# The Republican War on Voting Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [March 11, 2021, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-war-on-voting-thread/937723 "2021-03-11T17:30:46Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 35
**Author:** ![D\_Anconia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@D\_Anconia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Anconia)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2022, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-war-on-voting-thread/937723/681 "2022-10-30T23:26:05Z")
Maybe because “whataboutism” isn’t an argument, let alone one that deserves addressing. ---
**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2022, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-war-on-voting-thread/937723/682 "2022-10-30T23:29:22Z")
You make it clear you don’t understand the meaning of the term “whataboutism”. I’m comparing two situations that are similar, not raising a different issue. The fact you can’t or won’t explain why behavior by white folks is just fine but by black folks is intimidation says all I need to know. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Anconia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@D\_Anconia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Anconia)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2022, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-war-on-voting-thread/937723/683 "2022-10-30T23:29:25Z")
> [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](#): > > They were confronting people and calling them mules. That doesn’t meet the legal definition of a threat. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2022, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-war-on-voting-thread/937723/684 "2022-10-30T23:31:19Z")
I ammend my previous comment to include the obvious disclaimer that if ones race has historically been shat upon by the American government, including ones right to vote, using a gun to protect ones rights does not necessarily reveal one to be a dipshit. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Anconia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@D\_Anconia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Anconia)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2022, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-war-on-voting-thread/937723/685 "2022-10-30T23:31:30Z")
> [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](#): > > The fact you can’t or won’t explain why behavior by white folks is just fine but by black folks is intimidation says all I need to know. I didn’t say that. Please DO NOT put words in my mouth. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2022, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-war-on-voting-thread/937723/686 "2022-10-30T23:31:36Z")
You could just say that given your position on the recent activity that what New Black Panthers did was in no way voter intimidation. But that would require admitting that some folks :cough: conservatives :cough: have two different standards for the “same” activity. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Anconia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@D\_Anconia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Anconia)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2022, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-war-on-voting-thread/937723/687 "2022-10-30T23:33:35Z")
I have made no comment, one way or another, about the New Black Panthers in this thread. Don’t ascribe my position for me, thanks. ---
**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2022, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-war-on-voting-thread/937723/688 "2022-10-30T23:33:45Z")
Then quit ignoring it and explain the difference between the two situations. Or are you saying you disagree with the GOP claims that the 2008 incident was voter intimidation? ---
**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2022, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-war-on-voting-thread/937723/689 "2022-10-30T23:34:37Z")
Ignoring it makes your position self evident. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2022, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-war-on-voting-thread/937723/690 "2022-10-30T23:34:57Z")
I/we didn’t, you won’t state your position! ---
**Author:** ![D\_Anconia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@D\_Anconia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Anconia)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2022, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-war-on-voting-thread/937723/691 "2022-10-30T23:35:21Z")
I don’t know anything about “the 2008 incident” to make an informed comment. ---
**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2022, 11:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-war-on-voting-thread/937723/692 "2022-10-30T23:38:35Z")
It’s pretty straightforward and simple to learn about. It’s obvious you have access to the internet so do a search. “2008 Philadelphia Voter Intimidation” should work fine. Plus, you’ve been provided with a pretty straightforward outline of what happened and I linked to an article about it upthread. Any lack of knowledge about the incident at this point makes it seem like willful ignorance. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2022, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-war-on-voting-thread/937723/693 "2022-10-30T23:39:36Z")
In Before: Someone rejects the, already, linked cite! ---
**Author:** ![D\_Anconia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@D\_Anconia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Anconia)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2022, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-war-on-voting-thread/937723/694 "2022-10-30T23:42:48Z")
No, that’s not how it works. “Do a search” is not how GD/PE operates. You make a statement, you back it up. ---
**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2022, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-war-on-voting-thread/937723/695 "2022-10-30T23:44:41Z")
I’ve backed it up with a cite twice now. The fact you choose to continue ignoring it makes it clear where you stand. ---
**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2022, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-war-on-voting-thread/937723/696 "2022-10-30T23:47:56Z")
Additional cite #1 > **[Justice Department Seeks Injunction Against New Black Panther Party](https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/justice-department-seeks-injunction-against-new-black-panther-party)** > > The Department today filed a lawsuit under the Voting Rights Act against the New Black Panther Party for Self-Defense and three of its members alleging that the defendants intimidated voters and those aiding them during the Nov. 4, 2008, general... Additional cite #2 [https://www.heritage.org/commentary/voter-intimidation-new-black-panther-style](https://www.heritage.org/commentary/voter-intimidation-new-black-panther-style) ---
**Author:** ![Sylvanz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/fbc32d/32.png) [@Sylvanz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sylvanz)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2022, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-war-on-voting-thread/937723/697 "2022-10-31T00:38:10Z")
I can’t figure out why these guys are allowed to do what they’re doing. It is clearly voter intimidation intentional and flagrant. I wonder what would happen if armed, black, drop box watchers, showed up in a primarily white district. Hmmm, I just can’t imagine what would happen. 🤔 ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2022, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-war-on-voting-thread/937723/698 "2022-10-31T00:45:19Z")
> [@D\_Anconia](#): > > I didn’t say that. Please DO NOT put words in my mouth. So, your defense to not saying something is to insist that you didn’t say it? ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2022, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-war-on-voting-thread/937723/699 "2022-10-31T01:46:03Z")
I can. The police would find some grounds to arrest them. Probably “disturbing the peace”, or “voter intimidation”. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2022, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-war-on-voting-thread/937723/700 "2022-10-31T02:09:38Z")
The police wouldn’t need any more grounds than the guys being black. Blackness is intrinsically threatening, amirite? Just ask that lunatic woman who was walking her dog in Central Park and encountered a \<_gasp_\> Black man looking at birds. > **[Central Park birdwatching incident](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_Park_birdwatching_incident)** > > On May 25, 2020, a confrontation occurred between Christian Cooper (a black birder) and unrelated Amy Cooper (a white dogwalker) in a section of New York City's Central Park known as the Ramble. > Amy's dog was unleashed in the Ramble, an area where leashing is required for the safety of the wildlife; she allegedly refused Christian's request that her dog be leashed. When Christian beckoned the dog toward him with a dog treat, Amy yelled "Don't you touch my dog!" Christian started recording Amy,... [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-war-on-voting-thread/937723.md?page=34) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republican-war-on-voting-thread/937723.md?page=36)