# The Republican national Convention **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [June 18, 2016, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-national-convention/757729 "2016-06-18T21:53:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 16
**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2016, 6:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-national-convention/757729/301 "2016-07-19T06:54:16Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > Then why do we have so many deadbeats and high-school grads who can read or write at a second-grade level? And yes, you’re right, it was different in my halcyon days. Is reading and writing really so bad these days? I honestly don’t know but with all the texting and social media usage I’d think that being able to read and write would be a social priority for most kids these days. The grammar may not be perfect but I’d think that it would be above second grade level. But I suppose that’s a discussion for a different thread. ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2016, 6:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-national-convention/757729/302 "2016-07-19T06:54:40Z")
And why is no one talking about how well she _delivered_ the speech, huh? 😃 Seriously though, it’s so nice to see a pretty, elegant, classy woman on the podium serving as a symbol of hard work, glamor, upward mobility and success after all these years of privilege-whinging, excuse-making and downwardly mobile lifestyles portrayed as noble and good coming from the left. ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2016, 6:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-national-convention/757729/303 "2016-07-19T06:57:20Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > And why is no one talking about how well she _delivered_ the speech, huh? 😃 > > Seriously though, it’s so nice to see a pretty, elegant, classy woman on the podium serving as a symbol of hard work, glamor, upward mobility and success after all these years of privilege-whinging, excuse-making and downwardly mobile lifestyles portrayed as noble and good coming from the left. A pretty, elegant, classy woman used those same words as Miss Greencard, and she did it 8 years ago. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2016, 7:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-national-convention/757729/304 "2016-07-19T07:13:20Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > And why is no one talking about how well she _delivered_ the speech, huh? 😃 > > Seriously though, it’s so nice to see a pretty, elegant, classy woman on the podium serving as a symbol of hard work, glamor, upward mobility and success after all these years of privilege-whinging, excuse-making and downwardly mobile lifestyles portrayed as noble and good coming from the left. > **[Melania Trump speech echoes unlikely source](https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/watch/melania-trump-speech-echoes-unlikely-source-727567427784)** > > Passages from Melania Trump's prime time speech at the Republican National Convention tonight bear a striking similarity to parts of Michelle Obama's speech at the Democratic National Convention in 2008. As pointed in the other thread. In that report about the plagiarism Republican strategist Steve Schmidt does point that the speech was indeed a highlight, but after the plagiarism was found it turned this troubled night into a catastrophe. Then he fell for the excuse that it was for sure the appalling work of the speech writers and therefore Melania was blameless, but that became more embarrassing (you would think that was impossible) when it was pointed later elsewhere about what Melania told in an early interview about her speech “work”. As for delivery, I looked at how the speech was delivered in 2008 :), compared to what Michelle Obama did, Melania Trump really looked to me as if she was a bit stiff and and also worried. ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2016, 7:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-national-convention/757729/305 "2016-07-19T07:18:05Z")
Not a bad post, **GIGO** , considering our history. My compliments. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/i_love_me_vol.i/32/521_2.png) [@I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/I_Love_Me_Vol.I)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2016, 7:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-national-convention/757729/306 "2016-07-19T07:25:19Z")
