# The Republicans are swine cunts

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republicans-are-swine-cunts/333481>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 1, 2005, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republicans-are-swine-cunts/333481 "2005-12-01T00:27:05Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2005, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republicans-are-swine-cunts/333481/101 "2005-12-01T23:49:50Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> It’s the betrayal. Several of my centerish friends are like that. They agonized over it, and decided that, in a time of crisis, they were obligated to support GeeDub because he needed the resolution as back up, to empower his negotiations as a means to avoid war. Which, you will recall, he was swearing up and down was his intention.
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> Since I never trusted him as far as I could fling a rhino, that sense of rage is not mine. I wasn’t betrayed, I never trusted him to begin with. But those who did, and have the good sense God gave a goose…they be _pissed_! Hooo, doggies!
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> Don’t get fooled again.

Well I felt betrayed, and quick too. I supported Bush about bin Laden and Afghanistan. Then I watched him abandon all that to go on his own little adventure in Iraq. I watched the half truths and lies unfold. I got mad. Real mad. Now this

> [@Huffingtonpost.com](#):
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> Bush takes Cheney out of the loop on national security
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> Cheney’s influence has waned not only because of bad chemistry, but because the White House no longer formulates policy," another source said.
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> “There’s nothing to input into. Cheney is smart and knowledgeable, but he as well as Bush are ducking all the time to avoid the bullets.” …  
> “There’s a lack of trust that the president has in Cheney and it’s connected with **Iraq** ,” a source said.
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> The sources said Mr. **Bush has privately blamed Mr. Cheney and Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld for the U.S.-led war in Iraq**. They said the **president has told his senior aides that the vice president and defense secretary provided misleading assessments on Iraq’s weapons of mass destruction, as well as the capabilities of the regime of Saddam** Hussein.

So now the “war president” is trying to blame his closest people, now that his Veterans Day traitor speech backfired, and Cheney’s attacks backfired, and that Frau Blucher congresscritter’s attack backfired. Chickenshit bastard swine cunts. I never voted for him, but I did support him for a very short moment in time, on one issue.

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**Author:** ![Scylla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a5b964/32.png) [@Scylla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scylla)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2005, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republicans-are-swine-cunts/333481/102 "2005-12-01T23:57:41Z")

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Ok, I see many people have complimented **An Arky’s** post. That being true, it must represent the best thinking and most reasoned discourse of liberal thought.

I cannot afford to ingore it. If I am to suffer an ignominious denouement at the hands of left wing morons, it might as well be by the best of you. So, fearfully, let me examine this Magnum Opus:

But wait, I’m afraid. What if it’s too smart for me? What if it makes too much sense? What if it’s too well supported.

Fortunately, being a former Republican, I have no shortage of dirty tricks. I have Mr. T with me, and I’ll let him handle this one. Take it Mr. T.

> [@An Arky](#):
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> OK, juvenile insults aside, what real good has this Republican-dominated era generated?

Shut up fool. That’s a fine looking woman with you. MMMMM, Why don’t you come over Mama. You could use a real man.

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> Unlike their rhetoric, they’re spending our money like drunken sailors and concealing the truth about it.

I pity the fool who believes you. They ain’t hiding nothing. They spending money faster than I’d drop your ass in a ditch if you fuck with me. It ain’t being hid though.

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> They have gotten us into folly of a war that they didn’t plan for properly, and have concealed the truth about that.

Listen fool, what’s with all this “hiding?” They ain’t hiding nothing. You’re just saying that to make them look dishonest, but those Republicans are more than happy to fuck you right up the ass without the benefit of a reach around, and they’ll do it in public with a smile on their face.

“Folly war” “plan for properly.” Who the fuck are you that you’re such a fucking expert on folly wars, or poor planning. You just a back seat driving bitch, whining and complaining cause your boy ain’t at the steering wheel. Doesn’t matter what he does, you’re gonna bitch about it, cause that’s you do Balboa. You’re friend Creed’s a has been and you just whining and opinion making.

I am the champion. RRRRRR! RRRRRR!!!

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> Gave tax cuts that have driven up the deficit, mainly benefited those who don’t need it, and done very little to spur economic growth.

Bush took us back from a market crash, a terrorist attack, and a recession and now we got better than 3% GDP growth, and the Fed raising rates too slow it down for fear of inflation. You as ignorant as you are ugly. You **spend** your way out of a recession, fool. You give tax cuts to people who pay taxes, fool. You can’t give no tax cut to a homeless guy in the street. He don’t need no fucking tax cut. He need charity.

Dumbass, know wonder your woman’s staying at my house.

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> They have been caught paying to put propaganda in the news, here and in Iraq.

Oh no. Not propaganda. Mr. T didn’t know that. Oh mercy me.

You pathetic Balboa.

