# The Republican Party is the Party of Evil **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 4, 2021, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-party-is-the-party-of-evil/937187 "2021-03-04T17:43:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![WalterBishop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/aeb1de/32.png) [@WalterBishop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WalterBishop)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2021, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-party-is-the-party-of-evil/937187/101 "2021-03-05T23:43:17Z")
> [@Irishman](#): > > It has become abundantly clear that of the two major parties, one is fighting to help people and cares about human life, and the other does not. The Republican Party under Trump has become the party of spite, racism, meanness, hatred, and indifference. > . > . > . > I’m sure there are more things that I could list, but the above makes the case. It’s time for the Republican Party to be disbanded. Any reasonable conservative should abandon the party and start a new one. Yes, you will lose power for a while, but you will help improve the country by changing the landscape and the discourse for the better. In the end, true conservatism could make a comeback not hampered by the need to feed a shrinking demographic of white supremacists and conspiracy junkies. I self-identify as a conservative (not on _every_ issue, but enough of them), but I absolutely do _not_ self-identify as a Republican. I used to, back in the day, but not anymore. As such, I really couldn’t find much to disagree with in your post. If anything, in some respects I’d go further. You restricted your criticism to the party itself, but the root cause of the party’s problems is that too many republican _voters_ live in an alternate reality. I could write 20,000 words on the mass psychological dysfunction that’s gripped the republican base in the last ten years, but it’ll suffice to say that only one side has shirtless Vikings stalking the halls of Congress. Only one side is electing absolute fuckwits like Lauren Boebert, preppie psychopaths like Madison Cawthorn, and bona-fide howl-at-the-moon lunatics like Marjorie Taylor Greene. And only one side has a base that’s formed a personality cult around a carnival barking pathological liar that’s so devoted that they’ll literally die for him just because he owns the libs on Twitter. I don’t agree that the republican party should be disbanded, but that’s partly because I’m worried that if it splits in two, the sensible faction will be overwhelmed by the idiots and everything will get even worse. To fix the republican party, we need to somehow fix the republican base. Unfortunately, I have absolutely no idea how to do that. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2021, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-party-is-the-party-of-evil/937187/102 "2021-03-05T23:49:14Z")
> [@WalterBishop](#): > > that’s partly because I’m worried that if it splits in two, the sensible faction will be overwhelmed by the idiots and everything will get even worse. To fix the republican party, we need to somehow fix the republican base. Unfortunately, I have absolutely no idea how to do that. What I think would be optimal would be if the sensible conservatives joined the Democratic party. Then we have the party of sensible people against the non-sense. If, and hopefully soon, the Trump following republican party implodes, then the Democratic party can split up along ideological lines, and hopefully have two parties that oppose eachother on policies and ideals, not on reality itself. It’s a pipedream, I know. But it also seems to be the only way to salvage our country without us ending up in a civil war. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2021, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-party-is-the-party-of-evil/937187/103 "2021-03-06T00:01:33Z")
> [@WalterBishop](#): > > fix the republican party, we need to somehow fix the republican base. Unfortunately, I have absolutely no idea how to do that. I think they have to be deplatformed somehow, which isn’t easy. But there has to be a way, a movement that pushes back on the idea that they should be allowed to say whatever they want on Fox and on social media. I don’t necessarily believe the adage that more speech outcompetes outrageously bad speech – toxic speech can outcompete ‘good’ speech. At the same time, I don’t think the solution is a knee jerk reaction that involves outright attempts at brute force censorship either. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Anconia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@D\_Anconia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Anconia)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2021, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-party-is-the-party-of-evil/937187/104 "2021-03-06T02:13:01Z")
> [@Kimstu](#): > > You seem a bit mixed up about the point Ocasio-Cortez was actually making. No, of course she doesn’t support detention of undocumented aliens who are minors, or any others for that matter All is right with the world. They’re thinking about changing the name from detention centers to reception centers. That’ll fix it! Mr. Orwell would be proud. [EXCLUSIVE — ‘Reception centers’: Biden eyes friendlier name for new migrant facilities (msn.com)](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/exclusive-%E2%80%94-reception-centers-biden-eyes-friendlier-name-for-new-migrant-facilities/ar-BB1ehFVC) ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2021, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-party-is-the-party-of-evil/937187/105 "2021-03-06T02:19:27Z")
> [@k9bfriender](#): > > And make them get gay married. One comedian had this to say about people who freak out when propositioned by someone of the same gender: “You do not have to say yes”. Nobody’s making these idiots get married to someone of the same gender. ---
**Author:** ![Exapno\_Mapcase](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/exapno_mapcase/32/1051_2.png) [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2021, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-party-is-the-party-of-evil/937187/106 "2021-03-06T02:20:36Z")
From your own link: > In particular, one official said, the new name would mark the Biden administration’s intention to use the “reception centers” not for holding people in custody, but for serving as sending-off points for releasing migrants into the United States. > > “These facilities are going up, but they’re being utilized differently. The direction is very clear. Release them as fast as possible,” said the first person. So they’re renaming them because they’re going to have a different purpose, which is **not to be evil like the Trump administration**. Thank you for helping to prove our argument. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Anconia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@D\_Anconia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Anconia)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2021, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-party-is-the-party-of-evil/937187/107 "2021-03-06T02:28:41Z")
