# The Republicans will say anything to hold onto power

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republicans-will-say-anything-to-hold-onto-power/823382>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [October 23, 2018, 1:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republicans-will-say-anything-to-hold-onto-power/823382 "2018-10-23T13:16:07Z")\
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**Author:** ![E-DUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/e-dub/32/403_2.png) [@E-DUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-DUB)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2018, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republicans-will-say-anything-to-hold-onto-power/823382/21 "2018-10-23T19:11:37Z")

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Republicans running ads on black radio calling abortion a Democratic genocidal plot against blacks.

> **[GOP group's ad claims 'black genocide' linked to abortion rights](https://www.freep.com/story/news/politics/elections/2018/10/22/detroit-john-james-ad-black-genocide-debbie-stabenow/1727211002/)**
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> Ministers say a conservative group's ad for John James that calls Stabenow's support of abortion rights 'black genocide' is disgusting and incendiary

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**Author:** ![Richard\_Parker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/35a633/32.png) [@Richard\_Parker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Richard_Parker)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2018, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republicans-will-say-anything-to-hold-onto-power/823382/22 "2018-10-23T19:21:39Z")

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Cold civil war. The sooner Democrats realize that is what is happening, the sooner they can catch up in the arms race.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2018, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republicans-will-say-anything-to-hold-onto-power/823382/23 "2018-10-23T19:28:36Z")

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I just saw an ad here in Sacramento, not aimed at any particular candidate, but against EVERY Democrat. Democrats will raise taxes, they will give us open borders, they will take away your health care, and, worst of all, Nancy Pelosi will be back in power.

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**Author:** ![Doug\_K](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b5ac83/32.png) [@Doug\_K](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doug_K)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2018, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republicans-will-say-anything-to-hold-onto-power/823382/24 "2018-10-23T19:40:59Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> I just saw an ad here in Sacramento, not aimed at any particular candidate, but against EVERY Democrat. Democrats will raise taxes, they will give us open borders, they will take away your health care, and, worst of all, Nancy Pelosi will be back in power.

I’ve seen a TV ad here telling us not to vote for either party, they’re all crooks, but not saying who to vote for. In fact, it explicitly says it’s not promoting any candidate. For that matter I see a LOT of ads from both parties telling me who not to vote for, but not saying who to vote for or why.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2018, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republicans-will-say-anything-to-hold-onto-power/823382/25 "2018-10-23T19:52:05Z")

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The Republican candidate for Governor of Georgia, he of the “let’s do everything we can to keep black people from voting”, is running ads attacking his black Democratic opponent with the headline “she burned the flag.” You have to dig deep to find out that it was the Georgia state flag that she burned, several years ago, and it was the old state flag, not even the new one, the old one modeled on the Confederate battle flag.

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2018, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republicans-will-say-anything-to-hold-onto-power/823382/26 "2018-10-23T20:41:59Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> The Republican candidate for Governor of Georgia, he of the “let’s do everything we can to keep black people from voting”, is running ads attacking his black Democratic opponent with the headline “she burned the flag.” You have to dig deep to find out that it was the Georgia state flag that she burned, several years ago, and it was the old state flag, not even the new one, the old one modeled on the Confederate battle flag.

Oh I think he and everyone knows which flag they’re talking about, and they’re just as offended by the burning of that one as they would be if it had been Old Glory.

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**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2018, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republicans-will-say-anything-to-hold-onto-power/823382/27 "2018-10-23T20:42:06Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Democrats will raise taxes, they will give us open borders, they will take away your health care, and, worst of all, Nancy Pelosi will be back in power.

Did you see any false ads?

Regards,  
Shodan

😉

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2018, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republicans-will-say-anything-to-hold-onto-power/823382/28 "2018-10-23T20:44:19Z")

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> [@BobLibDem](#):
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> Then there’s [Rep. Lee Zeldin of New York](https://www.politicususa.com/2018/10/22/maddow-gop-tricking-democrats-elections.html), who sent mailers to voters in Democratic areas telling them an incorrect (and late) date to mail in their absentee ballots. Even worse, this is the same trick he pulled in 2016, at the time saying it was an error. Really, twice in a row?

This is not a new trick; the GOP has also been known to robocall and send mailers with false information about voting dates and locations.

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**Author:** ![RadioWave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/91b2a8/32.png) [@RadioWave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RadioWave)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2018, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republicans-will-say-anything-to-hold-onto-power/823382/29 "2018-10-23T21:37:40Z")

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> [@KidCharlemagne](#):
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> Just fricking wow.

That’s nothing. In Dodge City, KS, they opened two new meat packing facilities which turned the city 60% Hispanic. Suddenly, the Republican county clerk decided that the polling would be moved from the city center to outside the town limits, a mere one mile from the nearest bus stop. As if that wasn’t bad enough, that voting location will be expected to serve 13,000 voters, a tad higher than the statewide average of 1,200 voters per polling location.

The Kansas elections directory praised the city clerk’s efforts.