> [@wolfpup](#): > > I wonder how long before Pence jumps ship. The man is very, very far right but presumably still has some kind of functioning brain. You think so? I’d be careful with that, because dontcha know… …When you _presume_ you make a\* pre\* out of _u_ and _me_. ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2016, 7:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-national-convention/757729/307 "2016-07-19T07:52:25Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > Seriously though, it’s so nice to see a pretty, elegant, classy woman on the podium serving as a symbol of hard work, glamor, upward mobility and success after all these years of privilege-whinging, excuse-making and downwardly mobile lifestyles portrayed as noble and good coming from the left. Now that we know the Classy Lassie plagiarized it, I think some of the verses of Richard Thompson’s _Fergus Laing_ need to be recalled to describe the whole situation perfectly: \*Fergus Laing, he works so hard As busy as a bee is Fergus Laing has 17 friends All as dull as he is His 17 friends has 17 wives All the perfect shape and size They wag their tails and bat their eyes Just like Lassie Fergus he builds and builds Yet small is his erection Fergus has a fine head of hair When the wind’s in the right direction Fergus Laing and his 17 friends They live inside a bubble There they withdraw and shut the door At any sign of trouble Should the peasants wail and vent And ask him where the money went He’ll simply say, it’s all been spent On being classy \* ---
**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2016, 7:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-national-convention/757729/308 "2016-07-19T07:54:43Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > And why is no one talking about how well she _delivered_ the speech, huh? 😃 > > Seriously though, it’s so nice to see a pretty, elegant, classy woman on the podium serving as a symbol of hard work, glamor, upward mobility and success after all these years of privilege-whinging, excuse-making and downwardly mobile lifestyles portrayed as noble and good coming from the left. Ah, so you’re the audience for that political cartoon I linked to earlier… ---
**Author:** ![Alley\_Dweller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alley_dweller/32/430_2.png) [@Alley\_Dweller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alley_Dweller)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2016, 8:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-national-convention/757729/309 "2016-07-19T08:13:45Z")
[#FamousMelaniaTrumpQuotes](https://twitter.com/hashtag/FamousMelaniaTrumpQuotes?src=hash) is trending on Twitter. Some of them are hilarious. (Be sure to check out the photoshopped pictures, too.) [https://twitter.com/hashtag/FamousMelaniaTrumpQuotes?src=hash](https://twitter.com/hashtag/FamousMelaniaTrumpQuotes?src=hash) Bennett Arron ‏@BennettArron 22m22 minutes ago “I stand in front of you today as a proud, black woman…” #FamousMelaniaTrumpQuotes (((Lady TheoloGOP))) ‏@TheoloGOP 34m34 minutes ago “It takes a village to steal a speech.” #FamousMelaniaTrumpQuotes Jackée Harry Verified account ‏@JackeeHarry 1h1 hour ago #FamousMelaniaTrumpQuotes “Four score and seven years ago our fathers brought forth on this continent, a new nation…” Keya Morgan ‏@KeyaMorgan 2h2 hours ago “Ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country” #FamousMelaniaTrumpQuotes OctavioAHinojosaMier ‏@OctavioHM71 2h2 hours ago “In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth…” #FamousMelaniaTrumpQuotes Chrish Verified account ‏@mistachrish 2h2 hours ago Sevierville, TN “I did not have sexual relations with that woman” #FamousMelaniaTrumpQuotes ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2016, 8:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-national-convention/757729/310 "2016-07-19T08:32:57Z")
> [@Leaper](#): > > Ah, so you’re the audience for that political cartoon I linked to earlier… Nah, Michelle is nowhere near that heavily muscled or unattractive. But classy is not a word I’d use to describe her. Nor successful, nor a symbol of hard work and upward mobility. But I’d say the same for almost any Democratic first lady or politician. Democrats, at least in terms of political policy, couldn’t care less about class, glamor, success and upward mobility. These are all hallmarks of privilege, you see, and as such are unfair and should be abandoned. ---
**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2016, 8:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-national-convention/757729/311 "2016-07-19T08:34:02Z")
I am just basking in schadenfreude right now. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Ace](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/6bbea6/32.png) [@Johnny\_Ace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Ace)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2016, 8:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-national-convention/757729/312 "2016-07-19T08:35:31Z")
You can’t make this shit up. The photo of Michelle Obama holding up the sign is classic. > [@](#): > > Bring back my speech. ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2016, 8:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-national-convention/757729/313 "2016-07-19T08:49:36Z")
