# The Republican national Convention

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-national-convention/757729>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [June 18, 2016, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-national-convention/757729 "2016-06-18T21:53:17Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2016, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-national-convention/757729/161 "2016-07-18T23:59:17Z")

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> [@Procrustus](#):
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> I think “real conservatives” hate Trump as much as non conservatives. Everyone knows he’s a fraud. He cares zero about gay rights, or most of their issues, and they know it.

Doesn’t matter. So long as he is Not Hillary, that checks all the boxes they care about.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_Ace](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/6bbea6/32.png) [@Johnny\_Ace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Ace)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2016, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-national-convention/757729/162 "2016-07-19T00:05:29Z")

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> [@wolfpup](#):
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> Are they trying to outdo each other’s wingnuttery? Maybe after King’s comments on how useless non-whites are, we can bring on Ken Cuccinelli to talk about the curse of gays and the hoax of climate change. This would all be a warmup to the Great Man himself to talk about dealing with Muslims (all terrorists), Mexicans (all rapists), and the yellow peril in China. No wonder actual conservatives are staying away in droves and Trump has to get wrestling celebrities to speak! This farce is going to lead to utter chaos at some point.
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> I wonder how long before Pence jumps ship. The man is very, very far right but presumably still has some kind of functioning brain.

He accepted the running-mate slot. If he has a functioning brain, it’ll be long gone by the time the election comes along.

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**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2016, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-national-convention/757729/163 "2016-07-19T00:07:01Z")

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> [@Fear\_Itself](#):
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> Doesn’t matter. So long as he is Not Hillary, that checks all the boxes they care about.

Redstate has been in open revolt against Trump and one of the main hubs of nevertrump since the primaries began.

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**Author:** ![Derleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Derleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Derleth)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2016, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-national-convention/757729/164 "2016-07-19T00:07:07Z")

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> [@Procrustus](#):
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> I think “real conservatives” hate Trump as much as non conservatives. Everyone knows he’s a fraud. He cares zero about gay rights, or most of their issues, and they know it.

It isn’t so much that he’s a charlatan, it’s that he’s a charlatan they can’t rely on to stay bought.

With a normal scumbag, one who lives up to the normal standards of scummy politician quality, they can say “You got your position due to pandering to the religious right, so now you have to sponsor this legislation” and the scumbag will do it. As terrible as they are, they’re on their side in terms of voting against abortions and women’s health and treating gay and trans people like human begins. Their private life is only relevant when someone puts a camera in a restroom stall or something.

With Trump, he’s, frankly, not smart enough to be reliable that way. He’s going to rabbit in a dozen different directions, with no coherent policy even in his own mind, relying entirely on gut decisions and half-understood soundbites. And he’ll say things real politicians have the sense to never articulate, because they give the game away: Punishing women who get abortions is supposed to be _subtext_, not _text_, because it makes the misogyny underling the anti-choice position too obvious.

[The recent revelations from his ghostwriter make this all too obvious.](http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2016/07/25/donald-trumps-ghostwriter-tells-all) Trump is an outright liability to any political party he associates with.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_Ace](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/6bbea6/32.png) [@Johnny\_Ace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Ace)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2016, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-national-convention/757729/165 "2016-07-19T00:08:42Z")

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> [@Derleth](#):
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> [Longer video.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8f5YMyIcYjc)
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> [Shorter video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Odyfdic_qs)
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> ( **JohnT** ’s video is gone.)

Interesting how he blames Hitler on agnosticism, too.

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**Author:** ![Tangent](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tangent/32/3098_2.png) [@Tangent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tangent)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2016, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-national-convention/757729/166 "2016-07-19T00:10:48Z")

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> [@Tangent](#):
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> I’m actually surprised The Donald himself is not speaking each night at the convention. I know it’s traditional for the nominee to wait and only take the podium on the final night, but this is Trump. It’s going to drive him (even more) crazy to have to let others take the spotlight for three days while he waits in the wings.

So, it turns out Donald is “introducing” Melania for her speech tonight. Wanna bet he talks longer than she does?

Hmmm… He’s got family members speaking every night. Think he’ll introduce each of them? It’s an easy excuse to get himself behind the podium every night of the convention.

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**Author:** ![Tangent](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tangent/32/3098_2.png) [@Tangent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tangent)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2016, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-national-convention/757729/167 "2016-07-19T00:12:38Z")

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Duck dude and Chachi. What a fitting start to this circus.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_Ace](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/6bbea6/32.png) [@Johnny\_Ace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Ace)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2016, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-national-convention/757729/168 "2016-07-19T00:14:10Z")

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I refuse to watch it. I’ll just want to punch something. I’ll catch salient points on news sites eventually.

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**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2016, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-national-convention/757729/169 "2016-07-19T00:17:03Z")

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> [@Leaper](#):
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> Did something just happen? Or talking about King?
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> If the latter, I’d love to see ads tying him to Trump with that clip.

