# The Republican national Convention

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-national-convention/757729>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [June 18, 2016, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-national-convention/757729 "2016-06-18T21:53:17Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2016, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-national-convention/757729/742 "2016-07-20T20:04:08Z")

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> [@Jack\_Batty](#):
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> I don’t think Mike Judge and Seth McFarland combined could come up with shit weirder than what’s coming out of Trump’s run. I swear, I’m starting to like the guy. He is bringing the entertainment like nobody’s business. Can you imagine how fucked up this country would be if he were actually the goddamned President? Holy shit it would be one big glorious hot mess.
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> I mean, I just don’t remember laughing this hard, this often, with the last couple of presidential elections … and we had a Palin in there, ferchrissakes!
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> Long live the dumpster fire.

This is pretty much exactly the reasoning behind his supporters’ stated desire for him to become president in two different articles I posted over the past few weeks. I consider this an extremely irresponsible attitude, and a troubling sign that our society is becoming jaded and decadent to a dangerous degree.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2016, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-national-convention/757729/743 "2016-07-20T20:04:35Z")

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> [@kenobi\_65](#):
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> To the extent that there are _any_ “solid centre right guys” left in the Republican Party…

Seeing as how the “solid center right” party is in fact the Democratic Party, I’m going to guess that no, there aren’t.

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**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2016, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-national-convention/757729/744 "2016-07-20T20:06:26Z")

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> [@SlackerInc](#):
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> This is pretty much exactly the reasoning behind his supporters’ stated desire for him to become president in two different articles I posted over the past few weeks. I consider this an extremely irresponsible attitude, and a troubling sign that our society is becoming jaded and decadent to a dangerous degree.

Well, shit. Jaded and decadent are old friends of mine.

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**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2016, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-national-convention/757729/745 "2016-07-20T20:39:14Z")

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> [@kaylasdad99](#):
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> Seeing as how the “solid center right” party is in fact the Democratic Party…

Well, sure, when compared to liberal paradise parties like those in, oh, I don’t know, the U.S.S.R? Mao’s China? Cuba? 😃

No damn classism or exploitative free enterprise there! It was equal misery, privation and fear of midnight door knocks for all. But until you can manage to get the Dems as far left as you think they should be, these goals are just thwarted dreams, aren’t they?

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2016, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-national-convention/757729/746 "2016-07-20T20:40:58Z")

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I’m watching some of the discussion on CNN at the Convention Center. Almost can’t hear over the band rehearsing in the background.  
Springsteen’s _Born In The U.S.A._  
Another dumbfuck Republican who hasn’t read the lyrics.

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**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2016, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-national-convention/757729/747 "2016-07-20T20:53:39Z")

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> [@That\_Don\_Guy](#):
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> I don’t know about Alaska’s rules, but here’s why DC had to vote for Trump (and presumably, once a similar provision in Alaska’s delegate selection plan was found, DC didn’t challenge it):
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> **[DC Delegate Selection Plan](http://dcgop.com/dc-state-convention/dc-gop-delegate-selection-plan/), Section V, Paragraph 8:**  
> _“However, notwithstanding the above, **if only one candidate’s name is placed in nomination at the Republican National Convention, all delegates shall be bound to vote for such candidate on the first ballot** provided that the candidate received votes in the DC presidential preference poll.”_

I love it. They force themselves to vote for whoever is the name placed in nomination at the Convention rather than own up to having voted for someone other than the guy who’s backstage.

All these ploys to stamp down last minute challenges and ensure a smooth coronation of a proper candidate, blowing up in the party’s face when stuck with an IMproper candidate, are perverse fun.

I mean, I understand what they were intending to do, but really, you should just let the votes be counted. So the people of your state voted for someone other than the presumptive. Own it.

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> Something else I noticed (unless I missed it happening): traditionally, each convention asks that the Presidential nominee be “elected unanimously” once the actual vote is over. I didn’t see them do this for Trump.

Yes there is a tradition to once the candidate’s “over the top” someone makes a motion to suspend the rule and proceed to election by “acclamation” – but not in this convention, not this year; they were going to work-to-rule.

Puerto Rico proudly if mootly cast its 23 delegate votes for Marco Rubio, making good on my friends the local GOP Chairwoman and National Committeeman’s NeverTrump posture. Around here the usual strategy if the winner of the PR primary/caucus is not the presumptive in the end is to count on that _in a normal convention_, they’ll lay low and pass if necessary until the acclamation comes around.

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**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2016, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-national-convention/757729/748 "2016-07-20T21:01:11Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> I’m watching some of the discussion on CNN at the Convention Center. Almost can’t hear over the band rehearsing in the background.  
> Springsteen’s _Born In The U.S.A._  
> Another dumbfuck Republican who hasn’t read the lyrics.

Yup, going back to Reagan '84.

