# The Republican Party is the Party of Evil **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 4, 2021, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-party-is-the-party-of-evil/937187 "2021-03-04T17:43:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 108
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2023, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-party-is-the-party-of-evil/937187/2142 "2023-09-18T03:07:24Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > They’re having actual book burnings in Missouri. > > [https://x.com/realJonRiley/status/1703456945942769723?t=DJtMkUz1SDdiJg\_tthPrYg&s=09](https://x.com/realJonRiley/status/1703456945942769723?t=DJtMkUz1SDdiJg_tthPrYg&s=09) - “Those who forget their history are condemned to repeat it.” If you eliminate history, you can’t be blamed for making the same mistake _again_. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2023, 7:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-party-is-the-party-of-evil/937187/2143 "2023-09-18T07:39:15Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > “Those who forget their history are condemned to repeat it.” If you deliberately destroy history, it is your _goal_ to repeat it." ---
**Author:** ![Irishman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b487fb/32.png) [@Irishman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Irishman)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2023, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-party-is-the-party-of-evil/937187/2144 "2023-09-18T19:38:50Z")
So the Republican led Texas House votes to Impeach Texas AG Ken Paxton. This is after YEARS of criminal investigations and lawsuits building up against Paxton for his corrupt behavior. Even Republicans in the House thought he went too far. But the Texas Senate, beholden to the MAGA special interests, voted to acquit him on all 16 counts, despite reams of evidence. Now the MAGAS are threatening political retribution against the Republicans who voted for impeachment. Senior Slime-weasel Leuitenant Governor Dan Patrick is vowing to investigate how much money was wasted on this impeachment business. Hey fuck-maggot, it’s only wasted because you and the rest of the Senate toadies ignored the evidence and acquitted. And it’s still not wasted, because now we see just how craven you MAGA Repubs are, defending and excusing outright corruption because Paxton’s for sale. Conservatives in Texas and the rest of the country, if you have any respect for basic ethics, the rule of law, or democracy itself, you are going to have to hold your nose and forsake the Rep Party until this MAGA insanity is put to rest. Backing the R Party on the grounds that you prefer their politics and policies is just going to ensure that you ethical conservatives will be further maligned in your own party. You’re just giving them more strength that they will eventually use against you, too. ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2023, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-party-is-the-party-of-evil/937187/2145 "2023-09-18T20:12:29Z")
> [@Irishman](#): > > Conservatives in Texas and the rest of the country, if you have any respect for basic ethics,… Well, there’s your problem. ---
**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2023, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-party-is-the-party-of-evil/937187/2146 "2023-09-18T22:26:27Z")
Shame. Shame. Shame. (people in the video) (although I would like to play with a flamethrower too) ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2023, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-party-is-the-party-of-evil/937187/2147 "2023-09-18T22:47:40Z")
What are these folks favorite books? Oh, there is one, but none have read it. I do wonder what books they are burning. I imagine these folks have a hard time with a Denny’s menu. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2023, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-party-is-the-party-of-evil/937187/2148 "2023-09-18T22:54:40Z")
One of the guys with a flamethrower is a Republican candidate for governor. Here is his statement: > “In the video, I am taking a flame thrower to cardboard boxes representing what I am going to do to the leftist policies and RINO corruption of the Jeff City swamp,” Eigel said in a statement to The Star on Monday. “But let’s be clear, you bring those woke pornographic books to Missouri schools to try to brainwash our kids, and I’ll burn those too - on the front lawn of the governor’s mansion.” > **[Republican candidate for Missouri governor vows to burn books after viral...](https://www.kansascity.com/news/politics-government/article279475914.html#storylink=cpy)** > > “You bring those woke pornographic books to Missouri schools to try to brainwash our kids, and I’ll burn those too - on the front lawn of the governor’s mansion,” said state Sen. Bill Eigel, a Republican candidate for Missouri governor. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2023, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-party-is-the-party-of-evil/937187/2149 "2023-09-18T22:59:29Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > “In the video, I am taking a flame thrower to cardboard boxes representing what I am going to do to the leftist policies and RINO corruption of the Jeff City swamp,” Eigel said in a statement to The Star on Monday. “But let’s be clear, you bring those woke pornographic books to Missouri schools to try to brainwash our kids, and I’ll burn those too - on the front lawn of the governor’s mansion.” All we have to do is vote. Funny thing that. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2023, 7:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-party-is-the-party-of-evil/937187/2150 "2023-09-19T07:34:34Z")
> [@enipla](#): > > What are these folks favorite books? Oh, there is one, but none have read it. They worship it. And, amazingly, they’re also able to use it as a weapon. ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2023, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-party-is-the-party-of-evil/937187/2151 "2023-09-19T23:00:21Z")
