# The Republican Party is the Party of Evil

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [March 4, 2021, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-party-is-the-party-of-evil/937187 "2021-03-04T17:43:17Z")\
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**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2021, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-party-is-the-party-of-evil/937187/561 "2021-05-12T18:44:44Z")

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Now that they’ve voted Liz Cheney out, Republicans are grasping at some other explanation – _any_ other explanation – besides her disagreeing with Trump for why she had to go

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> Shortly after their vote, some Republicans told HuffPost they didn’t oust Cheney over her truth-telling — really!
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> “I felt she was in part responsible for the high spending in the first Trump budget,” Rep. Glenn Grothman (Wis.) said.
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> Several GOP members disagreed with Cheney on “what level of military adventurism is acceptable,” said Rep. David Schweikert (Ariz.). “Things sort of pile up over time.”

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> Rep. Mike Kelly (Pa.) suggested it’s just a “version” of the truth that Cheney lost her position for statements about the ex-president losing the election and inciting a riot. When HuffPost reiterated that Trump didn’t win, Kelly said, “Is that right?”

Evidently they reject Our Version of Reality, and Substitute Their Own.

> **[Republicans Oust Liz Cheney From Party Leadership For Telling Truth About...](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/liz-cheney-republican-conference-chair_n_609bc934e4b099ba753106de)**
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> House Republicans voted during an internal party meeting on Wednesday morning.

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**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2021, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-party-is-the-party-of-evil/937187/562 "2021-05-12T18:58:09Z")

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Gee, I can’t see anything going wrong with this:

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> # Michigan Lawmaker Who Promoted Election Lies Wants To Register, Fine ‘Fact Checkers’
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> Matt Maddock, a Republican state representative, warned “fact checkers” not to be “sloppy” or risk being sued under his proposed legislation.
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> A Michigan state representative who has repeatedly promoted former [President Donald Trump](https://www.huffpost.com/news/topic/donald-trump)’s lies about the 2020 election introduced a bill on Tuesday that would require “fact checkers” to register with the state.
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> State Rep. Matt Maddock, a Republican, wrote in a [Facebook](https://www.huffpost.com/impact/topic/facebook) post last week that his proposed legislation “will put Fact Checkers on notice.”
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> “Don’t be wrong, don’t be sloppy, and you better be right,” Maddock wrote.
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> The bill, called the Fact Checker Registration Act, would require “certain fact checkers” to register with Michigan’s secretary of state and insure themselves with $1 million fidelity bonds.
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> If the bill were enacted into law, a person would be able to sue a “fact checker” for “any wrongful conduct that is a violation” of Michigan state laws. A person who violated the act would be subject to a $1,000 fine per day for each day the violation continued, according to the bill.
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> Under Maddock’s proposal, a “fact checker” is defined as someone who is paid by a national or international fact-checking organization, is a member of the International Fact Check Network, publishes content in Michigan and presents themselves to the public as a fact-checker. (The text of the bill appears to incorrectly refer to the [International Fact-Checking Network](https://www.poynter.org/ifcn/), a Poynter Institute initiative that connects fact-checkers across the world, as the “International Fact Check Network.”)
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> Maddock did not immediately respond to HuffPost’s request for comment.

> **[Michigan Lawmaker Who Promoted Election Lies Wants To Register, Fine 'Fact...](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/matt-maddock-fact-checker-bill_n_609bd1ede4b0daf2b59b85cc)**
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> Matt Maddock, a Republican state representative, warned "fact checkers" not to be "sloppy" or risk being sued under his proposed legislation.

I can’t help noticing that his name is almost the same as Daredevil’s secret identity.

I also notice that, fortunately for him, this legislation wouldn’t apply to him. Unless he registered with the International Fact Check Organization.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2021, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-party-is-the-party-of-evil/937187/563 "2021-05-12T22:04:51Z")

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Who will check the factcheckers, and will they be subject to the same rules as the factcheckers they’re checking? And who will check the checkers checking the checkers?

It’s checkers all the way down!

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**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2021, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-party-is-the-party-of-evil/937187/564 "2021-05-13T00:25:40Z")

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Orwell was an optimist.

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**Author:** ![Jumpbass](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jumpbass/32/147_2.png) [@Jumpbass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jumpbass)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2021, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-party-is-the-party-of-evil/937187/565 "2021-05-13T14:14:55Z")

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^Bumper sticker!

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**Author:** ![Irishman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b487fb/32.png) [@Irishman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Irishman)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2021, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-party-is-the-party-of-evil/937187/566 "2021-05-13T16:14:36Z")

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> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> Or what, tho?
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> The bill doesn’t list any penalties. I mean, yeah, it’s reprehensible as all fuck but there are no penalties described for violating the law.

