# The Republican national Convention

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-national-convention/757729>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [June 18, 2016, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-national-convention/757729 "2016-06-18T21:53:17Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 8

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2016, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-national-convention/757729/141 "2016-07-18T20:48:46Z")

</div>

> [@That\_Don\_Guy](#):
>
> Tuesday, presumably in the 10-11 PM Eastern timeslot, so all of the networks can carry it.
> 
> What state is expected to put Trump “over the top”? If it’s New Jersey, then somebody had better count the delegates to see if the states before NJ have enough Trump delegates to do this (a few would pass if they have too many) - otherwise they have to go through the entire list and then go back to states that would have to pass a second time.

Don’t they always make sure that the candidate’s home state puts them over the top? That would be New York, in both conventions.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2016, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-national-convention/757729/142 "2016-07-18T20:55:15Z")

</div>

I had to laugh at this morning’s Sacramento Bee for running an article about California delegates to the Republican convention. They seem to have gone out of their way to find a gay man, a man born in India, a man born in Italy, a black woman, and two who used to be Democrats. I wish they had given us a complete demographic breakdown of the delegation.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2016, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-national-convention/757729/143 "2016-07-18T21:18:27Z")

</div>

Well, good, in a backhanded way. If they are uncomfortable enough to be hypocrites, then they concede that we have a point.

“Hyocrisy is the pretty compliment that vice pays to virtue”

- Some French guy, long ass name, not one of the usual.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![hermitcrab](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/6f9a4e/32.png) [@hermitcrab](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hermitcrab)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2016, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-national-convention/757729/144 "2016-07-18T21:24:28Z")

</div>

> [@JohnT](#):
>
> Is it traditional to refer to the nominee as “the presumptive nominee” during the convention?

nah, i think by this point he should be called the “Hair Apparent”

:rimshot:

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![That\_Don\_Guy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/that_don_guy/32/538_2.png) [@That\_Don\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/That_Don_Guy)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2016, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-national-convention/757729/145 "2016-07-18T21:31:25Z")

</div>

> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
>
> Don’t they always make sure that the candidate’s home state puts them over the top? That would be New York, in both conventions.

Going by the counts at TheGreenPapers, I can see New York putting Trump over in two ways:

1. California, New York, and and South Carolina pass - the only problem with this is, California has to pass twice, although it’s not that big of a problem as it would go the complete list, then California, New York, South Carolina, and California. (“California, the state that gets other states’ Republicans elected to Congress by sending them the money saved by not running campaign ads here (and they don’t), passes”)

2. If they don’t want states passing twice, at least five states besides NY have to pass - for example, New York, South Carolina, Tennessee, Texas, Vermont, and Washington.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2016, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-national-convention/757729/146 "2016-07-18T21:35:07Z")

</div>

> [@Merneith](#):
>
> Is there a list somewhere of just the musical acts? I was curious about the tamborine man just before the rules adoption lady.

It was described by C-SPAN as (paraphrase) “while arm-twisting goes on in back room, house band plays loud.”

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2016, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-national-convention/757729/147 "2016-07-18T21:44:06Z")

</div>

Members of the Iowa and Colorado delegations have walked out, and Ken Cuccinelli, former Virginia gubernatorial candidate, was seeing throwing his credentials to the floor in frustration, after whoever was chairing at that moment overrode a call for a roll call vote on the rules and declared they were passed.

> **[Chaos on Republican convention floor; Colorado, Iowa delegates walk out](https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2016/7/18/1549441/-Chaos-on-Republican-convention-floor-Colorado-Iowa-delegates-walk-out?detail=facebook)**
>
> All hell has broken loose on the convention floor in this first session of the Republican National Convention, as the Republican chair refuses a request for a roll call vote on the Rules package. There appear to have been two separate voice...

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Merneith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/57b2e6/32.png) [@Merneith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merneith)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2016, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-national-convention/757729/148 "2016-07-18T21:57:41Z")

</div>

> [@Frank](#):
>
> It was described by C-SPAN as (paraphrase) “while arm-twisting goes on in back room, house band plays loud.”

ROFL - I’ve always assumed a house band was there to cover the screaming in the kitchen.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2016, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-national-convention/757729/149 "2016-07-18T22:07:09Z")

</div>

> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
>
> Members of the Iowa and Colorado delegations have walked out, and Ken Cuccinelli, former Virginia gubernatorial candidate, was seeing throwing his credentials to the floor in frustration, after whoever was chairing at that moment overrode a call for a roll call vote on the rules and declared they were passed.
> 
> [http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2016/7/18/1549441/-Chaos-on-Republican-convention-floor-Colorado-Iowa-delegates-walk-out?detail=facebook](http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2016/7/18/1549441/-Chaos-on-Republican-convention-floor-Colorado-Iowa-delegates-walk-out?detail=facebook)

Didn’t take long to get chaotic lol

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2016, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-national-convention/757729/150 "2016-07-18T22:18:30Z")

</div>

The whole world is retching! The whole world is retching!