[quote=“Monty, post:2150, topic:937187”] They worship it. And, amazingly, they’re also able to use it as a weapon. [/quote] Posted this in the sovcit thread, Belongs here too, "OTTO. Apes don’t read philosophy. WANDA. Yes they do, Otto. They just don’t understand it.” ---
**Author:** ![commasense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/commasense/32/3017_2.png) [@commasense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/commasense)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2023, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-party-is-the-party-of-evil/937187/2152 "2023-09-25T00:47:19Z")
I haven’t read this whole thread, so someone may have already brought this up, but the Republicans are planning to dismantle the federal civil service system and replace thousands of government employees with political appointees who can be fired at will. This would return us to the corrupt political patronage system that was in place 120 years ago. Gift link: > **[Gift Article: The Open Plot to Dismantle the Federal Government](https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2023/09/trump-desantis-republicans-dismantle-deep-state/675378/?gift=hzomlMR2dBLPzkPdeme4aB5d4Q84F64rmkL5T5YBYvg&utm_source=copy-link&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=share)** > > “I can’t overstate my level of concern about the damage this would do.” > As he runs again for a second term, Trump is vowing to “dismantle the deep state” and ensure that the government he would inherit aligns with his vision for the country. Unlike during his 2016 campaign, however, Trump and his supporters on the right—including several former high-ranking members of his administration—have developed detailed proposals for executing this plan. Immediately upon his inauguration in January 2025, they would seek to convert thousands of career employees into appointees fireable at will by the president. They would assert full White House control over agencies, including the Department of Justice, that for decades have operated as either fully or partially independent government departments. > > Trump’s nearest rivals for the Republican nomination have matched and even exceeded his zeal for gutting the federal government. The businessman Vivek Ramaswamy has vowed to fire as much as 75 percent of the workforce. And Florida Governor Ron DeSantis promised a New Hampshire crowd last month, “We’re going to start slitting throats on day one.” > “I can’t overstate my level of concern about the damage this would do to the institution of the federal government,” Robert Shea, a former senior budget official in the George W. Bush administration, told me. “You would have things formerly considered illegal or unconstitutional popping up all across the government like whack-a-mole. And the ability to fight them would be inhibited.” > No conservative proposal has generated more controversy than the push to remove any separation between the White House and the Department of Justice, where federal prosecutors and agencies like the FBI have long made law-enforcement decisions independently of the president. Jeffrey Clark, the former assistant attorney general who along with Trump was indicted by a Georgia grand jury for his role in attempting to overturn the 2020 election, published a paper online in May titled “The U.S. Justice Department Is Not Independent” for the Center for Renewing America. Paired with Trump’s repeated calls to prosecute Biden and other Democrats, this argument raises the prospect that Trump, if elected again, could effectively order the Justice Department to jail anyone he wants, for no other reason than he has the power to do so as president. ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2023, 4:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-party-is-the-party-of-evil/937187/2153 "2023-09-25T04:04:44Z")
I like this little ‘character profile’ from the article: > [@](#): > > I changed the topic to Mike Pence. Trump has assailed his former vice president for refusing to help him overturn their defeat, but Pence has never been accused of criminal wrongdoing. Could Trump, as president, simply order the Department of Justice to prosecute him under this theory of presidential power? “Whether a president actually gets into identifying people who ought to be prosecuted, I don’t know if we ever get to that stage,” [served as chief of staff of the Office of Personnel Management during the Trump administration authoritarian-abetting brown-noser and spear-header of the toxic ‘Project 2025’ Paul] Dans said. He brought up a different example, arguing that a president could direct prosecutors to go after, say, Mexican drug cartels for their role in the opioid epidemic. I pressed him one more time on whether Trump could order the prosecution of someone like Pence. The answer wasn’t no. “I’m not in law school,” Dans replied. “We’re not going to hypotheticals.” Man with the plan…all he wants is a swamp-drain this time around of up to 50,000 civil servants. later in article… > [@](#): > > Dans, who downplayed the importance of government experience in his recruitment drive for the next Republican administration. “I’m fully confident that the American people have the skills and have the ability to do these government jobs. It’s not rocket science,” he told me. So reassuring it’ll be a return to “nothing the best”. Another black-hatter I just learned of - The Centre For Renewing America. (hoping any of those scumbags reading this will appreciate my Canadian spelling) So, there was John Eastman’s handy handbook on screwing with the elections. Then Jeffey Clark’s vomit-splurge last May - “The US Justice Department is Not Independent” And now this Heritage Foundation shtup with some 920-page playbook trumpeting that "The president must use ‘boldness to bend or break the bureaucracy to the presidential will.’” Trying to outdo each other. I just might be starting to maybe get fed up with all this shit. ---