The bill is an amendment to the general Education Code for Texas. Violators would be subject to any disciplinary actions available under the Code.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2021, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-party-is-the-party-of-evil/937187/567 "2021-05-13T16:33:53Z")

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Ah; thank you for the clarification. I’ll have to look that up to see what the penalties are.

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**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2021, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-party-is-the-party-of-evil/937187/568 "2021-05-13T16:57:07Z")

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It’s honestly exhausting having to deal with a bunch of grown adults who have been made mentally disabled by RW media.

People who aren’t stupid, yet have the exact same response to information that someone stupid would.

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**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2021, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-party-is-the-party-of-evil/937187/569 "2021-05-14T23:04:00Z")

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Fuck Mississippi

[https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/mississippi-supreme-court-overturns-legal-marijuana-amendment-and-voids-state-ballot-initiatives-entirely-in-the-process/ar-BB1gKpf5?ocid=Peregrine](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/mississippi-supreme-court-overturns-legal-marijuana-amendment-and-voids-state-ballot-initiatives-entirely-in-the-process/ar-BB1gKpf5?ocid=Peregrine)

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**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2021, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-party-is-the-party-of-evil/937187/570 "2021-05-14T23:12:22Z")

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Fuck Republicans

[https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/rightwingers-tried-to-discredit-trump-foes-with-honey-trap-plot-–-report/ar-BB1gJCbB?li=BBnbfcL](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/rightwingers-tried-to-discredit-trump-foes-with-honey-trap-plot-%e2%80%93-report/ar-BB1gJCbB?li=BBnbfcL)

Evil sonsabitches

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2021, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-party-is-the-party-of-evil/937187/571 "2021-05-14T23:18:48Z")

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That is one of the worst judicial decisions I’ve read in the past few years. I’d say it was completely specious, but that’s calling it too close; IMO this reasoning is _out there_.

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**Author:** ![Toxgoddess](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Toxgoddess](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Toxgoddess)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2021, 12:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-party-is-the-party-of-evil/937187/572 "2021-05-15T12:33:37Z")

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Yes, this one would be equally at home in the Stupid RIOD thread. They have invalidated every ballot initiative for the last two decades??? Looks like they just opened the door to chaos. I suppose they think that’s worth it to get rid of legal cannabis but I’m guessing the good citizens of Mississippi will disagree.

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**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2021, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-party-is-the-party-of-evil/937187/573 "2021-05-15T14:26:19Z")

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I’m hoping there’s an anti-abortion or gun rights amendment or two in the pile there somewhere. It won’t change anything but it’ll be fun to watch them scramble to come up with a reason not to.

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**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2021, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-party-is-the-party-of-evil/937187/574 "2021-05-15T23:55:33Z")

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Punish pool workers harshly. But give probation to republicans who register and vote for dead relatives.

Because only liberals can commit fraud. If you are a Republican, you are an evil fuck.

[https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/gop-pursues-harsher-penalties-for-poll-workers-in-voting-crackdown/ar-BB1gLRRM?li=BBnb7Kz](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/gop-pursues-harsher-penalties-for-poll-workers-in-voting-crackdown/ar-BB1gLRRM?li=BBnb7Kz)

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**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2021, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-party-is-the-party-of-evil/937187/575 "2021-05-17T18:22:46Z")

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Even before clicking on your link I said to myself “I bet its those project Veritas losers”. What do you know I was right.

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**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2021, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-party-is-the-party-of-evil/937187/576 "2021-05-17T18:42:47Z")

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Looking through [this list](https://ballotpedia.org/List_of_Mississippi_ballot_measures), there isn’t actually all that many of them.

Most of them are procedural (term limits etc.) and not obviously partisan.

Of the partisan ones:

- There were a number of proposed fetus personhood amendments proposed all of which failed.
- A one man one woman marriage amendment which is moot after the supreme court decision.
- Changing the flag from one including a confederate flag to one with a magnolia.
- Voter ID requirement

So only the last one would be a problem for the GOP, although changing all the state flags back again might be a bit of a pain in the ass.

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**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2021, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-party-is-the-party-of-evil/937187/577 "2021-05-17T22:25:44Z")

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[https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/operatives-planned-on-hiring-woman-to-go-undercover-to-lure-hr-mcmaster-and-fbi-agents-into-saying-bad-things-about-trump-new-report-says/ar-BB1gI0xx?li=BBnb7Kz](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/operatives-planned-on-hiring-woman-to-go-undercover-to-lure-hr-mcmaster-and-fbi-agents-into-saying-bad-things-about-trump-new-report-says/ar-BB1gI0xx?li=BBnb7Kz)

Republicans. ALL Republicans, suck.

