# The Republicans are swine cunts

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republicans-are-swine-cunts/333481>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 1, 2005, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republicans-are-swine-cunts/333481 "2005-12-01T00:27:05Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![KarlGauss](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/karlgauss/32/3713_2.png) [@KarlGauss](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KarlGauss)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2005, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republicans-are-swine-cunts/333481/81 "2005-12-01T18:44:01Z")

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That’s right - meddle around in Iraq and get kidnapped. Then blame your ill fortune on [American and British aggression](http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/ContentServer?pagename=thestar/Layout/Article_Type1&call_pageid=971358637177&c=Article&cid=1133262800785). Assholes!

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**Author:** ![KarlGauss](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/karlgauss/32/3713_2.png) [@KarlGauss](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KarlGauss)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2005, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republicans-are-swine-cunts/333481/82 "2005-12-01T18:45:23Z")

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> [@KarlGauss](#):
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> That’s right - meddle around in Iraq and get kidnapped. Then blame your ill fortune on [American and British aggression](http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/ContentServer?pagename=thestar/Layout/Article_Type1&call_pageid=971358637177&c=Article&cid=1133262800785). Assholes!

Oops! Wrong thread. Sorry.

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**Author:** ![Twin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/85f322/32.png) [@Twin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Twin)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2005, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republicans-are-swine-cunts/333481/83 "2005-12-01T20:05:43Z")

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> [@FinnAgain](#):
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> [I am now legally required to post this.](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v294/finnagain/LiberalsHate.gif)

\*Views image…

Looks up at thread title…

Irony meter snaps…\*

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**Author:** ![Psycho\_Pirate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Psycho\_Pirate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Psycho_Pirate)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2005, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republicans-are-swine-cunts/333481/84 "2005-12-01T20:10:14Z")

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> [@FinnAgain](#):
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> [I am now legally required to post this.](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v294/finnagain/LiberalsHate.gif)

So when exactly did the “irrelevant non-sequitur law” go into effect? You can bet a Democrat passed it. 😉

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**Author:** ![The\_Hamster\_King](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8edcca/32.png) [@The\_Hamster\_King](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Hamster_King)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2005, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republicans-are-swine-cunts/333481/85 "2005-12-01T20:23:11Z")

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> [@Maureen](#):
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> Fully half of them won’t adhere to the uterine wall and will be gone at the end of the month.

According to a recent [UNC Chapel Hill study](http://www.unc.edu/news/archives/jun99/wilcox2.htm) the percentage is closer to 25% but that’s still enough to have serious implications for those who believe that human life begins at conception. That’s roughly 1,000,000 lost fertilized eggs per year in the United States alone.

If you believe that embryos have souls and souls go to heaven then 1/4 to 1/3 of the inhabitants of heaven have never walked upon the Earth, which is very odd to consider … .

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2005, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republicans-are-swine-cunts/333481/86 "2005-12-01T20:39:14Z")

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> [@Psycho Pirate](#):
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> So when exactly did the “irrelevant non-sequitur law” go into effect? You can bet a Democrat passed it. 😉

It’s relevant alright.

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**Author:** ![lissener](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lissener/32/6139_2.png) [@lissener](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lissener)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2005, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republicans-are-swine-cunts/333481/87 "2005-12-01T20:56:17Z")

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> [@Twin](#):
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> \*Views image…
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> Looks up at thread title…
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> Irony meter snaps…\*

This is why I sometimes find myself thinking that rightwingers are either retarded, or pathologically dishonest. What a lame, lame strawman.\*

Is there anything about the OP’s characterization that says Democrats never do the same thing, or that no individual republicans ever speak anything else?

Is there anything about that cartoon that suggests that it represents all democrats and all republicans in all situations? It’s describing a situation that is a frequent occurrence in such places as Faux News; it does not take the position that this situation is the only situation that ever occurs between republicans and democrats.