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> They have condoned and possibly ordered torture of human beings.

You a liar, fool. Who condoned torture? Give me a quote or I’ll fuck you up the ass.

As for “possibly” You “Possibly” a whining a bitch. Don’t be bitching to me about possibly. Every single one of you Democrat pussies is “possibly” a serial killer.

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> They have ordered war actions that have killed _thousands_ of innocent people in Iraq and Afghanistan, not to mention a whole bunch of our own citizens, in a war started on false pretenses.

Yeah. No shit. People die in a war, fool. People die when motherfuckers fly planes into buildings. Just because you too stupid to understand the reasons, just because you pretend it’s false pretenses don’t make it so. Only a fool beleives you. The President’s on record listing the reasons over and over again. Just because you’re a dumbass who can only focus on one variable of a complex problem, don’t mean everybody ass is a dumbass. “WMDs, WMDs. There were no WMDs.”

You pathetic.

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> They have been operating secret prisons in Europe.

You a triple dumbass, fool. What makes you think Bush started them? You don’t think CLinton’s CIA had secret prisons. YOu so gullible, you’d buy dogshit off my shoe if I told you it was bubblegum.

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> They have ruined honest people who simply disagreed with their policies.

Wow, that’s specific. More ignorant whiny tripe.

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> They have alienated our allies and squandered more goodwill than most countries will ever have.

Oh no, the alienation of the allies, the squandering of the goodwill. Why don’t you just piss yourself in public. It’s less embarassing than this generalistic whininess.

“They’re gonna not like us and we’re gonna hurt their feelings.” Fuck you!

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> This is not the America that I grew up loving and respecting. We aren’t the good guys. We will be suffering the negative consequences of this administrations bellicose atrocities for generations to come.

That’s just too much. We’re not the good guys. What the fuck are you talking about? You think this a Jerry Bruckheimer film? You think it’s a comic book? You think it’s the A-team?

If we ain’t the good guys, you think the terrorists are the good guys? You think Sadamm fucking Bin Laden is the good guy? You think the guys kidnapping aid workers are the good guys.

If it ain’t us, why don’t you just tell me who the good guys are?

Your a piece a shit, fool. Our soldiers are the good guys. We’re the good guys. On our worst fucking day, we’re ten thousand times better than our enemies. If you don’t see it, I say go fucking help the good guys, whoever they think they are, instead of engaging in petty whining. Why don’t you be one of those guys setting off bombs in crowded cafes, you think they’re the good guys. You so blind and malicious and stupid you don’t even know right from wrong. You living in a fantasy world of hyperbole, and you and anybody who agrees with you deserves to get buttfucked by Bin Laden. Bend over and spread your cheeks, fool. I contempt your pathetic traitorous whining.

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> Using a couple of hot button wedge issues, thay have hijacked the loyalty of honest, religious, hard-working people by using religion as a weapon, dividing this country on false dilemmas.

Whine. Whine. WHine. And they applauding you?

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> Our once great countries world class democracy, once the envy of the world, has been turned into a warmongering theocracy, not one iota better than the warmongering theocracies we are currently occupying.

Fuck you. I say Fuck you again. You a disgusting motherfucker and anybody that agrees with you is worth nothing but opprobrium scorn and contempt?

We’re no better? That’s how you see it?

Fuck you. RRRRR!. You sicken me. I’ve eaten tofu burgers with more integrity than this lying shit. Get the fuck out of the country, you think we’re no better than Bin Laden. Fuck you!

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> Still, supposedly well-meaning people approve of all this shite simply because they were led to believe untruths put forth by this administration. As a reward for their loyalty, this administration sends their children off to die and their jobs overseas.

You ain’t smart enough to know what everybody else is thinking. I’ll tell you they reelected the cracker cuz they know you full of shit, and they don’t beleive you. You just a whining pessimist. I can’t imagine what it would be like to be so pathetic as to see the world through your eyes.

We’re fighting terrorism and freeing a people. I’m proud of my country and proud of our soldiers for what we’ve done. You and your party are the party of failure. You have tied your ascendancy to our countries failure. You’re counting on it. It ain’t happening, but that doesn’t stop you from pretending. The economies getting better. Iraq’a getting better. It’s all getting better. nobody beleives you, because it’s obvious you’re a pathetic liar.

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> It is incomprehensible to me that paying a few bucks less in taxes makes all this OK for you people. Go to hell.

I’ll see you there, fool! And when I do it’ll be heaven for me.  
-MR T.

Thank you MR. T. Good job.

