# The Republican Party is the Party of Evil **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 4, 2021, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-party-is-the-party-of-evil/937187 "2021-03-04T17:43:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 14
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2021, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-party-is-the-party-of-evil/937187/261 "2021-03-16T23:40:07Z")
> [@Typo\_Negative](#): > > And to The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper: > > The Republican electorate is being radicalized by Fox news, a tool of the increasingly evil Republican Party. > > [Fox News Accused of Radicalizing Americans by Former Neo-Nazi Recruiter](https://www.newsweek.com/fox-news-accused-radicalizing-americans-former-neo-nazi-recruiter-1574330) I get how that’d be good to know if I’m talking with someone in the Republican electorate who starts expressing some radical ideas. But what am I to do with it if I’m talking with someone in the Republican electorate who — doesn’t? ---
**Author:** ![Exapno\_Mapcase](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/exapno_mapcase/32/1051_2.png) [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2021, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-party-is-the-party-of-evil/937187/262 "2021-03-17T00:30:31Z")
> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#): > > But what use is your line to me when I’m talking with a Republican who, _instead_ of remaining silent, has bad things to say about Trump and, well, _says so?_ > [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#): > > But what am I to do with it if I’m talking with someone in the Republican electorate who — doesn’t? Where in the world are you finding these people? ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2021, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-party-is-the-party-of-evil/937187/263 "2021-03-17T00:31:23Z")
> [@Exapno\_Mapcase](#): > > Where in the world are you finding these people? Family gatherings. ---
**Author:** ![Exapno\_Mapcase](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/exapno_mapcase/32/1051_2.png) [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2021, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-party-is-the-party-of-evil/937187/264 "2021-03-17T01:31:23Z")
93% of Republicans voted for Trump. Did your family members? If not, see below. If they did, they are complicit. And if they did, you need to find a way to slap them upside the head. Because they are aiding and abetting the party of evil. BTW, if they didn’t vote for Trump but voted for other Republicans, they are just as guilty. No Republican can ever be elected to office again at any level. They are mutually reinforcing. That is the lesson we’re trying to impart. All Republicans must share the blame for the modern Republican Party. No excuses. ---
**Author:** ![Irishman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b487fb/32.png) [@Irishman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Irishman)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2021, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-party-is-the-party-of-evil/937187/265 "2021-03-17T01:53:38Z")
> [@Buck\_Godot](#): > > FYI, the reason the Way forward bill looks extreme is that, as per usual with articles from the right, the description of the bill in the article has no basis in reality. I suppose I should have considered that. > [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#): > > But what use is your line to me when I’m talking with a Republican who, _instead_ of remaining silent, has bad things to say about Trump and, well, _says so?_ “Good, we need more like you.” > [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#): > > But what am I to do with it if I’m talking with someone in the Republican electorate who — doesn’t? Y’all need to come up with a plan to kick out the wackos. I mean, heaven forbid your sane Republican loses the primary to a wacko, don’t vote for the wacko in the general. Vote D, and keep voting D until your party gets the message. If you voted for Trump, you voted for a corrupt, racist-enabling narcissist who lied to overthrow a fair election. Then he lied to bilk your fellow Republicans. The rest of the Party politicians aren’t much better. You’ve got the weasels like Graham and Cruz fully supporting someone they despise. Then you get the Boeberts and Greenes. Their are few speaking up at all, like Romney, and most of them are quitting. It’s your party, what are you doing about it? ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2021, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-party-is-the-party-of-evil/937187/266 "2021-03-17T02:13:08Z")
> [@Exapno\_Mapcase](#): > > 93% of Republicans voted for Trump. Did your family members? If not, see below. If they did, they are complicit. And if they did, you need to find a way to slap them upside the head. Because they are aiding and abetting the party of evil. > > BTW, if they didn’t vote for Trump but voted for other Republicans, they are just as guilty. No Republican can ever be elected to office again at any level. They are mutually reinforcing. > > That is the lesson we’re trying to impart. All Republicans must share the blame for the modern Republican Party. No excuses. Then why are you going on and on about all that other stuff, if you’re just heading _there?_ Why did you even make that Silence=Acceptance point if you‘re going to _likewise_ write off Republicans who _aren’t_ silent? Why did you bother to criticize Republicans who voted for the farthest-right loon in the primaries, if you’re going to level the exact same criticism at those who voted the _other_ way in primaries? Why even _bother_ to kick off the post I’m now replying to by asking whether they voted for Trump, if you’re going to say they’re “just as guilty” regardless? I’m genuinely not getting it: why do you keep bothering with one specific-question set-up after another if, every time, (a) your point is that the answer doesn’t _matter_, because (b) you’re going to give an equal-strength thumbs-down _anyway?_ ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2021, 4:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-party-is-the-party-of-evil/937187/267 "2021-03-17T04:32:35Z")