In other words, a democrat getting fed up and calling names does not in any way invalidate what makes that cartoon pointed and funny

\*_If you’re actually retarded, Twin, please accept my apologies._

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**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2005, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republicans-are-swine-cunts/333481/88 "2005-12-01T21:31:36Z")

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> [@Pochacco](#):
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> X :rolleyes:

Who is Dick Cheney?

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**Author:** ![HPL](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/3da27b/32.png) [@HPL](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HPL)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2005, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republicans-are-swine-cunts/333481/89 "2005-12-01T22:17:08Z")

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> [@mstay](#):
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> Oh man, this board is going to be totally unhinged when the Republicans, yet again, win in '08. Then again, the canidate might not be offensively incompetent…but there’s no guarantee to that, either – why stop with what’s working?

I give up: What’s working?

Iraq?

Torture?

Saddam’s WMD’s?

Bin Laden’s jail cell?

Running up an enormous deficiet instead of raisng taxes to pay for a “depeseratly needed” war?

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2005, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republicans-are-swine-cunts/333481/90 "2005-12-01T22:18:55Z")

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It’s the betrayal. Several of my centerish friends are like that. They agonized over it, and decided that, in a time of crisis, they were obligated to support GeeDub because he needed the resolution as back up, to empower his negotiations as a means to avoid war. Which, you will recall, he was swearing up and down was his intention.

Since I never trusted him as far as I could fling a rhino, that sense of rage is not mine. I wasn’t betrayed, I never trusted him to begin with. But those who did, and have the good sense God gave a goose…they be _pissed_! Hooo, doggies!

Don’t get fooled again.

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**Author:** ![Twin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/85f322/32.png) [@Twin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Twin)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2005, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republicans-are-swine-cunts/333481/91 "2005-12-01T22:20:27Z")

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> [@lissener](#):
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> This is why I sometimes find myself thinking that rightwingers are either retarded, or pathologically dishonest. What a lame, lame strawman.\*

It’s not a strawman. It’s pointing out hypocrisy.

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> Is there anything about the OP’s characterization that says Democrats never do the same thing, or that no individual republicans ever speak anything else?

No. But why then isn’t the thread dedicated to all politicians? The implication is there. It doesn’t say Some Republicans. It says Republicans.

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> Is there anything about that cartoon that suggests that it represents all democrats and all republicans in all situations? It’s describing a situation that is a frequent occurrence in such places as Faux News; it does not take the position that this situation is the only situation that ever occurs between republicans and democrats.

What a joke. It describes a “frequent occurrence”? Maybe in the liberal fantasy world. You poor, poor, put upon, misunderstood souls.

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> In other words, a democrat getting fed up and calling names does not in any way invalidate what makes that cartoon pointed and funny

I guess I just have a higher standard of humor.

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**Author:** ![lissener](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lissener/32/6139_2.png) [@lissener](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lissener)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2005, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republicans-are-swine-cunts/333481/92 "2005-12-01T22:40:53Z")

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One of my rules of thumb is, if the response to a criticism is basically “I know you are but what am I,” rather than an actual response to the substance of the criticism, then it’s probably found its mark.

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**Author:** ![vibrotronica](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/a9a28c/32.png) [@vibrotronica](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vibrotronica)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2005, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republicans-are-swine-cunts/333481/93 "2005-12-01T22:41:43Z")

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Well, this is going well!

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**Author:** ![Asylum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/53a042/32.png) [@Asylum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Asylum)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2005, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republicans-are-swine-cunts/333481/94 "2005-12-01T23:01:45Z")

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> [@Pochacco](#):
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> According to a recent [UNC Chapel Hill study](http://www.unc.edu/news/archives/jun99/wilcox2.htm) the percentage is closer to 25% but that’s still enough to have serious implications for those who believe that human life begins at conception. That’s roughly 1,000,000 lost fertilized eggs per year in the United States alone.

Why does it have serious implications?

