# The Republican national Convention **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [June 18, 2016, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-national-convention/757729 "2016-06-18T21:53:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 59
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2016, 3:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-national-convention/757729/1162 "2016-07-22T03:24:46Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > Now he’s on an actual strength. His VA plan is actually quite good. Other than how he’d pay for it, of course. By reducing taxes on everybody with the biggest tax reduction in history (his words). Duh. ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2016, 3:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-national-convention/757729/1163 "2016-07-22T03:24:49Z")
> [@DerekMichaels00](#): > > talking about changing the system sounds good, but its never going to change; this is politics filled with people trying to get ahead and asking millions of people for votes, which typifies “a friend to all is a friend to none.” You can’t change people, but you can change the system. Eliminating earmarks was one small way to do that. It changed the incentives. That’s how you change systems, you change the built in incentives. One positive aspect of the Trump candidacy is that it’s making Big Money impotent, as well as the standard campaign lies and spin. Clinton has blown through millions trying to bring his poll numbers down and she’s failed. All the spin and professional handlers in the world has led to her leading by 3 points. That’s what change looks like. Now if only we can get decent candidates to run in this changed environment. ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2016, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-national-convention/757729/1164 "2016-07-22T03:26:18Z")
> [@ZipperJJ](#): > > This speech sure sounds like a whole lot of Big Government to me. Yup. Trump is not a small government conservative. He’s not even a conservative. This is the Democratic Party circa 1960. ---
**Author:** ![leftfield6](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leftfield6/32/18780_2.png) [@leftfield6](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/leftfield6)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2016, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-national-convention/757729/1165 "2016-07-22T03:26:24Z")
Just saw a tweet that Molly McIver has already posted a statement apologizing for this speech as well. :p:p ---
**Author:** ![Drum\_God](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drum_god/32/44_2.png) [@Drum\_God](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drum_God)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2016, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-national-convention/757729/1166 "2016-07-22T03:26:27Z")
Lyndon Johnson pushed the anti-establishment clause of the First Amendment? What? ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2016, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-national-convention/757729/1167 "2016-07-22T03:27:09Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > In what way does Clinton plan to change the system? In what way does she plan to challenge the Beltway conventional wisdom? What current Obama policies will she change? Here’s a thought-Rather than believe a word of what Trump has said about what Clinton’s policies are going to be, why don’t you listen to her acceptance speech during the Democratic Convention and find out first hand? I can almost guarantee there will be more substance in her speech than what you heard tonight. ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2016, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-national-convention/757729/1168 "2016-07-22T03:27:37Z")
The IRS rule governing tax exempt religious organizations. Trump is going to get that repealed. It’s long overdue, that law was never passed transparently and it was more about retaliation against political opponents than anything else. ---
**Author:** ![Bridget\_Burke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7cd45c/32.png) [@Bridget\_Burke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bridget_Burke)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2016, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-national-convention/757729/1169 "2016-07-22T03:27:40Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > In what way does Clinton plan to change the system? In what way does she plan to challenge the Beltway conventional wisdom? What current Obama policies will she change? What are the most heinous policies of Barack Hussein Obama that need changing? Most of Your Guy’s supporters hate him because a black (well, non-white) was elected President. Twice. Ms Clinton has never preached Revolution. She’s intelligent. And sane. (Please define “Beltway conventional wisdom.” Don’t just repeat phrases you heard somewhere.) ---
**Author:** ![YogSothoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/8edcca/32.png) [@YogSothoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YogSothoth)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2016, 3:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-national-convention/757729/1170 "2016-07-22T03:28:25Z")
Wow, Trump just called for a religious theocracy… ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2016, 3:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-national-convention/757729/1171 "2016-07-22T03:28:46Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > Here’s a thought-Rather than believe a word of what Trump has said about what Clinton’s policies are going to be, why don’t you listen to her acceptance speech during the Democratic Convention and find out first hand? I can almost guarantee there will be more substance in her speech than what you heard tonight. I’ll be very interested. But standard Democratic or Republican policies are not change. That is the very definition of the status quo. ---
**Author:** ![leftfield6](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leftfield6/32/18780_2.png) [@leftfield6](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/leftfield6)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2016, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-national-convention/757729/1172 "2016-07-22T03:29:12Z")
He loves those people, the carpenters and the bricklayers. He just doesn’t always pay them. ---