What what what what what what what??? Why why why why why why??? Seriously, you are trolling and I am done with you. ---
**Author:** ![stuccosuperstar2020](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9de0a6/32.png) [@stuccosuperstar2020](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stuccosuperstar2020)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2021, 7:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-party-is-the-party-of-evil/937187/268 "2021-03-17T07:06:54Z")
I joined the GOP several years back to vote AGAINST a dangerous candidate who had a legit shot of winning the primary. At the same time, for a laugh I voted myself to be on the county GOP committee, and guess who won the pony? As soon as Trump and Cuz were the last two candidates, I wanted to quit, also because it became obvious the committee was hijacked by bunch of right wing nutjobs but a handful of influential county moderates begged me to stay on board (which should have begged the question why don’t YOU run for a seat)? The final straw was 1/6, but I was too lazy to write a resignation email (why waste MY time), but what motivated me to do so was when only a dozen or so GOP voted to kick that maniac Marjorie Taylor Greene out of her committee assignments. Its no longer a matter of being part of a wing of a moderate voice of reason to try and steer the party away from a cliff—I can no longer be morally associated with a party that harbors and enables traitors and steals elections. I’m a registered Democrat, but they’d better watch their step too! ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2021, 10:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-party-is-the-party-of-evil/937187/269 "2021-03-17T10:04:01Z")
> [@Typo\_Negative](#): > > What what what what what what what??? Why why why why why why??? > > Seriously, you are trolling and I am done with you. He asks questions as if in good faith, only to make clear a moment later that, heh, no, the answers are irrelevant — and you claim that _I’m_ the one who’s trolling? He criticizes Republicans for “voting in primaries for the farthest-right loon who brings guns into Congress and believes that Jewish space lasers cause forest fires”. _Fair point_, I think to myself; _I can see why he’d criticize Republicans who voted for that loon in the primary; and I could enthusiastically relay his criticism to anyone who did that._ But as far as I can tell, hundreds of Republicans in Congress _don’t_ fit her description; and it’d make no sense for me to criticize Republicans who voted for one of _them_, and not for her, on those grounds: faced with that line of criticism, they could blink in bemusement and honestly reply that, _uh, we didn’t do that; we did the opposite of that._ If he’d meant what he’d said about her, and about those who voted for her in the primaries, then I don’t see how it makes any sense to broad-brush Republicans who do the _opposite_ of what he’s on about. You’d think he’d _want_ them to do the opposite. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2021, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-party-is-the-party-of-evil/937187/270 "2021-03-17T14:49:53Z")
> [@Deeg](#): > > Right now I think the Republicans have the better policy in a few areas What policy? Republicans had no policy for the last election. The entire platform for the 2020 election as articulated in the RNC 2020 convention was the party “has and will continue to enthusiastically support the president’s America-first agenda”. That’s it. And nothing has changed since August 2020. Which of these policy platforms of the Republicans do you think is better:? 1. Oppose everything the Democrats propose 2. Obey Trump and travel to his Florida dacha to kiss his ring Because I don’t see anything else that current Republicans are capable of doing. ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2021, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-party-is-the-party-of-evil/937187/271 "2021-03-17T14:55:35Z")
They are really proactive when it comes to keeping black people from voting. ---
**Author:** ![Exapno\_Mapcase](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/exapno_mapcase/32/1051_2.png) [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2021, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-party-is-the-party-of-evil/937187/272 "2021-03-17T15:57:59Z")
> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#): > > If he’d meant what he’d said about her, and about those who voted for her in the primaries, then I don’t see how it makes any sense to broad-brush Republicans who do the _opposite_ of what he’s on about. You’d think he’d _want_ them to do the opposite. My position is simple and straightforward. The Republican Party is evil. It did not suddenly turn evil with Trump. It has been inexorably trending that way since Nixon. It is now rotten from top to bottom. There is no moderate sector of the party; it is all loony right to fascist right. It got that way because a frighteningly huge percentage of voters approved of Republican policies and politicians, mostly because they hate the right people. You keep talking about people who are anti-Trump. I keep telling you that’s a tiny piece of the big picture. Any Republican vote is for evil because the party allows no alternatives. If you can tell anti-Trumpers to vote for Democrats or third parties and they do so, that’s all well and good. But first, you won’t concede that anti-Trumpers are a tiny, insignificant, and powerless fraction of the party so scattered that nothing they do can be meaningful. Second, you won’t concede that they are still Republican and will vote Republican. Nobody should ever vote Republican. The party must die or at least break up and reform. Your excuses for people who actively abet evil don’t work for anybody who understands that the Republican Party is evil. Did you read the title of this thread? It is and the majority of posters here agree. You don’t. You are wrong. Why you expect us to take any other position is a mystery as unfathomable as why anybody would vote for a Republican. ---
