# The Republican national Convention **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [June 18, 2016, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-national-convention/757729 "2016-06-18T21:53:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 22
**Author:** ![Trion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ccd318/32.png) [@Trion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trion)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2016, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-national-convention/757729/421 "2016-07-19T16:31:05Z")
I hope that during the Democratic convention, Bill’s speech quotes the same passages from Michelle’s speech. As an homage to the Obamas and a shot at Trump. Plus, I would find it funny. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2016, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-national-convention/757729/422 "2016-07-19T16:32:10Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > Do you not think the speech was vetted? Are you arguing that the speech was not read by Donald Trump and that the speech that his wife delivered was completely un-screened by her candidate husband? Trump barely bothers to vet his _own_ speeches. I can’t see him taking the time to do all that work himself when he can delegate it to someone he’ll refuse to pay for it. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Ace](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/6bbea6/32.png) [@Johnny\_Ace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Ace)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2016, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-national-convention/757729/423 "2016-07-19T16:32:28Z")
Gotta love it. [QUOTE=Paul Manafort] I mean, this is, once again, an example of when a woman threatens Hillary Clinton, how she seeks out to demean her and take her down. [/QUOTE] Straight out of the L. Ron strategy manual. The Hillary made me do it. ---
**Author:** ![Peanut\_Gallery](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/838e76/32.png) [@Peanut\_Gallery](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peanut_Gallery)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2016, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-national-convention/757729/424 "2016-07-19T16:34:40Z")
The rickroll has got to be the most hilarious moment of the campaign so far. If not ANY campaign ever. And having said that, I eagerly await it being topped before the convention is over. That speechwriter deserves induction to the Ratfuck Hall of Fame. Bravo! ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2016, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-national-convention/757729/425 "2016-07-19T16:34:58Z")
> [@Corry\_El](#): > > Agree, and ‘Anglo Saxon bullet heads’ would be deemed racist I believe, if it were almost any other group. Altogether the theme of personal attack on the people involved on the ground in Benghazi is bush league. First, **elucidator** ’s use of the phrase “bullet headed Saxon mother’s sons” was plagiarizing Lennon and McCartney. Second, if they choose to make personal attacks, they open themselves for contradiction and reaction. That’s life. ---
**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2016, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-national-convention/757729/426 "2016-07-19T16:36:50Z")
> [@davidm](#): > > Someone was bound to do this: > > [https://youtu.be/9KtzdP7mR-4](https://youtu.be/9KtzdP7mR-4) What I’d like to see is video of M Trump speaking with the audio replaced by M Obama’s speech. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2016, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-national-convention/757729/427 "2016-07-19T16:37:43Z")
> [@kenobi\_65](#): > > From that article: > > > [@](#): > > > > New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie, and the head of Trump’s White House transition team, appeared on NBC’s “Today” on Tuesday and said that just a fraction of the speech was similar. He said “93% of the speech is completely different than Michelle Obama’s speech." > > OMG. Plagarism is acceptable, if there’s only a little bit of it? Seriously? Also, 93% of the bridges in New Jersey were open the day of that silly little Fort Lee kerfluffle. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2016, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-national-convention/757729/428 "2016-07-19T16:38:03Z")
> [@Peanut\_Gallery](#): > > The rickroll has got to be the most hilarious moment of the campaign so far. If not ANY campaign ever. And having said that, I eagerly await it being topped before the convention is over. That speechwriter deserves induction to the Ratfuck Hall of Fame. Bravo! Hell, at this point, I wouldn’t be surprised if one of the speakers just starts dropping N-bombs in the middle of their speech. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2016, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-national-convention/757729/429 "2016-07-19T16:39:49Z")
> [@Steve\_MB](#): > > My guess is that the check bounced before the writer turned in the final copy. Trump is too rich to have a bounced check. He stopped payment. ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2016, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-national-convention/757729/430 "2016-07-19T16:43:24Z")
> [@Northern\_Piper](#): > > By the way, all of you who are mocking her accent: how many of you have addressed a national political convention, televised to the world, in a foreign language? > > Give her some credit - that is an impressive accomplishment in and of itself. > > When did being an immigrant to the US become a point of mockery? I agree. This controversy isn’t, or at least shouldn’t be, about Melania Trump herself. For me, it’s more of a hilarious distraction from all of the other Trump campaign shit, the stuff that’s so scary and fucking demented that you can’t laugh at it. > [@RickJay](#): > > Look, I despise Donald Trump, but… > > … I am not wholly convinced of the accusation of plagiarism. The allegedly stolen lines are not quite identical, and express general, vague sentiments common in such speeches. Having some commonality in wording and turns of phrase is to be expected. As others have noted, the general sentiments are pretty common, but there are dozens and dozens of ways to express them. The sentence structure and the wording and the overall arrangement of the section clearly demonstrates that it has been lifted. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2016, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-national-convention/757729/431 "2016-07-19T16:47:21Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > Clearly, it is the other way around. Michelle stole it from Melania. Michelle _pre_-stole it from Melania 8 years ago! ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2016, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-national-convention/757729/432 "2016-07-19T16:48:46Z")