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**Author:** ![CaptMurdock](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/captmurdock/32/11736_2.png) [@CaptMurdock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CaptMurdock)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2018, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republicans-will-say-anything-to-hold-onto-power/823382/30 "2018-10-23T23:45:13Z")

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> [@RadioWave](#):
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> That’s nothing. In Dodge City, KS, they opened two new meat packing facilities which turned the city 60% Hispanic. Suddenly, the Republican county clerk decided that the polling would be moved from the city center to outside the town limits, a mere one mile from the nearest bus stop. As if that wasn’t bad enough, that voting location will be expected to serve 13,000 voters, a tad higher than the statewide average of 1,200 voters per polling location.
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> The Kansas elections directory praised the city clerk’s efforts.

[Lyft To The Rescue!](http://fortune.com/2018/10/22/lyft-voto-latino-gotv-dodge-city/)

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> Latino activist group Voto Latino announced that it was partnering with Lyft to help bring Dodge City voters to their new polling place. The organization announced the partnership in a tweet, writing, “#DodgeCity #Kansas, is a Latinx -majority city that has had it’s ONLY polling location moved outside of city limits w/out access by public transportation. So we’re partnering w @lyft to provide rides to the polls!”

Good try, Repubs. But not good enough. 🆒

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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2018, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republicans-will-say-anything-to-hold-onto-power/823382/31 "2018-10-24T01:14:08Z")

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> [@RadioWave](#):
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> That’s nothing. In Dodge City, KS, they opened two new meat packing facilities which turned the city 60% Hispanic. Suddenly, the Republican county clerk decided that the polling would be moved from the city center to outside the town limits, a mere one mile from the nearest bus stop. As if that wasn’t bad enough, that voting location will be expected to serve 13,000 voters, a tad higher than the statewide average of 1,200 voters per polling location.
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> The Kansas elections directory praised the city clerk’s efforts.

Underline mine. I work for county, not city government in Colorado, but that sounds illegal. I work closely with the County Clerk to make maps of polling locations.

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**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2018, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republicans-will-say-anything-to-hold-onto-power/823382/32 "2018-10-24T01:26:25Z")

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> [@RadioWave](#):
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> That’s nothing. In Dodge City, KS, they opened two new meat packing facilities which turned the city 60% Hispanic. Suddenly, the Republican county clerk decided that the polling would be moved from the city center to outside the town limits, a mere one mile from the nearest bus stop. As if that wasn’t bad enough, that voting location will be expected to serve 13,000 voters, a tad higher than the statewide average of 1,200 voters per polling location.

Actually, this may not be all bad. Dodge City has had only one polling place since 2002. The former lone voting location was located close to the country club, in the ‘white’ part of town. And Hispanic turnout in the 2014 election was just 17%.

[https://www.kansas.com/latest-news/article220286260.html](https://www.kansas.com/latest-news/article220286260.html)

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**Author:** ![BeepKillBeep](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9e8a1a/32.png) [@BeepKillBeep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BeepKillBeep)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2018, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republicans-will-say-anything-to-hold-onto-power/823382/33 "2018-10-24T01:29:29Z")

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> [@enipla](#):
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> Underline mine. I work for county, not city government in Colorado, but that sounds illegal. I work closely with the County Clerk to make maps of polling locations.

As if illegal would stop the Republicans. 😉

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2018, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republicans-will-say-anything-to-hold-onto-power/823382/34 "2018-10-24T01:48:09Z")

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> [@asahi](#):
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> Oh I think he and everyone knows which flag they’re talking about, and they’re just as offended by the burning of that one as they would be if it had been Old Glory.

Oh gosh no. Republicans are picking this up and running with it and without exception do not mention what flag it was until wayyyyy past the headline.

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**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2018, 6:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republicans-will-say-anything-to-hold-onto-power/823382/35 "2018-10-24T06:42:04Z")

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I’m curious if there are any Republican sources taking the party to task for their caravan conspiracy theories?

Anyone know?

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2018, 10:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republicans-will-say-anything-to-hold-onto-power/823382/36 "2018-10-24T10:40:40Z")

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> [@Sage\_Rat](#):
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> I’m curious if there are any Republican sources taking the party to task for their caravan conspiracy theories?
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> Anyone know?

I expect them to dodge the caravan issue.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2018, 11:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republicans-will-say-anything-to-hold-onto-power/823382/37 "2018-10-24T11:10:17Z")

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> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#):
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> I expect them to dodge the caravan issue.

Clever.

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**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2018, 11:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republicans-will-say-anything-to-hold-onto-power/823382/38 "2018-10-24T11:34:57Z")

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Yeah, he really rammed the point home

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2018, 11:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republicans-will-say-anything-to-hold-onto-power/823382/39 "2018-10-24T11:54:14Z")

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> [@RickJay](#):
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> Oh gosh no. Republicans are picking this up and running with it and without exception do not mention what flag it was until wayyyyy past the headline.

Southern Republicans can attack from both angles: desecration of the American flag, and desecration of the state (and usually confederate) flag. It’s a white Anglo, descendants of slave-owners apologist thing. And it’s very real.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2018, 1:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republicans-will-say-anything-to-hold-onto-power/823382/40 "2018-10-24T13:10:00Z")

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‘People will just believe you. You just tell them and they believe you.’ – Donald Trump to Billy Bush.

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