# The Republicans will say anything to hold onto power **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [October 23, 2018, 1:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republicans-will-say-anything-to-hold-onto-power/823382 "2018-10-23T13:16:07Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2018, 1:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republicans-will-say-anything-to-hold-onto-power/823382/1 "2018-10-23T13:16:07Z")
[Trump](https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1054351078328885248): > [@](#): > > Sadly, it looks like Mexico’s Police and Military are unable to stop the Caravan heading to the Southern Border of the United States. Criminals and unknown Middle Easterners are mixed in. I have alerted Border Patrol and Military that this is a National Emergy. [National Republican Congressional Committee](https://talkingpointsmemo.com/dc/following-trumps-lead-gop-leans-hard-into-culture-wars-in-closing-ads): > [@](#): > > Left-wing mobs paid to riot in the streets. Billionaire George Soros bankrolls the resistance — and [Dem House candidate] Dan Feehan > [@](#): > > The Congressional Leadership Fund, House Republicans’ top super PAC, released a radio ad in 10 right-leaning House districts Friday that ties local candidates to “the liberal mob,” accusing them of “trying to hijack our democracy and steal seats on the United States Supreme Court.” More than a little projection there, of course, but you get the idea. They’ll say any damn thing they want; they’re totally disconnected from reality. ---
**Author:** ![Bullitt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bullitt/32/5725_2.png) [@Bullitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bullitt)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2018, 1:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republicans-will-say-anything-to-hold-onto-power/823382/2 "2018-10-23T13:24:07Z")
Yes they will lie, cheat, steal, plunder your villages, and rape your women. Vote now! Vote early! Vote often! ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2018, 1:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republicans-will-say-anything-to-hold-onto-power/823382/3 "2018-10-23T13:32:33Z")
“Unknown middle easterners” Trump knows just how to scare his supporters. ---
**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2018, 1:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republicans-will-say-anything-to-hold-onto-power/823382/4 "2018-10-23T13:32:51Z")
They’ll [fake a tax cut](https://www.politico.com/story/2018/10/22/trump-new-tax-cut-midterms-925383) for the middle class, apparently. ---
**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2018, 1:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republicans-will-say-anything-to-hold-onto-power/823382/5 "2018-10-23T13:35:23Z")
> [@Fiveyearlurker](#): > > They’ll [fake a tax cut](https://www.politico.com/story/2018/10/22/trump-new-tax-cut-midterms-925383) for the middle class, apparently. Or [lie about instituting a state income tax](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=21281875#post21281875). ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2018, 1:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republicans-will-say-anything-to-hold-onto-power/823382/6 "2018-10-23T13:42:13Z")
Unknown Middle Easterner 1: How do we get to America? Unknown Middle Easterner 2: First, we travel to Honduras. Then, we walk! Evil laughter ensues. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2018, 1:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republicans-will-say-anything-to-hold-onto-power/823382/7 "2018-10-23T13:46:16Z")
I am shocked, **shocked** , to discover that a Republican would lie. Robespierre doesn’t look so bad these days. ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2018, 1:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republicans-will-say-anything-to-hold-onto-power/823382/8 "2018-10-23T13:47:23Z")
Nuts to dog whistles, they’ve moved up to bigot bullhorns. ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2018, 1:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republicans-will-say-anything-to-hold-onto-power/823382/9 "2018-10-23T13:51:23Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > I am shocked, **shocked** , to discover that a Republican would lie. Me no more than you, but the scale of it is so far beyond anything from the pre-Trump era. They no longer feel the need to have the lies be even an extremely elastic stretching of the truth: it’s totally into gonzo territory. It’s what they think they can get people to believe, whether there’s any remotely factual basis or not. ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2018, 1:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republicans-will-say-anything-to-hold-onto-power/823382/10 "2018-10-23T13:54:56Z")
You should see the anti-Gretchen Whitmer ads running in Michigan. She’s going to take over the healthcare industry, make your employer health insurance illegal, and double your taxes. Luckily her opponent, Bill Shuette, makes Dukakis look charismatic and will still win handily. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2018, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republicans-will-say-anything-to-hold-onto-power/823382/11 "2018-10-23T14:15:53Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > “Unknown middle easterners” They’re so unknown, they don’t even know they’re Middle Eastern. Scary shit! ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2018, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republicans-will-say-anything-to-hold-onto-power/823382/12 "2018-10-23T14:20:41Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#): > > You should see the anti-Gretchen Whitmer ads running in Michigan. She’s going to take over the healthcare industry, make your employer health insurance illegal, and double your taxes. Luckily her opponent, Bill Shuette, makes Dukakis look charismatic and will still win handily. I assume you mean that Whitmer will still will handily. Because this reads like you think Schutte will win handily. But nothing I’ve seen supports that. ---
