# The Republicans have worse problems than the Democrats in the POTUS race. **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [September 3, 2015, 2:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republicans-have-worse-problems-than-the-democrats-in-the-potus-race/729812 "2015-09-03T14:12:21Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 5\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2015, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republicans-have-worse-problems-than-the-democrats-in-the-potus-race/729812/61 "2015-09-09T21:58:54Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > I mean to redo health care if the GOP was able to repeal it in 2017. And how do you think they’d do that, given the existence of the filibuster rule and the presidential veto? You’re not getting it. > [@](#): > > In the minority, sure. Democrats need conservatives to have majorities, which means they need conservatives to pass any new health care bill. Nope. And even if it were true, Obamacare is now part of the landscape, and no Democrat and no sane Republican would want to go back. > [@](#): > > I don’t favor single payer. It’s a silver lining to ACA repeal for your side, not mine. You’ve never actually said what you do favor, just that if it has a D on it, you oppose it. That is not worthy of any respect at all. ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2015, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republicans-have-worse-problems-than-the-democrats-in-the-potus-race/729812/62 "2015-09-09T22:01:54Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > And how do you think they’d do that, given the existence of the filibuster rule and the presidential veto? You’re not getting it. Budget reconciliation means that the bulk of it can be repealed with a simple majority vote and signature of President Kasich. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2015, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republicans-have-worse-problems-than-the-democrats-in-the-potus-race/729812/63 "2015-09-09T22:03:32Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > President Kasich. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![ITR\_champion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/c67d28/32.png) [@ITR\_champion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ITR_champion)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2015, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republicans-have-worse-problems-than-the-democrats-in-the-potus-race/729812/64 "2015-09-10T01:21:48Z")
> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#): > > I ask because I want to know on what planet 48.4% constitutes a “large majority.” That is, after all, your own cite’s number for the people who disapprove of the law. Among those with an opinion, a majority disapprove of the law. In the last three polls, the percent disapproving of the ACA is over 50%. But hey, if the Democrats want to repeat the “Obamacare, I never heard of it!” strategy that brought them total defeat in last year’s election, that’s their business. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2015, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republicans-have-worse-problems-than-the-democrats-in-the-potus-race/729812/65 "2015-09-10T02:39:09Z")
> [@ITR\_champion](#): > > Among those with an opinion, a majority disapprove of the law. In the last three polls, the percent disapproving of the ACA is over 50%. > > But hey, if the Democrats want to repeat the “Obamacare, I never heard of it!” strategy that brought them total defeat in last year’s election, that’s their business. Ok, this has gone far enough, the fact is that the disapproval does include more than a few from the left that do think that something better should be available, and besides the last presidential election the polls also show that a lot more do think that the plan should be modified or improved, not eliminated. It is that part, about most Americans thinking that it should not be eliminated, the part that is grossly ignored by many conservatives and then we get very dumb points like that one in the quote above. > **[Which is more unpopular: Obamacare or repealing Obamacare?](https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2014/apr/21/democratic-national-committee/which-more-unpopular-obamacare-or-repealing-obamac/)** > > Searching for painted eggs. Brunch with the family. Heading to church dressed in Sunday best. Debating health care. Mayb > [@](#): > > Elleithee says, “One thing that is much more unpopular than the Affordable Care Act is repealing the Affordable Care Act.” Polls support that idea: Generally speaking, more people are against the idea of repeal than the Affordable Care Act. > > But how much of a difference varies. Elleithee said repeal is “much more unpopular” than Obamacare. While one respectable poll (Kaiser Family Foundation) could make that case, others were less definitive. > > We rate the statement Mostly True. > **[Kaiser Health Tracking Poll: August 2015 | KFF](https://www.kff.org/health-costs/poll-finding/kaiser-health-tracking-poll-august-2015/)** > > With renewed discussion of the high cost of prescription drugs recently, the August Kaiser Health Tracking poll finds that most Americans feel that drug costs are unreasonable and that drug companies put profits before people. At the same time, the... > [@](#): > > Opinion about what Congress should do next when it comes to the law also has been fairly constant over time. Nearly 3 in 10 (28 percent) say they want Congress to expand what the law does, an identical share (28 percent) hope for a complete repeal of the law, and the remainder fall in the middle by saying they want Congress to continue implementing the law as it is (22 percent) or scale it back (12 percent). I do remember that in reality a lot of Republican politicians dodged a bullet when the supreme court voted in favor of the federal subsidies, many would had come forward to press those retrograde politicians to help the ones that would had lost insurance. The numbers that think that we should expand or keep the ACA points to the reality that it is the politicians that want to repeal it the ones that are in the minority. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republicans-have-worse-problems-than-the-democrats-in-the-potus-race/729812.md?page=3)