Just talking about King.

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**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2016, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-national-convention/757729/170 "2016-07-19T00:22:07Z")

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> [@Derleth](#):
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> With a normal scumbag, …

Damn! I was having a drink and spit up on my keyboard! There’s just something about that logical and erudite explanation of the scumbaggery of Republicans! 😃

> [@Tangent](#):
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> So, it turns out Donald is “introducing” Melania for her speech tonight. Wanna bet he talks longer than she does?
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> Hmmm… He’s got family members speaking every night. Think he’ll introduce each of them? It’s an easy excuse to get himself behind the podium every night of the convention.

When he “introduced” his VP pick, which is a pivotal moment in the campaign with all the interest focused on the new guy, most of it was about himself.

But family members are pretty good proxies for Trump himself. As Bill Maher put it, the convention will be almost entirely about Trump and his ejaculate.

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**Author:** ![penultima\_thule](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/penultima_thule/32/3833_2.png) [@penultima\_thule](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/penultima_thule)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2016, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-national-convention/757729/171 "2016-07-19T00:22:19Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> The whole world is retching! The whole world is retching!

No we’re not.

We are buying tickets to any venue where there are aisles so we can roll in them laughing **or** standing in mute wide eyed terror at the unveiling train-wreck.

Most commonly both, on very high rotation.

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**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2016, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-national-convention/757729/172 "2016-07-19T00:22:59Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Members of the Iowa and Colorado delegations have walked out, and Ken Cuccinelli, former Virginia gubernatorial candidate, was seeing throwing his credentials to the floor in frustration, after whoever was chairing at that moment overrode a call for a roll call vote on the rules and declared they were passed.
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> [http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2016/7/18/1549441/-Chaos-on-Republican-convention-floor-Colorado-Iowa-delegates-walk-out?detail=facebook](http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2016/7/18/1549441/-Chaos-on-Republican-convention-floor-Colorado-Iowa-delegates-walk-out?detail=facebook)

As I expected, a **broken** convention. While listening to music on a long drive I was surprised on the number of DJ’s that while telling their audience that they had no comment on who should win the election, a few did comment on how noticeable was that Trump and the Republicans just managed to get the C, D or even F quality celebrities/talent for the convention.

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2016, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-national-convention/757729/173 "2016-07-19T00:23:43Z")

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Hold the phone! Chachi supports Trump? Why didn’t he say something before my state’s primary?? Damn!  
And in other news, Gov. Rick Perry’s family took in a down-on-his-luck Navy Seal, who as invited, showed up one day at the Gov. mansion, and provided him with the care he could not get from the V.A., so, Trump!

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**Author:** ![E-DUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/e-dub/32/403_2.png) [@E-DUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-DUB)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-national-convention/757729/174 "2016-07-19T00:25:09Z")

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Remember when Republicans lambasted Bill Clinton for his lack of military service, Al Gore for exaggerating his accomplishments, John Kerry for his wealth and foreign-born wife, Barak Obama for his “celebrity” status? No? That’s OK, neither do they.

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**Author:** ![Tangent](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tangent/32/3098_2.png) [@Tangent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tangent)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2016, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-national-convention/757729/175 "2016-07-19T00:29:40Z")

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I am sorry for this woman, but it’s sickeningly cynical for them to put her out there like this.

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**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2016, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-national-convention/757729/176 "2016-07-19T00:44:40Z")

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Just a fantastic start. This should be one for the ages.

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**Author:** ![elbows](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b3f665/32.png) [@elbows](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elbows)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2016, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-national-convention/757729/177 "2016-07-19T00:51:30Z")

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Hey! Give her a little credit!

After all, she is doing a job no American would want!

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**Author:** ![Tangent](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tangent/32/3098_2.png) [@Tangent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tangent)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2016, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-national-convention/757729/178 "2016-07-19T01:04:22Z")

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Was this guy in one of those Sharknado movies?

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**Author:** ![davey77](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/90ced4/32.png) [@davey77](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davey77)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2016, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-national-convention/757729/179 "2016-07-19T01:40:57Z")

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I loved the line, “My grandparents came here from Mexico.” The crowd didn’t seem to know whether to clap, boo, or cry.

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**Author:** ![Merneith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/57b2e6/32.png) [@Merneith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merneith)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2016, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-national-convention/757729/180 "2016-07-19T01:56:22Z")

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> [@Tangent](#):
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> I am sorry for this woman, but it’s sickeningly cynical for them to put her out there like this.

Remember how the Republicans treated Cindy Sheehan and compare that to how they’re promoting Pat Smith. They don’t care either way. They’re just embracing the one who’s telling the story they want to hear. Pat Smith doesn’t deserve your sympathy. She’s turned her son’s death into a spectacle of mindless lies.

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