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**Author:** ![Irishman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b487fb/32.png) [@Irishman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Irishman)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2021, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-party-is-the-party-of-evil/937187/578 "2021-05-20T16:49:05Z")

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Now they are against the bipartisan effort to investigate the Jan 6 attack on Congress. Even after the Dems gave them everything they wanted, instead of going Republican style and just forcing it on partisan lines.

That’s because it’s a direct assault on their party base, the people they are catering to to get and keep elected.

Nothing is going to change in this country until Conservatives stop listening to lies and start fighting for the truth.

Farhid Zaccharia from CNN had an excellent dissection of the takeover of the Republican Party, from the transformation by Goldwater and the John Birch Society, through the Southern Strategy and Reagan, the rise of Fox and Limbaugh and Gingrich, and how it led inevitably to Trump, or someone like Trump, feeding on the anger and sense of abandonment and betrayal that the Republican Party created with conservatives.

A betrayal of the ideas of small government, of reduced spending, of balanced budgets and fiscal responsibility, of fighting social change and reversing Roe v. Wade. Gone are reasoned arguments from the right - the Republican Party has become the party of anger and racism. The fear of whites losing power, the fear of secularization, the fear of the marginalized getting equal standing in society.

I know many of you probably know most of this, but some of it predates me and I wasn’t knowledgeable about the Goldwater shift. I learned a few things with this show.

America will not be able to recover until the Right is held accountable to the truth, that alternative news sources are scrutinized and held accountable, and reasonable principled conservatives fight to displace the Qanon and Trump hysteria. I don’t think the Left can bring the Right around - it will take forces on the Right holding their own accountable and fighting the nonsense.

Facts:  
Joe Biden won the election fairly. The election was not rigged. There was no widespread fraud from the Dems.

Donald Trump led efforts to overthrow the rightful election, including trying to coerce Republican election officials and government leaders to change the outcome of the election and certify new results based on whatever lies they needed. Including stirring up a mob he knew included elements of violence and chaos (Proud Boys, Oath Keepers, etc) and pointing them at the Capitol and Congress and Pence. Then watching in glee while they violently assaulted Capitol Police.

Joe Biden and the Democrats are not a giant ring of satanic pedophiles. Anyone trying to argue they are is deluded.

The right doesn’t really care about pedophiles - they are perfectly fine with Matt Gaetz, Jeffery Epstein, and the like. It’s just a bludgeon to claim against Democrats because who can be for pedophiles? Well, Gaetz doesn’t count because reasons and Epstein doesn’t matter because he’s dead now.

Donald Trump is not a christian. That would require him to believe in a greater power than himself. His awkward ploys for evangelical support are embarrassingly transparent, hamhanded, and demonstrate his total lack of sincerity. (“Two Corinthians.” “It is _a_ bible.”) Yet the evangelicals still support him because conservative judges and he’s actually doing something against abortion. They are either glad to have a useful tool, or are actually deluded into thinking his displays are sincere.

Just like his faux patriotism. He is such a clown. His displays get ever more obviously fake - he actually hugged an American Flag. It’s like he’s punking conservatives, they are falling for it, and he keeps trying ever more bold and transparent tells, but conservatives still aren’t waking up. “Oh man, I know, I will hug a Flag. That will show the joke.”

Zaccharia pulled out a quote from [William F. Buckley, Jr.](https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/William_F._Buckley,_Jr.), where he said, “A conservative is someone who stands athwart history, yelling Stop, at a time when no one is inclined to do so, or to have much patience with those who so urge it.” And Conservatives see that quote and think that’s a good thing.

I have news for you - you can’t stop history. It inexorably continues, day after day. The only way to actually stop it is to destroy human existence. There’s no more history only when there’s no one left to observe it. Conservatives seem inclined to think that that’s all they have left - ending history.

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**Author:** ![Dandan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a87d85/32.png) [@Dandan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dandan)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2021, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-party-is-the-party-of-evil/937187/579 "2021-05-20T17:17:28Z")

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> [@Irishman](#):
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> Farhid Zaccharia from CNN had an excellent dissection of the takeover of the Republican Party

I would like to see this - could you please give a little linky?

Dan

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2021, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-party-is-the-party-of-evil/937187/580 "2021-05-20T17:37:09Z")

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Will say, @Irishman, your thoughts go along with mine, about how the psychological condition of Denialism has become a near philosophy with the Right. And I wonder, from a Christian perspective, if the denial of God’s reality has reached a point where denialism is almost a sin, especially in how denial formed the framework of the Right’s COVID response, and subsequent denying of the unmitigated, _objective_ disaster their response was.

This simple denial of reality cost well over a half-million lives, for God’s sake.

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