**Author:** ![DerekMichaels00](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f14d63/32.png) [@DerekMichaels00](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DerekMichaels00)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2016, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-national-convention/757729/1173 "2016-07-22T03:29:29Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > You can’t change people, but you can change the system. Eliminating earmarks was one small way to do that. It changed the incentives. That’s how you change systems, you change the built in incentives. > > One positive aspect of the Trump candidacy is that it’s making Big Money impotent, as well as the standard campaign lies and spin. Clinton has blown through millions trying to bring his poll numbers down and she’s failed. All the spin and professional handlers in the world has led to her leading by 3 points. > > That’s what change looks like. Now if only we can get decent candidates to run in this changed environment. then maybe the solution is that only celebrities with popular TV shows and series, movie cameos, books, and selling buildings with one’s name on it, should run for POTUS or any political office? Trumpism is unsustainable. He’s only up there because of that, not even just the money itself, tho without it, he’d be nothing. ---
**Author:** ![leftfield6](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leftfield6/32/18780_2.png) [@leftfield6](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/leftfield6)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2016, 3:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-national-convention/757729/1174 "2016-07-22T03:30:29Z")
The longest acceptance speech since 1972, according to CSPAN Takes him a long time to say nothing. ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2016, 3:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-national-convention/757729/1175 "2016-07-22T03:30:33Z")
> [@Bridget\_Burke](#): > > What are the most heinous policies of Barack Hussein Obama that need changing? Most of Your Guy’s supporters hate him because a black (well, non-white) was elected President. Twice. > ) So she’s not going to change things. She’s going to continue the policies of the last eight years. It’s okay to think that’s just fine, but you don’t need to defend against every attack on Clinton. She’s not perfect. Some attacks will be fair and accurate. ---
**Author:** ![China\_Guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/779978/32.png) [@China\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/China_Guy)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2016, 3:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-national-convention/757729/1176 "2016-07-22T03:31:03Z")
I’m just catching part of this. What problem doesn’t The Donald fix? Build a wall, cut taxes for everyone, college kids get taken care of, veterans go to any hospital they chose, Obamacare repealed and replaced so everyone gets the doctor they want, kids will all have great schools better than public ones, eliminate waste, build all the infrastructure needed to be upgraded in America, appoint justices to the right of Scalia, renegotiate all trade agreements, etc. There was more but net net he all but promised everyone in America a pony. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2016, 3:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-national-convention/757729/1177 "2016-07-22T03:31:23Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > You can’t change people, but you can change the system. Eliminating earmarks was one small way to do that. It changed the incentives. That’s how you change systems, you change the built in incentives. > > One positive aspect of the Trump candidacy is that it’s making Big Money impotent, as well as the standard campaign lies and spin. Clinton has blown through millions trying to bring his poll numbers down and she’s failed. All the spin and professional handlers in the world has led to her leading by 3 points. > > That’s what change looks like. Now if only we can get decent candidates to run in this changed environment. This is Donald Trump you are believing. This is a man that will say _anything_ to seal the deal(and that’s a play right out of his own book), then do everything possible once he gets what he wants not to have to pay for it. Everything he does, he does for one man only-_himself_. ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2016, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-national-convention/757729/1178 "2016-07-22T03:32:29Z")
> [@DerekMichaels00](#): > > then maybe the solution is that only celebrities with popular TV shows and series, movie cameos, books, and selling buildings with one’s name on it, should run for POTUS or any political office? > > Trumpism is unsustainable. One way is to only support the more independent types such as John McCain or Joe Lieberman for the Presidency. Clinton was that guy. It can work, it’s just that the problem in our modern age is that candidates have to be exciting. Even some very smart people on SDMB who should know better support their candidates based on the excitement level. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2016, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-national-convention/757729/1179 "2016-07-22T03:33:12Z")
He keeps building to his climactic crescendo, and then keeps talking. ---
**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2016, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-national-convention/757729/1180 "2016-07-22T03:33:27Z")
> [@leftfield6](#): > > The longest acceptance speech since 1972, according to CSPAN > > Takes him a long time to say nothing. Hey, maybe that’s why he was able to stay on script: because he knew he’d be center stage for so long. ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2016, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-national-convention/757729/1181 "2016-07-22T03:33:30Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > This is Donald Trump you are believing. This is a man that will say _anything_ to seal the deal(and that’s a play right out of his own book), then do everything possible once he gets what he wants not to have to pay for it. Everything he does, he does for one man only-_himself_. I’m not believing anything he says that isn’t factual. I don’t believe for a minute that he will pay for what he is promising. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-national-convention/757729.md?page=58) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-national-convention/757729.md?page=60)