# The Republican national Convention

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-national-convention/757729>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [June 18, 2016, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-national-convention/757729 "2016-06-18T21:53:17Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2016, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-national-convention/757729/842 "2016-07-21T02:59:28Z")

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> [@UltraVires](#):
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> It’s one thing to stand on your own feet, but yet another to go to someone else’s social event and shit all over it. Classless by Ted Cruz.
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> If he cannot endorse Trump, then he should have politely declined to speak at the convention.

There is literally nothing someone could do to lower the classiness of this convention. It’s seemingly designed for pointing and laughing, with a little bit of condemnation mixed in. Let’s not pretend these are reasonable people doing acceptable things.

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**Author:** ![splatterpunk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3be4f8/32.png) [@splatterpunk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/splatterpunk)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2016, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-national-convention/757729/843 "2016-07-21T03:00:29Z")

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> [@UltraVires](#):
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> It’s one thing to stand on your own feet, but yet another to go to someone else’s social event and shit all over it. Classless by Ted Cruz.
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> If he cannot endorse Trump, then he should have politely declined to speak at the convention.

Exactly! Trump has been a model of class and decorum throughout this campaign. He deserves the same respect he’s shown for other candidates!

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**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2016, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-national-convention/757729/844 "2016-07-21T03:01:48Z")

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> [@AnalogSignal](#):
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> I strongly dislike Cruz and his politics but I gotta admit he is no one’s bitch.

Either that, or he’s still butthurt over being elbowed out of the nomination. I’m going with door number two myself.

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**Author:** ![AnalogSignal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/analogsignal/32/1085_2.png) [@AnalogSignal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AnalogSignal)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2016, 3:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-national-convention/757729/845 "2016-07-21T03:02:18Z")

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Pence is smooth but dull. I am feeling sleepy watching him. I guess Trump has enough controversy in his organization.

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**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2016, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-national-convention/757729/846 "2016-07-21T03:03:57Z")

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> [@AnalogSignal](#):
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> Pence is smooth but dull. I am feeling sleepy watching him. I guess Trump has enough controversy in his organization.

Wasn’t he the guy Trump was thinking of picking for VP? I can’t keep track.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2016, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-national-convention/757729/847 "2016-07-21T03:04:08Z")

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> [@Starving\_Artist](#):
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> Doesn’t bother you guys when Biden or Obama does it, and in Obama’s case multiple times.

Biden lost his campaign for President.

[Snopes on Obama](http://www.snopes.com/2016/07/20/barack-obama-vs-deval-patrick/)

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> As expected, Hillary Clinton’s campaign staff was quick to accuse Obama of plagiarism for nicking a few lines from someone else’s speech. Senator Obama maintained that he and Deval were friends and that Deval himself had suggested that he use the lines, while acknowledging that he should have given Deval credit nonetheless:

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**Author:** ![splatterpunk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3be4f8/32.png) [@splatterpunk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/splatterpunk)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2016, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-national-convention/757729/848 "2016-07-21T03:04:58Z")

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> [@Starving\_Artist](#):
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> Doesn’t bother you guys when Biden or Obama does it, and in Obama’s case multiple times.

Remember that time at Thanksgiving, when you were at the kids’ table, and kept trying to get the attention of the adults by tattling on some other kid, and the adults kept telling you to go play?

Go play.

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**Author:** ![UltraVires](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ecccb3/32.png) [@UltraVires](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UltraVires)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2016, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-national-convention/757729/849 "2016-07-21T03:05:32Z")

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> [@Onomatopoeia](#):
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> Not buying it. She stood stock straight in that reprehensible pose for a beat before letting it drop into a wave. Disgusting.

You caught us. We try to tell people at GOP gatherings that our secret should stay a secret and to never do the salute where others can see it. Fucking Laura Ingraham is going to blow the whole deal. :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![AnalogSignal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/analogsignal/32/1085_2.png) [@AnalogSignal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AnalogSignal)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2016, 3:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-national-convention/757729/850 "2016-07-21T03:06:54Z")

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So far the big headlines of the RNC have been:

1. Melania plagiarizes Michelle Obama.
2. Ted Cruz goes rogue and does not endorse Trump.

It has not been a good convention for the Big Cheeto.

