before delivering her remarks, Melania Trump told NBC’s Matt Lauer that she had only read the speech over once on the plane: “And that’s all, because I wrote it with a little help as possible.”

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**Author:** ![drad\_dog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@drad\_dog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drad_dog)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2016, 4:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-national-convention/757729/236 "2016-07-19T04:47:15Z")

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This is the best. Perfect. Christmas is early and often this year.

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**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2016, 4:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-national-convention/757729/237 "2016-07-19T04:47:44Z")

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> [@](#):
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> They’re typical boiler-plate political pronouncements

…that are still in, y’know, someone else’s exact words. At my university, Melania would have just gotten herself an F and an academic conduct violation charge.

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**Author:** ![Merneith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/57b2e6/32.png) [@Merneith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merneith)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2016, 4:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-national-convention/757729/238 "2016-07-19T04:48:52Z")

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(((Yair Rosenberg))) rules:

[https://twitter.com/Yair\_Rosenberg/status/755262101606768640](https://twitter.com/Yair_Rosenberg/status/755262101606768640)

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> This is going to get really awkward on Thursday when Trump starts talking about the lessons he learned growing up as a black kid in Chicago.

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**Author:** ![Tangent](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tangent/32/3098_2.png) [@Tangent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tangent)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2016, 4:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-national-convention/757729/239 "2016-07-19T04:52:06Z")

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^we need an LOL smilie

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**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2016, 4:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-national-convention/757729/240 "2016-07-19T04:53:48Z")

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> [@Starving\_Artist](#):
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> Oh, please. Do you really think these sort of comments originated with Michelle Obama? They’re typical boiler-plate political pronouncements like I’ve heard politicians make all my life. Hell, in this country’s halcyon days teachers stressed the same things.

Maybe. But not WORD. FOR. WORD. That’s called plagiarism. Clearly this isn’t on poor Melania. More likely this a result of the bargain basement campaign these yahoos are running. I can only imagine the rage The Orange One is going to go into about this. I wouldn’t want to be that speechwriter.

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