# The Republican national Convention

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-national-convention/757729>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [June 18, 2016, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-national-convention/757729 "2016-06-18T21:53:17Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2016, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-national-convention/757729/1382 "2016-07-23T18:58:48Z")

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If it wasn’t an ass grab, why did Ivanka recoil like that?

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**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2016, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-national-convention/757729/1383 "2016-07-24T00:40:32Z")

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The bandicoot on his scalp snarled at her

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**Author:** ![Tangent](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tangent/32/3098_2.png) [@Tangent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tangent)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2016, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-national-convention/757729/1384 "2016-07-24T01:00:11Z")

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Here is a [screen-grab of Donald and Ivanka](http://i.onionstatic.com/avclub/5415/14/original/640.jpg).

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2016, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-national-convention/757729/1385 "2016-07-24T01:11:44Z")

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One from Facebook: “Imagine what Republicans would have said if Barack Obama had showed up at his 2008 convention featuring 5 kids by 3 different women.”

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2016, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-national-convention/757729/1386 "2016-07-24T03:17:44Z")

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Trump was fruitful and multiplied. Gen. 1:28. Conservative Christians can’t help but approve.

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**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2016, 3:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-national-convention/757729/1387 "2016-07-24T03:35:10Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> One from Facebook: “Imagine what Republicans would have said if Barack Obama had showed up at his 2008 convention featuring 5 kids by 3 different women.”

Yeah, but at least he didn’t father any \*black \*babies. I hear the current White House occupant may have fathered up to two.

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**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2016, 4:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-national-convention/757729/1388 "2016-07-24T04:03:43Z")

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Washington Post Editorial Board: [Donald Trump is a unique threat to American democracy](https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/donald-trump-is-a-unique-threat-to-american-democracy/2016/07/22/a6d823cc-4f4f-11e6-aa14-e0c1087f7583_story.html)

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> DONALD J. TRUMP, until now a Republican problem, this week became a challenge the nation must confront and overcome. The real estate tycoon is uniquely unqualified to serve as president, in experience and temperament. He is mounting a campaign of snarl and sneer, not substance. To the extent he has views, they are wrong in their diagnosis of America’s problems and dangerous in their proposed solutions. Mr. Trump’s politics of denigration and division could strain the bonds that have held a diverse nation together. His contempt for constitutional norms might reveal the nation’s two-century-old experiment in checks and balances to be more fragile than we knew.
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> Any one of these characteristics would be disqualifying; together, they make Mr. Trump a peril. We recognize that this is not the usual moment to make such a statement. In an ordinary election year, we would acknowledge the Republican nominee, move on to the Democratic convention and spend the following months, like other voters, evaluating the candidates’ performance in debates, on the stump and in position papers. This year we will follow the campaign as always, offering honest views on all the candidates. But we cannot salute the Republican nominee or pretend that we might endorse him this fall. A Trump presidency would be dangerous for the nation and the world…

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2016, 4:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-national-convention/757729/1389 "2016-07-24T04:22:54Z")

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> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#):
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> Yeah, but at least he didn’t father any \*black \*babies. I hear the current White House occupant may have fathered up to two.

Now that’s not true, and you know it. Michelle is a man, baby! And those babies were adopted from Morocco. Why, there are no birth certificates!

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**Author:** ![TonySinclair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/49beb7/32.png) [@TonySinclair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TonySinclair)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2016, 5:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-national-convention/757729/1390 "2016-07-24T05:05:51Z")

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> [@Tangent](#):
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> Here is a [screen-grab of Donald and Ivanka](http://i.onionstatic.com/avclub/5415/14/original/640.jpg).

Looks more like Roger Ailes and Gretchen Carlson.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2016, 3:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-national-convention/757729/1391 "2016-07-25T03:45:24Z")

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Stephen Colbert referred to Ailes recently as “Fox News president and a noted Jabba the Hutt cosplayer.”

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**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2016, 4:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-national-convention/757729/1392 "2016-07-25T04:04:40Z")

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> [@coremelt](#):
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> Oh come on, just be honest and admit you’re going to support Trump even if he’s found guilty of child rape. As I posted before there are 100s of court records available, they’re public record, multiple media agencies have gone through them and come to the same conclusion.

I recall that Starving Artist has said that he’s not going to vote for Trump.

