# The Republicans are finally trying to win over the female vote. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [August 28, 2012, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republicans-are-finally-trying-to-win-over-the-female-vote/632940 "2012-08-28T16:04:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![gamerunknown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/6bbea6/32.png) [@gamerunknown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gamerunknown)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2012, 1:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republicans-are-finally-trying-to-win-over-the-female-vote/632940/81 "2012-09-01T13:51:16Z")
> [@Omg a Black Conservative](#): > > “Democrats/liberals/progressives/whatever they’re calling themselves nowadays are apt to throw out the sexism/racism/bigot/fascist card but rarely-- if ever-- understand their meanings” which is a far cry from “attacking Democrats for unfounded accusations of sexism”. Those two statements are synonymous. If the accusations of the Democrats were correct, then they’d understand the meaning of the terms. Sexism is pertinent to the thread, I attempting to be as terse as possible. ---
**Author:** ![pinkyvee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/6de8d8/32.png) [@pinkyvee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pinkyvee)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2012, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republicans-are-finally-trying-to-win-over-the-female-vote/632940/82 "2012-09-01T14:49:54Z")
> [@davidm](#): > > [http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2012/08/27/750841/woman-up-salon-convention/](http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2012/08/27/750841/woman-up-salon-convention/) I’ve attended a lot of female-prominent medical conventions. Several of them featured pampering/glamorizing booths. It was lovely getting a foot massage, a mini-facial, or some hair & make-up tips in between boring speeches. And the problem is what exactly? ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2012, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republicans-are-finally-trying-to-win-over-the-female-vote/632940/83 "2012-09-01T14:55:14Z")
That they don’t have conventions for minimum-wage workers? ---
**Author:** ![pinkyvee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/6de8d8/32.png) [@pinkyvee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pinkyvee)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2012, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republicans-are-finally-trying-to-win-over-the-female-vote/632940/84 "2012-09-01T15:08:26Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > That they don’t have conventions for minimum-wage workers? How do you know the wages and earnings of the female delegates who attended this convention? And the female delegates who attend next week’s convention? ---
**Author:** ![Lynn\_Bodoni](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e47c2d/32.png) [@Lynn\_Bodoni](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lynn_Bodoni)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2012, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republicans-are-finally-trying-to-win-over-the-female-vote/632940/85 "2012-09-01T16:27:06Z")
> [@pinkyvee](#): > > I’ve attended a lot of female-prominent medical conventions. Several of them featured pampering/glamorizing booths. It was lovely getting a foot massage, a mini-facial, or some hair & make-up tips in between boring speeches. And the problem is what exactly? I think that both sexes would probably benefit from a foot massage, and I also think that if men could get over the girly factor, they might benefit from a mini-facial and/or some grooming tips. Sisters, let’s let men know that massages can be wonderful! And that combovers don’t fool anyone! ---
**Author:** ![pinkyvee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/6de8d8/32.png) [@pinkyvee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pinkyvee)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2012, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republicans-are-finally-trying-to-win-over-the-female-vote/632940/86 "2012-09-01T16:38:30Z")
> [@Lynn\_Bodoni](#): > > I think that both sexes would probably benefit from a foot massage, and I also think that if men could get over the girly factor, they might benefit from a mini-facial and/or some grooming tips. Sisters, let’s let men know that massages can be wonderful! And that combovers don’t fool anyone! Exactly ! PS: I can’t even convince my husband to get a massage, much less a facial. When I ask him about it, he goes and fills my gas tank, and I shut-up. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2012, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republicans-are-finally-trying-to-win-over-the-female-vote/632940/87 "2012-09-01T19:51:28Z")
Did you marry him with the face he already had? Did he marry you because of your, ah, massage skills? ---
**Author:** ![Icerigger](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/icerigger/32/432_2.png) [@Icerigger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Icerigger)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2012, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republicans-are-finally-trying-to-win-over-the-female-vote/632940/88 "2012-09-01T20:01:56Z")
A public service add for the victims of ape, legitimate rape of course. [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/KtzqvqzBdUQ/maxresdefault.jpg ""Legitimate Rape" Pharmaceutical Ad (TW)") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KtzqvqzBdUQ) ---