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2016, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-national-convention/757729/151 "2016-07-18T22:37:25Z")

</div>

> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
>
> Members of the Iowa and Colorado delegations have walked out, and Ken Cuccinelli, former Virginia gubernatorial candidate, was seeing throwing his credentials to the floor in frustration, after whoever was chairing at that moment overrode a call for a roll call vote on the rules and declared they were passed.
> 
> [http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2016/7/18/1549441/-Chaos-on-Republican-convention-floor-Colorado-Iowa-delegates-walk-out?detail=facebook](http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2016/7/18/1549441/-Chaos-on-Republican-convention-floor-Colorado-Iowa-delegates-walk-out?detail=facebook)

Love it! The funniest thing is that Ken Cuccinelli is not exactly a principled individual, he’s the former Virginia AG who launched civil suits against the University of Virginia and the climate scientist Michael Mann seeking personal email records as a form of harassment because Mann was saying global warming is real. Cuccinelli is also on record as opposing gay rights, clean energy, and energy efficient vehicles, and, needless to say, is an extreme hardliner on immigration policy. Cuccinelli fighting the other wingnuts is like watching a feces-throwing competition among a bunch of monkeys.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2016, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-national-convention/757729/152 "2016-07-18T22:38:55Z")

</div>

Congressman Steve King (R-Iowa) just said non-whites and non-christians have not contributed anything to America. No link yet, live on MSNBC.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2016, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-national-convention/757729/153 "2016-07-18T22:46:50Z")

</div>

[Link to Mr. King](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JzCfpfzCIkM).

In fairness to the RNC, he didn’t say this while on the podium… only while doing a CNN panel.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2016, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-national-convention/757729/154 "2016-07-18T22:52:58Z")

</div>

> [@johnt](#):
>
> [link to mr. King](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzcfpfzcikm).
> 
> In fairness to the rnc, he didn’t say this while on the podium… Only while doing a cnn panel.

msnbc

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2016, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-national-convention/757729/155 "2016-07-18T23:12:30Z")

</div>

Dear lord.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2016, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-national-convention/757729/156 "2016-07-18T23:16:10Z")

</div>

Did something just happen? Or talking about King?

If the latter, I’d love to see ads tying him to Trump with that clip.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2016, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-national-convention/757729/157 "2016-07-18T23:17:14Z")

</div>

So would he. So would Trump, probably.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2016, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-national-convention/757729/158 "2016-07-18T23:37:12Z")

</div>

Are they trying to outdo each other’s wingnuttery? Maybe after King’s comments on how useless non-whites are, we can bring on Ken Cuccinelli to talk about the curse of gays and the hoax of climate change. This would all be a warmup to the Great Man himself to talk about dealing with Muslims (all terrorists), Mexicans (all rapists), and the yellow peril in China. No wonder actual conservatives are staying away in droves and Trump has to get wrestling celebrities to speak! This farce is going to lead to utter chaos at some point.

I wonder how long before Pence jumps ship. The man is very, very far right but presumably still has some kind of functioning brain.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Derleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Derleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Derleth)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2016, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-national-convention/757729/159 "2016-07-18T23:49:03Z")

</div>

> [@Fear\_Itself](#):
>
> Congressman Steve King (R-Iowa) just said non-whites and non-christians have not contributed anything to America. No link yet, live on MSNBC.

[Longer video.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8f5YMyIcYjc)

[Shorter video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Odyfdic_qs)

( **JohnT** ’s video is gone.)

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2016, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-national-convention/757729/160 "2016-07-18T23:54:22Z")

</div>

> [@wolfpup](#):
>
> Love it! The funniest thing is that Ken Cuccinelli is not exactly a principled individual, he’s the former Virginia AG who launched civil suits against the University of Virginia and the climate scientist Michael Mann seeking personal email records as a form of harassment because Mann was saying global warming is real. Cuccinelli is also on record as opposing gay rights, clean energy, and energy efficient vehicles, and, needless to say, is an extreme hardliner on immigration policy. Cuccinelli fighting the other wingnuts is like watching a feces-throwing competition among a bunch of monkeys.

I think “real conservatives” hate Trump as much as non conservatives. Everyone knows he’s a fraud. He cares zero about gay rights, or most of their issues, and they know it.

[Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-national-convention/757729.md?page=7)

[Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-national-convention/757729.md?page=9)