“She was widely read enough to appreciate my literary wit but not so widely read that she knew my sources. I like that in a woman.” - David Mitchell, _Cloud Atlas_ ---
**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2016, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-national-convention/757729/433 "2016-07-19T16:51:10Z")
Sky news just reported of shorts fired at a police transport vehicle in Cleveland ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2016, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-national-convention/757729/434 "2016-07-19T16:51:47Z")
> [@Steve\_MB](#): > > My guess is that the check bounced before the writer turned in the final copy. Nah, that’s not the Trump Way. The initial contract called for $10,000 to write Melania’s speech. When Trump got the speech, he told the writer that it was a poor job, and he’d only pay him $5,000, and if the writer didn’t accept it, Trump would tell the world that he was crappy writer. This is much more Trump’s style of business. The clever writer had put a couple of poison pills in the speech though; if he had been paid in full, he would have taken them out of the final copy. ---
**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2016, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-national-convention/757729/435 "2016-07-19T16:51:55Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > Well, part of the problem is that the anti-Trump, pro-Obama posters have attempted to move the goalposts on the issue. When it first became apparent Melania’s speech closely resembled Michelle Obama’s, the criticism and mockery had nothing to do with having not asked Michelle’s permission and everything to do with she didn’t write it herself and either copied it from Michelle or her speechwriter did. No, the mockery is mainly because the potential Republican First Lady stole her lines from the current Democratic First Lady. The one that the GOP wants us to know is terrible and horrible and wants children to eat vegetables like a freedom-stealing bugbear. Had Melania lifted lines from Nancy Reagan or Laura Bush or even Ann Romney, this wouldn’t have blown up anywhere near the same way. It’s all about her cribbing from the Obamas for a major RNC speech. ---
**Author:** ![leftfield6](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leftfield6/32/18780_2.png) [@leftfield6](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/leftfield6)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2016, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-national-convention/757729/436 "2016-07-19T16:53:43Z")
> [@davidm](#): > > Someone was bound to do this: > > [https://youtu.be/9KtzdP7mR-4](https://youtu.be/9KtzdP7mR-4) > [@susan](#): > > What I’d like to see is video of M Drumpf speaking with the audio replaced by M Obama’s speech. And the next line in the song is “never going to run around, and desert you.” Someone needs to do the video with images of Mrs T 1 and 2 superimposed over that line. ---
**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2016, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-national-convention/757729/437 "2016-07-19T17:01:14Z")
The more I think about it, this whole campaign seems like one huge farce. [ul] [li]Drawing applause for the sentiments of a despised opponent? Check.[/li][li]A Rick Roll in the middle of a potential first lady’s speech? Check.[/li][li]Stating outright that the Vice Presidential pick was done for political purposes? Check.[/li][li]Scott Baio is a first day speaker at the convention? Check.[/li][/ul] I won’t even bother to go on except to say that there’s a little part of me that’s starting to almost buy into the idea that the whole thing is intended to throw the election to the Democrats. Poe’s Law indeed. ---
**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2016, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-national-convention/757729/438 "2016-07-19T17:10:09Z")
> [@leftfield6](#): > > And the next line in the song is “never going to run around, and desert you.” Someone needs to do the video with images of Mrs T 1 and 2 superimposed over that line. leftfield, this is potentially warnable. You must have the John Oliver add on that changes ‘Trump’ to ‘Drumpf’. Find. But please be aware that it changes the text in quote boxes and - on the SDMB - those are sacred. I’m not warning you now but… Everyone. From this point on in this thread such events will earn warnings. So try to avoid such, please. ---
**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2016, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-national-convention/757729/439 "2016-07-19T17:24:17Z")
CNN: No one to be fired after plagiarism incident. > **[No one to be fired after Melania Trump speech plagiarism episode | CNN Politics](https://www.cnn.com/2016/07/19/politics/melania-trump-michelle-obama-speech/)** > > Donald Trump’s presidential campaign doesn’t plan to fire anybody or to take disciplinary action over the controversy surrounding Melania Trump’s plagiarism of Michelle Obama, CNN learned Tuesday. > [@](#): > > (CNN)Donald Trump’s presidential campaign has no plans to fire anybody on the campaign or to take any disciplinary action against anyone for the Melania Trump speech plagiarism controversy, CNN learned Tuesday. > As campaign chairman Paul Manafort indicated at his morning news conference, the campaign’s posture is to simply move on from this without addressing it any further. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2016, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-national-convention/757729/440 "2016-07-19T17:25:04Z")
> [@alphaboi867](#): > > So while watching the convention I’ve donated money to the Hillary Victory Fund, the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee, Planned Parenthood, and Katie McGinty. Heh. If instead of a drinking game, somebody came up with a “Donate to A Democrat” game when certain events occurred, this convention could be pretty lucrative for the Dems… [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-national-convention/757729.md?page=21) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-national-convention/757729.md?page=23)