**Author:** ![pinkyvee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/6de8d8/32.png) [@pinkyvee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pinkyvee)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2012, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republicans-are-finally-trying-to-win-over-the-female-vote/632940/89 "2012-09-01T20:07:34Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > Did you marry him with the face he already had? Did he marry you because of your, ah, massage skills? He has a face like Walter Matthau. Adorable. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2012, 6:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republicans-are-finally-trying-to-win-over-the-female-vote/632940/90 "2012-09-03T06:13:10Z")
“Until a man is married, he isn’t complete. Once he gets married, then he is finished.” - Sza Sza Gabor ---
**Author:** ![j666](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9de0a6/32.png) [@j666](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/j666)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2012, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republicans-are-finally-trying-to-win-over-the-female-vote/632940/91 "2012-09-03T14:14:34Z")
> [@pinkyvee](#): > > I’ve attended a lot of female-prominent medical conventions. Several of them featured pampering/glamorizing booths. It was lovely getting a foot massage, a mini-facial, or some hair & make-up tips in between boring speeches. And the problem is what exactly? It’s hard to discuss the finer points of a presentation with a clay masque on your face. Not being as successful as I have no doubt you are\*, I would be looking for tips on new industry standards in my field, rather than hair and make-ups. (\* That is not supposed to sound facetious; I don’t know if it came across right …) ---
**Author:** ![zweisamkeit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zweisamkeit/32/4360_2.png) [@zweisamkeit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zweisamkeit)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2012, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republicans-are-finally-trying-to-win-over-the-female-vote/632940/92 "2012-09-03T14:33:59Z")
> [@Omg\_a\_Black\_Conservative](#): > > Anyway, maybe someone should take a cue from the GOP and set up a beauty stand at the Democratic national convention because there sure are some behemoths in the Democratic party. > > (Oh, but that must mean I’m a sexist, right?) It’s not 100% proven by that statement, but it’s pretty damn likely. How many times do you comment on a male politician’s appearance or attractiveness compared to a female politician’s? Many people will deny that things like the following are sexist. - snarking on Hillary Clinton wearing pant suits. - commenting that a female politician looks “haggard” way more than they do for a male politician. - comments or questions about a FP’s hairstyle, makeup or jewelry. - criticism if a FP isn’t wearing makeup. - calling FPs “behemoths”, ugly hags or the like. - thinking any of the above is somehow relevant WRT a female politician when it clearly is irrelevant WRT a male politician. ---
**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2012, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republicans-are-finally-trying-to-win-over-the-female-vote/632940/93 "2012-09-03T14:36:53Z")
> [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](#): > > That’s about the level of intellect to be expected from someone who took teenage girl text speak for a user name. Hey, **Omg a Black Conservative** might be mean, sexist, and willfully ignorant… but that user name makes me laugh every time. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2012, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republicans-are-finally-trying-to-win-over-the-female-vote/632940/94 "2012-09-03T16:13:12Z")
Oh, I dunno. **OMG** is kind of right. If this “Woman Up” thing is sponsored by some independent organization and not the RNC, it’s hard to blame them for it. ---
**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2012, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republicans-are-finally-trying-to-win-over-the-female-vote/632940/95 "2012-09-03T17:54:12Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > Oh, I dunno. **OMG** is kind of right. If this “Woman Up” thing is sponsored by some independent organization and not the RNC, it’s hard to blame them for it. I think it’s silly, but not worth getting too worked up about, and it doesn’t really matter to me if it was the RNC or just random Republican group sponsoring it. It might be seen as symbolic of the Republican party’s fierce devotion to traditional gender roles, but… at the end of the day, we’ve still got women without reproductive care struggling for equal representation, and I’m more pissed off about that stuff than anything else. ETA: But I do recognize the intrinsic absurdity of this somehow being a way to reach out to women voters… reminds me of when Ann Romney said she had strong ties to the Latino community because she’d been to Puerto Rico. Sure you do, dear. ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2012, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republicans-are-finally-trying-to-win-over-the-female-vote/632940/96 "2012-09-03T18:24:27Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > Well, basic mockery aside… How DARE you put basic mockery aside! Cecil Adams built The Straight Dope on basic mockery and we at the SDMB are pledged to uphold that tradition of nearly forty years. If you are not willing to indulge in basic mockery freely and at any opportunity I cannot see why you would wish to remain. Go find some polite message board, like one for crocheting baby booties. There is no place for Canadian attitudes\*\*\*\* here. :mad: ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2012, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republicans-are-finally-trying-to-win-over-the-female-vote/632940/97 "2012-09-03T20:18:41Z")
> [@Omg\_a\_Black\_Conservative](#): > > Yeah, stupid and patronizing. That’s what it is. > > (Oh wait, no it’s not.) > > Righteous indignation strikes again. > > Anyway, maybe someone should take a cue from the GOP and set up a beauty stand at the Democratic national convention because there sure are some behemoths in the Democratic party. > > (Oh, but that must mean I’m a sexist, right?) Why wouldn’t it? You just said we SHOULD set up a makeup booth for women because our women are ugly. You just admitted that you value women for how pleasing they look to you. Telling women they have to “woman up” to be valuable, when woman up is clearly designed as being make-up related is sexist. You almost had a point, but then you go and squander it by not knowing what words mean. Why do you repeatedly do this? Why in the world don’t you deconstruct what you say before you say it, since you know we will do it to you, since you have clearly labeled yourself as an enemy of the general bent of this board? I mean, you’re actually right–this is a non-story. It’s just a silly fluff piece about how out of touch Republicans are in what women want. It’s silly that they think they are appealing to women by setting up booths that repeat the same message that women are already rejecting. But every time you have a point, you have to ruin it with your stupidity. ---
**Author:** ![Enkel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/df705f/32.png) [@Enkel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enkel)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2012, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republicans-are-finally-trying-to-win-over-the-female-vote/632940/98 "2012-09-03T20:20:54Z")
> [@Omg\_a\_Black\_Conservative](#): > > No, it isn’t. I’m curious as to where some of you get your information from (I mean, besides ThinkProgress)? Or do you just make stuff up which sounds nice? [The Woman Up! campaign was sponsored by the YG Network pac](http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2012/08/27/first-on-cnn-sheldon-and-miriam-adelson-coming-to-republican-convention/). Now, last I checked, I don’t think what a pac does or sponsors constitutes the “official” outreach of the political party to whomever. I mis-wrote. The Young Guns Network is by the House Republicans and Woman Up is from the Young Guns Network. So, yes I did confuse the RNC and the House Republicans. I couldn’t find any reference to either as a PAC? [http://www.politicususa.com/republicans-have-awakened-a-livid-female-giant-who-will-make-them-pay.html](http://www.politicususa.com/republicans-have-awakened-a-livid-female-giant-who-will-make-them-pay.html) > [@](#): > > This past week, House minority leader Eric Cantor’s Young Guns group announced a multi-million dollar media campaign called “Woman Up” to convince voters there is no war on women. During a closed-door fundraiser this week, Willard Romney told supporters they needed to “get the women” on board to ensure his election to the White House, … [http://jezebel.com/5905544/conservatives-make-up-for-that-whole-war-on-women-business-with-club-especially-for-ladies](http://jezebel.com/5905544/conservatives-make-up-for-that-whole-war-on-women-business-with-club-especially-for-ladies) > [@](#): > > The original Young Guns Network was founded by Republican legislators Kevin McCarthy, Paul Ryan, and Eric Cantor in 2007 as a way for the three middle aged political nerds to reach out to the cool youths of today. ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2012, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republicans-are-finally-trying-to-win-over-the-female-vote/632940/99 "2012-09-03T20:26:55Z")
Og knows what Republican women want. Clearly they’re a few bats short of a belfry if they stick with the Party in the face of the political positions that are so hostile to women’s rights. ---
**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2012, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republicans-are-finally-trying-to-win-over-the-female-vote/632940/100 "2012-09-03T20:58:42Z")
> [@Boyo\_Jim](#): > > Og knows what Republican women want. Clearly they’re a few bats short of a belfry if they stick with the Party in the face of the political positions that are so hostile to women’s rights. It’s obvious. They stay for the free beauty tips. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republicans-are-finally-trying-to-win-over-the-female-vote/632940.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republicans-are-finally-trying-to-win-over-the-female-vote/632940.md?page=6)