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> If you believe that embryos have souls and souls go to heaven then 1/4 to 1/3 of the inhabitants of heaven have never walked upon the Earth, which is very odd to consider … .

Again, why?

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**Author:** ![George\_Kaplin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/3e96dc/32.png) [@George\_Kaplin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/George_Kaplin)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2005, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republicans-are-swine-cunts/333481/95 "2005-12-01T23:10:08Z")

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Presumably because if we assume that

(A) All embryo’s have souls.

and

(B) God is omniscient and knows which embryo’s would take and which wouldn’t.

It means he deliberately created a lot of souls simply for the purpose of their darting back up to heaven. What’d be the point of that?

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**Author:** ![Syntropy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/65b543/32.png) [@Syntropy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Syntropy)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2005, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republicans-are-swine-cunts/333481/96 "2005-12-01T23:23:49Z")

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This is usually answered with something along the lines of “No one can know God’s plan. There’s a reason for everything.” :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![Asylum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/53a042/32.png) [@Asylum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Asylum)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2005, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republicans-are-swine-cunts/333481/97 "2005-12-01T23:26:23Z")

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What’s the difference between an embryo dying and a baby suffering crib death? Also, although it’s been awhile since I’ve been to church, since when were we supposed to understand all of God’s design anyways? Why does anyone have to die to go to heaven?

Also, I’m agnostic, so I don’t really have a dog in this fight. I just found that the logic used in that argument was sloppy.

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**Author:** ![George\_Kaplin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/3e96dc/32.png) [@George\_Kaplin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/George_Kaplin)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2005, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republicans-are-swine-cunts/333481/98 "2005-12-01T23:37:16Z")

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> [@Asylum](#):
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> What’s the difference between an embryo dying and a baby suffering crib death? Also, although it’s been awhile since I’ve been to church, since when were we supposed to understand all of God’s design anyways? Why does anyone have to die to go to heaven?
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> Also, I’m agnostic, so I don’t really have a dog in this fight. I just found that the logic used in that argument was sloppy.

Beats me. Although one could argue that since you’re burdened with original sin from the moment you pop out of the womb, it’s not 100% guaranteed that your soul will go to heaven if you die as a baby, since you need to be baptised else the stain of that original sin will send you straight to hell, or at least limbo.

Still, crib death and the hell/purgatory-bound souls of babies are just two of the many, many, _many_ reasons why I don’t believe in God so it makes little odds to me either way.

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**Author:** ![Syntropy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/65b543/32.png) [@Syntropy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Syntropy)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2005, 11:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republicans-are-swine-cunts/333481/99 "2005-12-01T23:38:24Z")

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> [@Asylum](#):
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> What’s the difference between an embryo dying and a baby suffering crib death?

Quite a bit, really. Has a lot to do with that icky science stuff our president is trying to suppress. An embryo which does not attach to the uterine wall could have any number of things wrong with it and would probably not survive the entire gestation period, even if the egg did manage to adhere to the uterine wall because of serious genetic defects (see earlier cite), or [here](http://www.marchofdimes.com/professionals/681_1192.asp). A baby who dies from SIDS is a fully formed and functioning human being. Most of the time, the embryo in question is only a clump of cells nowhere near fully formed.

> [@](#):
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> Also, although it’s been awhile since I’ve been to church, since when were we supposed to understand all of God’s design anyways?

YES! What do I win?

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**Author:** ![duffer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/duffer/32/1026_2.png) [@duffer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/duffer)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2005, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republicans-are-swine-cunts/333481/100 "2005-12-01T23:48:48Z")

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> [@World Eater](#):
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> Who is Dick Cheney?

I just figured out a way for the Reader to make enough money to reverse the P2P model.

Sell dish towels marketed as “Official SDMB keyboard/monitor cleaner upper”. There are millions to be made!  
**’luci** I really need to learn to stop reading your posts with the assumption it’s another left-wing screed and actually comtemplate many of them deeper. great post.

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