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**Author:** ![Syntropy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/65b543/32.png) [@Syntropy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Syntropy)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2005, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republicans-are-swine-cunts/333481/103 "2005-12-02T00:00:54Z")

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Anyway…

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**Author:** ![marshmallow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/df705f/32.png) [@marshmallow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/marshmallow)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2005, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republicans-are-swine-cunts/333481/104 "2005-12-02T00:25:25Z")

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> [@HPL](#):
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> I give up: What’s working?
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> Iraq?
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> Torture?
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> Saddam’s WMD’s?
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> Bin Laden’s jail cell?
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> Running up an enormous deficiet instead of raisng taxes to pay for a “depeseratly needed” war?

This would matter in a normal Western nation with an educated and informed populace, but remember, this is the United States of America. Like I’ve said before, we’re a red country and it’s gonna stay like that for awhile. I don’t like it but you have to face reality. As long as the Republicans keep using the same tactics and overall strategy as during 2000/2004 I don’t see anything changing – we can only hope for someone competent.

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**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2005, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republicans-are-swine-cunts/333481/105 "2005-12-02T00:34:58Z")

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Well well, a thread with the Iraq war _and_ abortion being argued simultaneously. fun fun.

> [@Scylla](#):
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> You a triple dumbass, fool. What makes you think Bush started them? You don’t think CLinton’s CIA had secret prisons. YOu so gullible, you’d buy dogshit off my shoe if I told you it was bubblegum.

What kind of moronic logic is this?

Can we hold GW accountable for not _ending_ them?

What the fuck is with this “well X did it too” logic? Then X is _also_ an asshole!

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**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2005, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republicans-are-swine-cunts/333481/106 "2005-12-02T00:37:23Z")

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> [@mstay](#):
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> As long as the Republicans keep using the same tactics and overall strategy as during 2000/2004 I don’t see anything changing – we can only hope for someone competent.

I see something changing, our country going down the crapper.

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**Author:** ![lissener](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lissener/32/6139_2.png) [@lissener](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lissener)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2005, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republicans-are-swine-cunts/333481/107 "2005-12-02T00:50:22Z")

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> [@World Eater](#):
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> What the fuck is with this “well X did it too” logic? Then X is _also_ an asshole!

See my post #92.

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**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2005, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republicans-are-swine-cunts/333481/108 "2005-12-02T00:52:39Z")

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> [@lissener](#):
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> See my post #92.

Ah yes, I wholeheartedly agree.

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**Author:** ![The\_Hamster\_King](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8edcca/32.png) [@The\_Hamster\_King](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Hamster_King)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2005, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republicans-are-swine-cunts/333481/109 "2005-12-02T01:05:04Z")

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> [@Asylum](#):
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> What’s the difference between an embryo dying and a baby suffering crib death? Also, although it’s been awhile since I’ve been to church, since when were we supposed to understand all of God’s design anyways? Why does anyone have to die to go to heaven?
> 
> Also, I’m agnostic, so I don’t really have a dog in this fight. I just found that the logic used in that argument was sloppy.

I’m not trying to prove anything. I’m just pointing out that the rate of non-implanting eggs mixed with the theological reasoning used by many people in the anti-abortion movement leads to some very odd results.

1. Human life begins at conception.
2. Humans have eternal souls.
3. More than 25% of all eggs ever fertilized die before being implanted.

If 1, 2 & 3 are true then a substatial fraction of the population of the afterlife has experienced material existence only as a brief pre-conscious flicker. That’s a theological ramification that I’ve never considered before.

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2005, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republicans-are-swine-cunts/333481/110 "2005-12-02T01:40:22Z")

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> [@mstay](#):
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> This would matter in a normal Western nation with an educated and informed populace, but remember, this is the United States of America. Like I’ve said before, we’re a red country and it’s gonna stay like that for awhile. I don’t like it but you have to face reality. As long as the Republicans keep using the same tactics and overall strategy as during 2000/2004 I don’t see anything changing – we can only hope for someone competent.

[Joe McCarthy voice]Better dead than red.[/JMV]

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**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2005, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republicans-are-swine-cunts/333481/111 "2005-12-02T01:56:28Z")

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Hoo boy. Looks like Scylla’s out of a job, again.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2005, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republicans-are-swine-cunts/333481/112 "2005-12-02T02:13:56Z")

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Told him. “Don’t give up the day job”, I said. Gonna have to sell all those _Star Trek_ collectibles now. Tried to tell him.

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**Author:** ![duffer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/duffer/32/1026_2.png) [@duffer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/duffer)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2005, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republicans-are-swine-cunts/333481/113 "2005-12-02T02:33:55Z")

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In my head it was pure Mr T. I literally was able to picture him saying the words. His greatest role in years!

BTW, we’ve been hearing for years how Bush was the anti-Christ incranate (amusingly from many atheists) and would deliver America to Hell in a handbasket. Kinda like how the Religious Right said abortion and open homosexuality (let alone gay marriage) would lead us down the same path.