**Author:** ![KidCharlemagne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ed8c4c/32.png) [@KidCharlemagne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KidCharlemagne)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2018, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republicans-will-say-anything-to-hold-onto-power/823382/13 "2018-10-23T14:33:50Z")
Yes they will say anything and to an extent I expect that of them. What I find absolutely appalling is the voter suppression because it subverts the very foundation of democracy. ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2018, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republicans-will-say-anything-to-hold-onto-power/823382/14 "2018-10-23T15:30:57Z")
> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#): > > I assume you mean that Whitmer will still will handily. Because this reads like you think Schutte will win handily. But nothing I’ve seen supports that. Yes, you are correct and I worded that very clumsily. She will beat him like a rented mule. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2018, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republicans-will-say-anything-to-hold-onto-power/823382/15 "2018-10-23T15:38:56Z")
> [@KidCharlemagne](#): > > Yes they will say anything and to an extent I expect that of them. What I find absolutely appalling is the voter suppression because it subverts the very foundation of democracy. The GOP doesn’t want democracy; they want control. ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2018, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republicans-will-say-anything-to-hold-onto-power/823382/16 "2018-10-23T15:56:39Z")
Then there’s [Rep. Lee Zeldin of New York](https://www.politicususa.com/2018/10/22/maddow-gop-tricking-democrats-elections.html), who sent mailers to voters in Democratic areas telling them an incorrect (and late) date to mail in their absentee ballots. Even worse, this is the same trick he pulled in 2016, at the time saying it was an error. Really, twice in a row? > [@](#): > > So you know, in 2016, you try to pull this off. You target Democratic-leaning voters in your district and you try to trick them into voting late so their votes won’t be counted, and you get caught and you say it was a mistake. ‘Oh, terribly sorry. We didn’t mean that at all.’ Then two years later, you pull the exact same trick. It’s almost honorable in its stick-to-it-iveness, right? But the one thing you can’t do when you try this for a second time, is you can’t once again say, ‘Oops, it’s a mistake, the exact same mistake we made last time.’ But that is how Republican congressman Lee Zeldin is trying to hold onto his seat in New York state in Congress. ---
**Author:** ![KidCharlemagne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ed8c4c/32.png) [@KidCharlemagne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KidCharlemagne)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2018, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republicans-will-say-anything-to-hold-onto-power/823382/17 "2018-10-23T16:52:31Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#): > > Then there’s [Rep. Lee Zeldin of New York](https://www.politicususa.com/2018/10/22/maddow-gop-tricking-democrats-elections.html), who sent mailers to voters in Democratic areas telling them an incorrect (and late) date to mail in their absentee ballots. Even worse, this is the same trick he pulled in 2016, at the time saying it was an error. Really, twice in a row? Just fricking wow. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2018, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republicans-will-say-anything-to-hold-onto-power/823382/18 "2018-10-23T17:57:37Z")
I received a text message from “Pres. Trump” yesterday notifying me that my vote had NOT yet been RECORDED on my state’s roster, and that he needs me to vote GOP. Which is strange, because I voted last Saturday. Also surprising was that the president has a phone number with a local area code. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2018, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republicans-will-say-anything-to-hold-onto-power/823382/19 "2018-10-23T18:00:53Z")
He’s calling from _inside the house!_ ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2018, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republicans-will-say-anything-to-hold-onto-power/823382/20 "2018-10-23T18:06:58Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#): > > Then there’s [Rep. Lee Zeldin of New York](https://www.politicususa.com/2018/10/22/maddow-gop-tricking-democrats-elections.html), who sent mailers to voters in Democratic areas telling them an incorrect (and late) date to mail in their absentee ballots. Even worse, this is the same trick he pulled in 2016, at the time saying it was an error. Really, twice in a row? Next election, look for [tollbooths](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=SbWg-mozGsU) in front of polling places… [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republicans-will-say-anything-to-hold-onto-power/823382.md?page=2)