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**Author:** ![Princhester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Princhester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Princhester)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2016, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-national-convention/757729/749 "2016-07-20T21:42:27Z")

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I though Springsteen had refused Pubbies permission to use it?

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2016, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-national-convention/757729/750 "2016-07-20T21:42:56Z")

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> [@Starving\_Artist](#):
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> Well, sure, when compared to liberal paradise parties like those in, oh, I don’t know, the U.S.S.R? Mao’s China? Cuba? 😃
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> No damn classism or exploitative free enterprise there! It was equal misery, privation and fear of midnight door knocks for all. But until you can manage to get the Dems as far left as you think they should be, these goals are just thwarted dreams, aren’t they?

What a bizarre outburst.

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**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2016, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-national-convention/757729/751 "2016-07-20T21:45:58Z")

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Especially since liberals would say that’s exactly what conservatives, especially social conservatives like him, want, only he doesn’t think it’s a big deal because it’d be against people he doesn’t like.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2016, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-national-convention/757729/752 "2016-07-20T21:49:53Z")

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> [@raventhief](#):
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> So Melania plagiarized, but the staffer is the one to blame for not catching the plagiarism?

Those responsible for sacking the people who have just been sacked have been sacked.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2016, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-national-convention/757729/753 "2016-07-20T21:55:19Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> So, two days down and we’ve already had rampant plagiarism, outright laziness, poor planning, a floor fight, primal anger and hatred, demands that the opposition candidate be jailed without a trial (if not outright killed), and naked fascism on parade.
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> What’s next?

Maybe connecting the opposition with Lucifer. Oh wait, that was last night, too.

Millivanillia’s speech was actually the only _non_-offensive one we’ve been treated to so far. And that includes the invocation.

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**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2016, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-national-convention/757729/754 "2016-07-20T21:56:48Z")

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> [@El\_Kabong](#):
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> What a bizarre outburst.

Thank you.

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**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2016, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-national-convention/757729/755 "2016-07-20T22:00:33Z")

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[https://www.facebook.com/topic/The-Late-Show-With-Stephen-Colbert/478866628906448?source=whfrt&position=3&trqid=6309528488803338341](https://www.facebook.com/topic/The-Late-Show-With-Stephen-Colbert/478866628906448?source=whfrt&position=3&trqid=6309528488803338341)

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**Author:** ![Enginerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bcef8e/32.png) [@Enginerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enginerd)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2016, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-national-convention/757729/756 "2016-07-20T22:06:34Z")

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> [@Princhester](#):
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> I though Springsteen had refused Pubbies permission to use it?

[warning: non-lawyer talking law ahead]  
I think there’s a difference between live performances and playing commercially released recordings. Live performances of previously-released music can be licensed more or less automatically by paying a set fee through a venue’s agreement with a musical licensing agency (e.g. ASCAP). This form of licensing allows cover bands in bars, for example. In this case, the performers are licensed to reinterpret the musical composition.

That’s different from playing a copyrighted recording of the same song. So the Pubbies can’t put a Springsteen CD on, but GE Smith and friends can go to town on Born in the USA without any legal impediment.

Why the crippling irony doesn’t stop them is anyone’s guess. 😃

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**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2016, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-national-convention/757729/757 "2016-07-20T22:09:04Z")

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> [@Steve\_MB](#):
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> This is America – if English is a “foreign language” to her, she should GTFO.
> 
> So saith the Party of Trump.

Sure, but you have to realize… she’s hot so it’s different.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2016, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-national-convention/757729/758 "2016-07-20T22:12:37Z")

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> [@Princhester](#):
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> I though Springsteen had refused Pubbies permission to use it?

1. The Convention Center would have the required performance licenses.
2. It’s a cover band, no confusing them with Springsteen or giving the impression that Springsteen is a Trump supporter.

ETA: Or what **Enginerd** said.

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**Author:** ![Maastricht](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a88e57/32.png) [@Maastricht](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maastricht)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2016, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-national-convention/757729/759 "2016-07-20T22:13:14Z")

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Actually, Starving Artist, not only are de Democrats right of center, compared to center Dutch political parties. Even Bernie Sanders is right of center compared to mainstream Dutch politics. What Bernie wants for the US, we already have in the Netherlands, and more, and we’re doing pretty okay.

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**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2016, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-national-convention/757729/760 "2016-07-20T22:15:12Z")

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Yeah, but apparently European happiness doesn’t count, according to conservatives. You’d be much happier with systems more like the United States’, even if none of them can convincingly tell you why.

Or else sucking at the government teat for so long has made you all delusional, and you’ll all regret it when it collapses in the next generation or so. Either or

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**Post date:** [July 20, 2016, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-national-convention/757729/761 "2016-07-20T22:21:01Z")

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Well said, **Leaper**.

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