**Author:** ![Eonwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eonwe/32/240_2.png) [@Eonwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eonwe)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2021, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-party-is-the-party-of-evil/937187/273 "2021-03-17T16:12:29Z")
Another way to put it: it’s not really meaningful, as a voter, to claim affinity to a party while denouncing the vast majority of politicians supported and elected by that party. What does it mean, when Trump was president, and most locally elected Republicans supported/stood with him, to have been a Republican “but not support Trump”? Like, what definition are you using for “Republican” that literally excludes most Republicans? ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2021, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-party-is-the-party-of-evil/937187/274 "2021-03-17T22:23:12Z")
Question: Is it scientifically possible for a Republican to make it through an interview without telling lies? Have scientists actually studied the Republican primate to see if he is capable of speaking without lying? ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2021, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-party-is-the-party-of-evil/937187/275 "2021-03-17T23:11:36Z")
> [@Eonwe](#): > > Another way to put it: it’s not really meaningful, as a voter, to claim affinity to a party while denouncing the vast majority of politicians supported and elected by that party. > > What does it mean, when Trump was president, and most locally elected Republicans supported/stood with him, to have been a Republican “but not support Trump”? Like, what definition are you using for “Republican” that literally excludes most Republicans? I guess the definition I’m using starts with, well, self-definition: I know someone who says he’s a Republican, and I figured he’s made a pretty good case for it by voting for plenty of Republicans for decades; and I figured it kept being true nowadays, with him still voting for plenty of Republicans nowadays. But he’s routinely and cheerfully badmouthed _Trump_, and didn’t vote for him in 2020 while voting for downballot Republicans — which (a) struck me as unremarkable at the time, especially seeing as how ‘split tickets’ seemed to be the go-to explanation for stuff like Maine voting Susan Collins back in while voting Donald Trump out; but which (b) seemed worth mentioning here, given the comments I’d seen in this thread… …and which I also guess is an answer to your question: What does it mean, when Trump was president, and most locally elected Republicans supported/stood with him, to have been a Republican “but not support Trump”? ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2021, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-party-is-the-party-of-evil/937187/276 "2021-03-17T23:23:27Z")
> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#): > > …and which I also guess is an answer to your question: What does it mean, when Trump was president, and most locally elected Republicans supported/stood with him, to have been a Republican “but not support Trump”? Well, OK, but the weird part is, these “Republicans who did not support Trump”, ended up voting downballot for a bunch of folks who DID support Trump and CONTINUE to support Trump even when he sent a mob to attack them. They voted downballot for a bunch of folks who are currently cheerfully putting in voting restrictions and blockages that are nothing less than a return to the Jim Crow era. They voted downballot to support Trumpism. ---
**Author:** ![Exapno\_Mapcase](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/exapno_mapcase/32/1051_2.png) [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2021, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-party-is-the-party-of-evil/937187/277 "2021-03-18T01:33:24Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > They voted downballot to support Trumpism. But somehow that doesn’t seem to matter at all. Forget it, Jake, it’s Republican logic. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2021, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-party-is-the-party-of-evil/937187/278 "2021-03-18T02:19:50Z")
I just don’t see any point in calling it Trumpism. How far would you take this? Say a guy really wanted right-wingers on the Supreme Court in the ‘80s, and voted that way — and say he kept wanting right-wingers in the Supreme Court in the ‘90s and the ‘00s, and so kept voting that way — and then, in the ‘10s, he _still wants that_ and so shrugs while voting for Trump to advance the same goal as usual: not merely _thinking_ ‘useful idiot’, but flatly _saying_ ‘useful idiot’. And then, come ‘20, say he figures with a chuckle, ‘well, Trump has admittedly been _useful_, but he’s so much of an _idiot_ that I can’t vote to keep him there any longer’. Would you call even _that_ a vote for Trumpism? Because if you figure the term runs the gamut all the way from “voting for Trump in ‘20” over to “insulting Trump while not voting for him in ‘20,” then it — well, doesn’t strike me as being an especially useful turn of phrase. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2021, 3:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-party-is-the-party-of-evil/937187/279 "2021-03-18T03:23:07Z")
No, you are still not getting it. Anyone who voted for ANY Republicans last election is supporting the Trump Party. Anyone who votes for ANY Republicans in 2022 will be supporting the Trump Party. This is who they are now. Republicans in Congress are full on 100% Trumpers now. Face the facts. Look at them. Read their words. See their actions. Watch their votes. Many are actually batshit insane at this point and I expect this will get worse in future. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2021, 9:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-party-is-the-party-of-evil/937187/280 "2021-03-18T09:43:31Z")
Just another reminder that while this week Republicans have been insulting the US Marine Corps, they are still refusing to condemn cop killers. > **[12 Republicans voted against honoring the Capitol Police and others that...](https://www.businessinsider.com/republicans-rejected-giving-medals-to-capitol-police-at-riots-2021-3?r=US&IR=T)** > > Some Republicans said they disagreed with the legislation passed Wednesday for characterizing the Capitol siege as an insurrection. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-party-is-the-party-of-evil/937187.md?page=13) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-party-is-the-party-of-evil/937187.md?page=15)