> [@Alley\_Dweller](#): > > [#FamousMelaniaTrumpQuotes](https://twitter.com/hashtag/FamousMelaniaTrumpQuotes?src=hash) is trending on Twitter. This place is going to be insufferable if Trump gets elected. Every fucking word coming out of him, anyone in his family and anyone in his administration is going to be endlessly vetted for any error or inaccuracy or possibility for misrepresentation, (Can you say “Trump was pointing at her tits”??) and trumpeted and mocked endlessly in the news and social media. It’ll be Dan Quayle times 1,000 for four to eight fucking years. Would that Democrats come under the same scrutiny. For all we know Michelle’s speech could have been plagiarized, but we’d never hear a peep about it if so. How many critical or condemning articles have appeared about Obama the last eight years outside _Fox_ and _Drudge_? I’ve never found one anytime I’ve looked on sites such as _CNN_, _USA Today,_ the _New York Times_, the _LA Times_, etc., etc., etc. For all anyone outside the _Fox/Drudge_ sphere knows, Obama himself is a Teflon president. Only without the need of Teflon. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2016, 8:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-national-convention/757729/314 "2016-07-19T08:58:02Z")
That response would make a lot more sense if the similarities were much more vague, or it was just one sentence. ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2016, 9:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-national-convention/757729/315 "2016-07-19T09:04:39Z")
> [@SlackerInc](#): > > I am just basking in schadenfreude right now. HAHAHAHAHA! Yeah, I got’cha schadenfreude…[SWINGIN’](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8M6x1H08aFc&feature=youtu.be)'! 😉 How much of that do you think’s gonna show up in the mainstream media? (C’mon, journos, prove you have at least a shred of integrity and trumpet that with the same intensity you do Melania’s speech.) Ain’t gonna happen, I guarantee it! ---
**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2016, 9:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-national-convention/757729/316 "2016-07-19T09:11:23Z")
The Deval Patrick plagiarism was covered extensively in the MSM. But that was from a friend and ally. This is much more embarrassing. ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2016, 9:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-national-convention/757729/317 "2016-07-19T09:16:41Z")
Oh, yeah? Was it covered [like this](http://www.cnn.com)? And who cares if it was from a friend and ally? Obama presented it as his own. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2016, 9:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-national-convention/757729/318 "2016-07-19T09:19:56Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > Nah, Michelle is nowhere near that heavily muscled or unattractive. But classy is not a word I’d use to describe her. Nor successful, nor a symbol of hard work and upward mobility. But I’d say the same for almost any Democratic first lady or politician. Democrats, at least in terms of political policy, couldn’t care less about class, glamor, success and upward mobility. These are all hallmarks of privilege, you see, and as such are unfair and should be abandoned. I’ll be sure to let all the Democratic men and women I served with in the Navy that they aren’t classy, didn’t work hard, and aren’t successful. Jesus, what a pointlessly hateful post. ---
**Author:** ![coremelt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4491bb/32.png) [@coremelt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/coremelt)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2016, 9:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-national-convention/757729/319 "2016-07-19T09:21:12Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > This place is going to be insufferable if Trump gets elected. Every fucking word coming out of him, anyone in his family and anyone in his administration is going to be endlessly vetted for any error or inaccuracy or possibility for misrepresentation, (Can you say “Trump was pointing at her tits”??) and trumpeted and mocked endlessly in the news and social media. It’ll be Dan Quayle times 1,000 for four to eight fucking years. > > Would that Democrats come under the same scrutiny. Are you serious? Obama and Clinton are attacked relentlessly for everything they say and do by the frothing true believer GOP and Tea partiers. If Trump is mocked more than them, it’s because he objectively says loads more incredibly stupid things. Sorry that reality has a liberal bias. ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2016, 9:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-national-convention/757729/320 "2016-07-19T09:31:35Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > I’ll be sure to let all the Democratic men and women I served with in the Navy that they aren’t classy, didn’t work hard, and aren’t successful. > > Jesus, what a pointlessly hateful post. The Democratic men and women you served with in the Navy were Democratic politicians? They’re the ones who set policy, you know. But be that as it may, let me isolate what I said in the hope it gets through this time: > [@](#): > > But I’d say the same for almost any **Democratic first lady or politician**. Democrats, at least in terms of political policy, couldn’t care less about class, glamor, success and upward mobility. These are all hallmarks of privilege, you see, and as such are unfair and should be abandoned. [bolding, of course, is mine] [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-national-convention/757729.md?page=15) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-national-convention/757729.md?page=17)