**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2023, 8:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-party-is-the-party-of-evil/937187/2154 "2023-09-25T08:14:10Z")
Is it even possible to enshrine the things the plan wants to undo into law? If not, I’m honestly surprised such things survived 120 years on “honor” alone, especially considering it’s all about corruption and the powerful. ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2023, 12:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-party-is-the-party-of-evil/937187/2155 "2023-09-25T12:44:51Z")
> [@Leaper](#): > > Is it even possible to enshrine the things the plan wants to undo into law? The biggest factor is enshrining hiring and firing rules into the law. It used to be, they expected a new government to fire almost everyone, and hire whoever they wanted to to replace them. That’s the old patronage system. People who helped you win expected to be rewarded, and in return you could trust them to do as you instructed with the powers of the offices you gave them. But that led to all the problems of massive corruption. So they wrote laws to eliminate the patronage system. Now they had rules about how to fill a vacancy in the public service, and how to fire someone, so that it wasn’t just filled with whoever was the biggest Yes Men favored by the President. It’s much easier to resist pressure to be corrupt if you know there’s protections for you against being fired or demoted for displeasing the President or governor. Combine that with an established code of ethics, and it seems to work pretty well. It at least weathered the most recent attacks on it by Trump et al. They really wanted to hamstring the current system, but failed in the attempt largely because of the efforts of the vary people they wanted to oust. Hopefully they’ll fail this time, as well. ---
**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2023, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-party-is-the-party-of-evil/937187/2156 "2023-09-25T16:56:12Z")
So does Project 2025 pull a Trump and just assume the President can do whatever he wants, or just rescind the rules at a whim? Or is there a specific plan for that too? I’m not sure I can stomach reading the actual document. ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2023, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-party-is-the-party-of-evil/937187/2157 "2023-09-25T17:38:51Z")
Trump says that the treasonous media will pay a big price when (not “if”) he gets re-elected > **[Trump Warns Critical News Media Will 'Pay A Big Price' If He's Reelected](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/trump-threatens-news-media-critical-of-him_n_651189ffe4b088d5608c6c94)** > > The former president said "fake news" organizations should be investigated for treason and questioned their access to U.S. airwaves. ---
**Author:** ![Sylvanz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/fbc32d/32.png) [@Sylvanz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sylvanz)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2023, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-party-is-the-party-of-evil/937187/2158 "2023-09-26T19:56:50Z")
These people just hate the poors. This is disgusting and the worst part is critters like punchable-face-matt gaetz doesn’t think it goes far enough. > **[Bending to right, McCarthy pushes safety net cuts in shutdown battle](https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2023/09/26/mccarthy-conservatives-cut-spending/)** > > The House speaker embraced major spending reductions to win conservative support for a government funding bill. ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2023, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-party-is-the-party-of-evil/937187/2159 "2023-09-26T20:13:28Z")
McCarthy needs to realize (and probably already does) that there is no amount of appeasing that will work with these bozos. Even if they managed to get a bill through that impeached Biden, and balanced the budget on the backs of the poor while eliminating all taxes on the rich, they still wouldn’t agree, because they actively want a shut down more than they want any of those other things. Sure shutting it down is bad for their party and worse for the country, but gets all their faces on the news, where they can be seen as big and powerful people who are uncompromising in the face of RINO opposition. Besides who needs the government anyway? Most of their constituents probably feel we’d be better off without it. ---
**Author:** ![Sylvanz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/fbc32d/32.png) [@Sylvanz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sylvanz)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2023, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-party-is-the-party-of-evil/937187/2160 "2023-09-26T20:29:20Z")
I think most of the so called “hard right” do want to burn it all down. Their idea of a country is the wealthy wiping their feet on the rest of the country. No education, and free labor from the the non-wealthy (why should they pay people who haven’t _succeeded_?). That pesky Constitution thing really needs to go … under their feet like the poors. Grrr. It really steams me that they practically give free money to wealthy people, who frandly don’t need more, yet begrudge the means tested, hoop jumping, pittance the impoverished have to scramble for. Evil indeed. ---
**Author:** ![Nightaudit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nightaudit/32/17181_2.png) [@Nightaudit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nightaudit)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2023, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-party-is-the-party-of-evil/937187/2161 "2023-09-28T01:29:07Z")
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