SA has followed Trump for a while and it’s going to require some adjustment to the fact that the author of [_Art of the Deal_](http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2016/07/25/donald-trumps-ghostwriter-tells-all) thinks he was writing a puff piece as opposed to an analysis of Trump’s dealings. There’s also an underlying MBA issue: how is it possible for Trump to juggle these balls for so long? There’s a business process story that deserves exploration once the imminent threat to the nation’s well being is resolved.

> [@Starving Artist](#):
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> I would imagine also that New York City building contractors are a petty rough bunch and not all that inclined to give up hundreds of thousands or millions of dollars just because legal fees would eat up most of what was being contested.

Presumably some are. But I doubt whether my family friend or [this guy](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1-zqVna4qs) made regular use of hired muscle. Also to be honest I meant, “Contractors and subcontractors”. The latter aren’t necessarily doing deals in the hundred million dollar range. You might also note that Trump appears to prey on weakness. If he offers you 70%, _do not budge initially_. You are over your head: he’s testing you. Get some legal help. Consider charging him interest.

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**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2016, 4:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-national-convention/757729/1393 "2016-07-25T04:12:18Z")

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Seems like the Dope is 95% anti-Trump. Make me wonder if we should recruit some Trumpers, if only for election season.

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**Author:** ![Merneith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/57b2e6/32.png) [@Merneith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merneith)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2016, 4:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-national-convention/757729/1394 "2016-07-25T04:20:54Z")

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So … what? Like an affirmative action program?

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2016, 4:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-national-convention/757729/1395 "2016-07-25T04:41:57Z")

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We’ll call it our Outreach Around Program!

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**Author:** ![coremelt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4491bb/32.png) [@coremelt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/coremelt)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2016, 5:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-national-convention/757729/1396 "2016-07-25T05:59:30Z")

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> [@adaher](#):
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> Seems like the Dope is 95% anti-Trump. Make me wonder if we should recruit some Trumpers, if only for election season.

Trust me, we really don’t want that. I have yet to find one single example of a forum where Trump supporters are willing to have actual debate. It’s just memes, catch phrases and shouting people down.

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**Author:** ![Princhester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Princhester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Princhester)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2016, 6:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-national-convention/757729/1397 "2016-07-25T06:46:10Z")

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> [@susan](#):
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> Washington Post Editorial Board: [Donald Trump is a unique threat to American democracy](https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/donald-trump-is-a-unique-threat-to-american-democracy/2016/07/22/a6d823cc-4f4f-11e6-aa14-e0c1087f7583_story.html)

I read one of the links off that story leading to a [story mainly about his arguably dodgiest business dealing](https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/as-its-stock-collapsed-trumps-firm-gave-him-huge-bonuses-and-paid-for-his-jet/2016/06/12/58458918-2766-11e6-b989-4e5479715b54_story.html): his public float of his hotel and casino empire.

The guy is a straight out criminal. He basically defrauded people of hundreds of millions of dollars. And what really had me stunned was his admission that:

> [@Trump](#):
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> “Entrepreneurially speaking, not necessarily from the standpoint of running a company but from an entrepreneur’s standpoint, [the stock offering] was one of the great deals”.

When you read the whole article you realise that when he said “entrepreneurially speaking” he meant “from the point of view of a self interested criminal”. When he said the offering was “one of the great deals” he meant it was one of his great cons. When he referred to the deal not being great from the standpoint of “running a company” he meant that it wasn’t great that he used his position as chairman to steal his shareholders’ funds.

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**Author:** ![glee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b5a626/32.png) [@glee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/glee)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2016, 9:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-national-convention/757729/1398 "2016-07-25T09:43:42Z")

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> [@adaher](#):
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> Seems like the Dope is 95% anti-Trump. Make me wonder if we should recruit some Trumpers, if only for election season.

I expect the World is 95% anti-Trump (apart from North Korea and Russia.)

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**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2016, 9:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-national-convention/757729/1399 "2016-07-25T09:51:04Z")

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> [@adaher](#):
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> Seems like the Dope is 95% anti-Trump. Make me wonder if we should recruit some Trumpers, if only for election season.

Because this forum would be better with more people who are incredibly stupid or what?

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2016, 1:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-national-convention/757729/1400 "2016-07-25T13:37:06Z")

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Deformative action.

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**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2016, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-national-convention/757729/1401 "2016-07-25T15:00:10Z")

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The GOP convention appears to have been a resounding success somehow. Trump is now clearly in the lead and got a legit bounce:

[http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general\_election\_trump\_vs\_clinton-5491.html](http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_clinton-5491.html)

He leads in every post-convention poll taken so far.

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