> [@Exapno\_Mapcase](#): > > Thank you for helping to prove our argument. You skipped over the earlier statement, and your argument, such as it is, hasn’t been proven. Direct quote: “Biden officials are considering naming the facilities “reception centers,” according to three people familiar with the discussions, on the logic that the name is less harsh-sounding.” ---
**Author:** ![Wesley\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wesley_clark/32/20581_2.png) [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2021, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-party-is-the-party-of-evil/937187/108 "2021-03-06T02:36:48Z")
Whats fucked up is as recently as 2006, when the voting rights act was up for reauthorization and it passed 390-33 in the house and 98-0 in the senate. That would never pass in 2021. The GOP would do everything they could to block it. The GOP has gone authoritarian rather rapidly. I thought another study showed a major move towards authoritarianism in the GOP in just the last 20 years. But its the same GOP politicians for the most part who are in congress. Will it ever get better or will it just keep getting worse? Will it get better when older white people die off? Who knows. ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2021, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-party-is-the-party-of-evil/937187/109 "2021-03-06T03:03:30Z")
> [@D\_Anconia](#): > > “Biden officials are considering naming the facilities “reception centers,” according to three people familiar with the discussions, on the logic that the name is less harsh-sounding.” If they’ve changed the purpose of the centers, why shoudn’t they rename them? You imply that renaming them will not fix the problems, but you ignore the fact that they are also trying to fix the problems. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2021, 3:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-party-is-the-party-of-evil/937187/110 "2021-03-06T03:55:13Z")
> [@Colibri](#): > > {…} but you ignore the fact that they are also trying to fix the problems. Let me channel my inner @D_Anconia … _Fix what problems? There are no problems._ ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2021, 3:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-party-is-the-party-of-evil/937187/111 "2021-03-06T03:56:40Z")
Biden inherited a problem that Trump was also confronted with, and one that neither president created. There’s a crisis in Central America, which is causing dislocation. The difference is that one president is at least trying to handle it humanely, not boasting about how he’s keeping immigrants out. If anything, Biden’s actions shoot holes in the theory that Democrats are for open borders. Not that I expect you to acknowledge that, though. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Anconia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@D\_Anconia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Anconia)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2021, 4:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-party-is-the-party-of-evil/937187/112 "2021-03-06T04:15:10Z")
Maybe it’s just the msn reporting, but that article implies that the first reason was to make it less harsh sounding. Changing the focus of the centers was listed secondarily. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2021, 4:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-party-is-the-party-of-evil/937187/113 "2021-03-06T04:17:27Z")
> [@D\_Anconia](#): > > {…} that article implies {…} Need another refresher on the difference between _imply_ and _infer_? ---
**Author:** ![D\_Anconia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@D\_Anconia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Anconia)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2021, 4:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-party-is-the-party-of-evil/937187/114 "2021-03-06T04:20:27Z")
Nope. The article implied harsh sounding, by listing it first. If you want to infer another meaning, that’s on you. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2021, 4:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-party-is-the-party-of-evil/937187/115 "2021-03-06T04:21:38Z")
+1 This ^ ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2021, 4:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-party-is-the-party-of-evil/937187/116 "2021-03-06T04:21:55Z")
> [@D\_Anconia](#): > > The article implied it, by listing it first. If you want to infer another meaning, that’s on you. They neither implied or inferred-You twisted and lied about the article, and that’s on _you_. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Anconia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@D\_Anconia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Anconia)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2021, 4:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-party-is-the-party-of-evil/937187/117 "2021-03-06T04:25:00Z")
Fuck off, quoting the article itself cannot be lying. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2021, 4:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-party-is-the-party-of-evil/937187/118 "2021-03-06T04:26:49Z")
> [@D\_Anconia](#): > > Fuck off, quoting the article itself cannot be lying But lying about what the quote means _is_ lying so neener neener. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2021, 4:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-party-is-the-party-of-evil/937187/119 "2021-03-06T04:28:24Z")
Bruh, you have a documented history of taking snippets and taking them out of context. You don’t respond to legitimate questions or posts. Fuck yourself. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2021, 4:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-party-is-the-party-of-evil/937187/120 "2021-03-06T04:29:04Z")
> [@D\_Anconia](#): > > Maybe it’s just the msn reporting, but that article implies that the first reason was to make it less harsh sounding. Nah, I think this is more a function of you being a deeply stupid person with poor reading skills. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-party-is-the-party-of-evil/937187.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-party-is-the-party-of-evil/937187.md?page=7)