I’d say we’re doing pretty well. I don’t judge a country’s strength or health based on what other countries “think” or “feel” about them. I judge it on what they actually do in the world. Arbitrarily I’d have to set the number at 6 nations under military occupation (define it as you will) to be considered Warmongering. In addition, those 6 would have to be cases where it is wholly obvious to all (not just those that think it even when the count is zero) that the country is out to take over and enslave the populus for nefarious purposes. (That was 25% tongue-in-cheek)

Besides, isn’t the scope of world politics supposed to be cerebral instead of emotional? Maybe I’m wrong. Maybe we never really do leave high school. Maybe it is all a popularity contest.

Maybe everyone, left and right that say the Republic is falling apart 3 seconds after a change are really the same beast. Other than what the issue is and who’s fighting it, the result an rhetoric are the same. And again, now that information and debate occur simultaneously with no chance of being able to step back and review it before opinion is galvanized, enjoy these days everyone. It’s probable, IMO, that 10 years from now we’ll all seem pretty tame and thoughful in our debates of what happened this afternoon. By then people may see it as quaint to wait 2 hours to make Earth-shattering declarations of any given issue reported.

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**Author:** ![Squink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@Squink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squink)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2005, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republicans-are-swine-cunts/333481/114 "2005-12-02T02:50:37Z")

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> [@duffer](#):
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> Bush was the anti-Christ incranate

So definitely **not** [one of these:](http://tolweb.org/tree?group=Craniata)

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> The Craniata are characterized by a skull (initially cartilaginous and fibrous), which includes three types of sensory organs derived in ontogeny from ectodermal placodes; that is, thickened patches of the embryonic skin that sink inward toward the brain where they develop into sensory chambers. Anteriormost of these is the olfactory organ, which is initially unpaired, and becomes paired in the Vertebrata. Behind it are the paired eyes, the photoreceptors that develop as lateral outgrowths of the brain.

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**Author:** ![lonesome\_loser](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c68b51/32.png) [@lonesome\_loser](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lonesome_loser)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2005, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republicans-are-swine-cunts/333481/115 "2005-12-02T02:57:30Z")

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So if life begins at fertilization, can my wife and I claim a deduction each time it doesn’t take?

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**Author:** ![Cisco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ccd318/32.png) [@Cisco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cisco)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2005, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republicans-are-swine-cunts/333481/116 "2005-12-02T03:04:21Z")

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> [@Scylla](#):
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> Where do I sign to leave the Swinecunts and joing the party of tourette victims . . . and retards?

That’s a real fucking asshole comment, Scylla. You’re entitled to your own opinion, of course, but do you really have to insult Tourette sufferers and the mentally challenged while you’re puking it up?

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2005, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republicans-are-swine-cunts/333481/117 "2005-12-02T03:16:44Z")

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> [@Cisco](#):
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> That’s a real fucking asshole comment, Scylla. You’re entitled to your own opinion, of course, but do you really have to insult Tourette sufferers and the mentally challenged while you’re puking it up?

Don’t worry, he can’t afford to talk.

> [@Scylla](#):
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> CHOKEONATURDLEFTWINGCUTESYSEMANTICBITCH!!!

Another gem.

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**Author:** ![Twin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/85f322/32.png) [@Twin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Twin)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2005, 3:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republicans-are-swine-cunts/333481/118 "2005-12-02T03:35:03Z")

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> [@Cisco](#):
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> That’s a real fucking asshole comment, Scylla. You’re entitled to your own opinion, of course, but do you really have to insult Tourette sufferers and the mentally challenged while you’re puking it up?

Sure. Fuss at **Scylla** for bringing retards into it. But give **lissener** a pass when he accuses me of being a retard. I find that…interesting. Oh. Wait. Let me guess. You condemn **lissener** too, right?

BTW, **Scylla** , give Mr. T props for me.

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**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2005, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republicans-are-swine-cunts/333481/119 "2005-12-02T03:36:09Z")

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> [@Pochacco](#):
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> If 1, 2 & 3 are true then a substatial fraction of the population of the afterlife has experienced material existence only as a brief pre-conscious flicker. That’s a theological ramification that I’ve never considered before.

Hmmmmmm… If one believes in reincarnation, then could one posit that all those flicker-souls come back as gnats, midges and no-see-ums?

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**Author:** ![Scylla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a5b964/32.png) [@Scylla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scylla)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2005, 3:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republicans-are-swine-cunts/333481/120 "2005-12-02T03:49:24Z")

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> [@Cisco](#):
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> That’s a real fucking asshole comment, Scylla. You’re entitled to your own opinion, of course, but do you really have to insult Tourette sufferers and the mentally challenged while you’re puking it up?

Yeah. I forgot left-handed lesbians. Could you add that in, too?

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