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**Author:** ![UltraVires](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ecccb3/32.png) [@UltraVires](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UltraVires)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2016, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-national-convention/757729/851 "2016-07-21T03:07:09Z")

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> [@AnalogSignal](#):
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> Pence is smooth but dull. I am feeling sleepy watching him. I guess Trump has enough controversy in his organization.

Agreed. He lacks something. No charisma.

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**Author:** ![The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_stainless_steel_rat/32/5727_2.png) [@The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Stainless_Steel_Rat)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2016, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-national-convention/757729/852 "2016-07-21T03:07:14Z")

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> [@UltraVires](#):
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> 1. She was waving at supporters.

Well, I don’t think she’s a secret Nazi, but for a heartbeat or two that arm _was_ stiff (no bending at the elbow) and the hand _wasn’t_ moving–it didn’t look like a wave, or that she was pointing/acknowleging somebody…it looked just like a Nazi salute.

It is a puzzlement.

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**Author:** ![AnalogSignal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/analogsignal/32/1085_2.png) [@AnalogSignal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AnalogSignal)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2016, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-national-convention/757729/853 "2016-07-21T03:07:57Z")

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> [@Procrustus](#):
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> Wasn’t he the guy Trump was thinking of picking for VP? I can’t keep track.

Pence is the VP pick.

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**Author:** ![67java89](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/6/aeb1de/32.png) [@67java89](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/67java89)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2016, 3:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-national-convention/757729/854 "2016-07-21T03:12:01Z")

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> [@AnalogSignal](#):
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> Lyin’ Ted Cruz congratulated Trump on the nomination but did NOT endorse him or say anything good about him. The crowd was chanting against Cruz when they realized he was going rogue. A mini insurgency on center stage. Good stuff!

Someone is going to end up killing him.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2016, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-national-convention/757729/855 "2016-07-21T03:13:07Z")

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Heh, my 87-year-old mother is sitting there listening to Mike Pence bloviate, and chanting “Bullshit, bullshit, bullshit, bullshit.”

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**Author:** ![AnalogSignal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/analogsignal/32/1085_2.png) [@AnalogSignal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AnalogSignal)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2016, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-national-convention/757729/856 "2016-07-21T03:15:57Z")

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Pence’s family consists of normal humans instead of supermodels.

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**Author:** ![AnalogSignal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/analogsignal/32/1085_2.png) [@AnalogSignal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AnalogSignal)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2016, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-national-convention/757729/857 "2016-07-21T03:17:05Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Heh, my 87-year-old mother is sitting there listening to Mike Pence bloviate, and chanting “Bullshit, bullshit, bullshit, bullshit.”

Bravo mom!

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**Author:** ![Onomatopoeia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/onomatopoeia/32/4145_2.png) [@Onomatopoeia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Onomatopoeia)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2016, 3:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-national-convention/757729/858 "2016-07-21T03:23:02Z")

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> [@The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](#):
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> Well, I don’t think she’s a secret Nazi, but for a heartbeat or two that arm _was_ stiff (no bending at the elbow) and the hand _wasn’t_ moving–it didn’t look like a wave, or that she was pointing/acknowleging somebody…it looked just like a Nazi salute.
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> It is a puzzlement.

Perhaps she was simply pantomiming the second tone in the five tone greeting for the aliens in Close Encounters of the Third Kind. Hey, it is no more ridiculous than any of the excuses I expect to hear about it tomorrow.

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**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2016, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-national-convention/757729/859 "2016-07-21T03:26:05Z")

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> [@Starving\_Artist](#):
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> Either that, or he’s still butthurt over being elbowed out of the nomination. I’m going with door number two myself.

Or you know, the attacks on his wife, the accusations against his dad…the fact that he didn’t literally flip Trump off shows a lot of restraint in my opinion.

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**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2016, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-national-convention/757729/860 "2016-07-21T03:26:56Z")

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> [@UltraVires](#):
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> Agreed. He lacks something. No charisma.

Looking at Pence, he meets two critical standards. The aforementioned lack of charisma, and he’s much shorter than Trump.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2016, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-national-convention/757729/861 "2016-07-21T03:29:25Z")

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> [@Tangent](#):
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> Well, it’s a 50/50 chance, so I’m going with #1.

She was waving at the crowd but she held the classic pose just too long to explain away.  
Bend the elbow, keep the hand moving at the wrist. That’s how you greet a crowd.

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